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    SBR_John
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    Here is every Betting System known to man

    Martingale System
    The most common approach to gambling systems is based on a martingale system model.
    Originally, martingale referred to a class of betting strategies popular in 18th
    century France. A martingale style system is one where you double your bet after a
    losing (or with some variations after a winning) hand i.e., a $5 bet is lost so the
    next bet made is $10. If that is lost the third bet made is for $20. If the third bet
    is won you win 20 and retain your bet, so have a total of $40. In this way you have
    essentially recouped your losses on the original $5 bet and the $10 bet. You've also
    made a $5 profit. This is the worst sytem ever imagined. It is particularly bad since
    a small losing streak will put the gambler up against the table limit of the casino.

    DAlembert System
    Introduced in the mid 1700s by Jean le Rond DAlembert. This is a progression system
    that helps win back losses in small steps instead of all at once like the Martingale.
    It was engineered for use on the even chance bets on a roulette table but can be used
    on any even chance bet. This system works on the theory that over time there will be
    an equal number of wins for both the player and the banker. If a player starts a session
    by placing one unit ($1, $5 or any other value) on the player to win, after a losing hand
    he will increase the subsequent bet by one unit and after a winning bet will decrease the
    next bet by one unit. So if he were betting on the player and the results were - loss,
    loss, loss, win, loss, win, win, loss, win, win, win - then the bets placed would be as
    follows (the numbers in brackets show the level of your bankroll after the spin):

    1 (-1), 2 (-3), 3 (-6), 4 (-2), 3 (-5), 4 (-1), 3 (+2), 2 (+0), 3 (+3), 2 (+5), 1 (+6)

    This sequence would close with a win of $6. As soon as the number of wins is equal to the
    number of losses plus one, then the sequence ends with a win. Also notice that after the 7th,
    9th and 10th spins the player was showing a profit, because the bets placed on winning spins
    are one unit greater than the previous losing spin. Having the possibility of a positive bankroll
    before the sequence is complete allows the player to cut the session short after a small win
    rather than risking the chance of the session ending badly. Although this system lessens the
    chances of losing your bankroll the possibility of this happening is still there. A long sequence
    of consecutive losses or a period of time where the banker wins more often than the player will
    soon put the system in a position where it becomes almost impossible to recover. As always the
    house edge works on every spin, and so increasing your bets will eventually increase your losses.

    Fibonacci System [pronounced fib-on-arch-ee or fee-bur-nutch-ee]
    The Fibonacci system is based on a mathematical sequence discovered by Leonardo Pisano, better
    known by his nickname Fibonacci. He was the son of Guilielmo and a member of the Bonacci family.
    It is based on a sequence of numbers where the next number in the sequence is the previous two
    numbers added together. It starts with 1, and continues like this:

    1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, 144, 233, 377, 610 etc

    In its basic form, a player begins with a 1-unit bet. He then keeps betting one unit until he
    loses, and then moves up one level after each loss, until he wins. After a win he backs up one
    level, and if he wins that bet as well, the run is completed and starts again at one unit.

    EXAMPLE: a progression of 4 losses and two wins (LLLLWW) would see the following bets placed (the
    numbers in brackets show the level of your bankroll after the hand):

    1, (-1), 1 (-2), 2 (-4), 3 (-7), 5 (-2), 3 (-1)

    Twice as many bets have been lost as have been won, but the player is still1 unit ahead, simply
    because he has won two bets in a row. In a similar series where the player does not win two in a
    row, but only 2 of 3 (LLLLWLW) he restarts the series, but this time out profit picture will be
    as follows:

    1, (-1), 1 (-2), 2 (-4), 3 (-7), 5 (-2), 3 (-5), 5 (0)

    In this instance, the 2 out of 3 wins at the end of the sequence have neutralized the progression,
    and the sequence starts again at 1 unit. And suppose we decided to play a 12-step Fibonacci, with
    our top bet being 144 units. Our total risk, which is the complete and utter loss of an entire series,
    is 376 units, or

    1 +1 +2 +3 +5 +8 +13 +21 +34 +55 +89 +144 = 376.

    He can lose eleven bets in a row, (LLLLLLLLLLLWLW), lose a total of 232 units in a row, then win 144,
    lose 89, win 144 for a total loss of 33 units, less than 10% of the player total bankroll. The problem
    with the Fibonacci is not safety, therefore, but the fact that approximately half of your wins will
    come at the very first level of 1 unit, making it an often tedious albeit profitable method. In order to
    counter the boredom, some players will begin their progression at the 4th or 5th level, and alternately
    move up or down as they win or lose, depending on their goals. To use the Fibonacci properly, a player
    must first memorize the progression, and then practice at home flipping a coin, until the bets are made
    automatically. It is a perfect system for all the even-chance games like Craps, Baccarat and Roulette,
    and can be easily modified into a money-management system for Blackjack and sports betting. It is also
    acknowledged as an excellent system for partners betting opposite each other. However, if you decide to
    employ this system, you will find fewer more powerful ways to win with as little risk.

    Labouchere System
    This system is also called the 'Cancellation' system. There are many variations. In its simplest form, A
    player writes down a series or a set of numbers; say, 1 2 3 4 5 6. The series can be short or long and not
    necessarily sequential such as 1 1 1 3 3 5 7. The choice of a particular series depends on the type of
    game you want to apply it to and the odds of the bet. Each number represents the amount in units or chips
    to bet. You bet the first and last of these numbers. In this example 1 and 6, which totals 7 units. If you
    win, you cross out the two numbers and bet the next two 'ends' (the outside numbers). In this instance 2
    and 5. If you win again you bet on the next two remaining numbers 3 and 4, and if you win that too, you
    would have made a 'coup' or completed one game. Then you start all over again. If you lose, then you add
    that one number to the end of the series. Say you lost your first bet of 7 units (1+ 6). Then you add number
    7 to the end of the series to look like this: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 and your next bet would be 8 units (1+ 7). If
    you won the first bet but lost the second 2 and 5, then the series of numbers would look like this: 2 3 4 5 7.
    If you work it out, you will see that when the series is completed or when you make a 'coup', there is always
    a profit. The negative side of this system is that you could end up betting large sums of money even if your
    initial bet is small.

    Oscar's Grind
    The system has the player bet one unit. If he wins, the sequence is over and a new one can be initiated. If
    the wager is lost, then the next bet will be the same size as the one just lost. Whenever a bet is won, the
    next stake is one unit larger, unless it causes the bettor to net more than one unit of profit for the sequence.
    At that point, just enough is wagered to net one unit if the bet wins. That's it!

    thanks to http://www.offshorepig.com/gamblingsystems.html?
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    Labouchere is my favourite

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    Never used any of them

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    Martingale is 100% full proof in any form of gambling if there are no house limits.

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    Thanks for posting. Haven't heard of any of these besides the Martingale before...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Martingale is 100% full proof in any form of gambling if there are no house limits.


    You'd need an infinite bankroll too.

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    i do oscar's sometimes. followed a few people who did the martingale a few yrs back at another site. it wasnt pretty

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Martingale is 100% full proof in any form of gambling if there are no house limits.
    ................and you have an infinate bankroll!
    Without that you will go bust eventually, thats a mathematical certainty.

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    nice thread SBR john

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    JJgoldale System

    In its basic form the system consists of a player starting with a zero balance in his spreadsheet. The goal is to progressively increase the balance in the negative by betting a daily random series of bets with a constant unit of $100. As the negative balance increases the player must take the 25% rebate profit on the progressive losses and use it for daily life expenses because when doing this system it is not permitted to work. The more you do this system the more money you make.
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    The only one I haven't heard of is the Fibonacci system, and it seems the MOST interesting out of these.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masu485 View Post
    The only one I haven't heard of is the Fibonacci system, and it seems the MOST interesting out of these.
    Never heard of this either.. But may give it a try.. I'll hit the SBR Casino in a lil while..

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    they forgot
    my lucky number system
    ask the hot girl who has no clue about sports who to bet on system...foolproof
    home dog who wins out right Monday night and are favs Sunday
    off the clover always bet over
    etc etc etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by odusmykal View Post
    Never heard of this either.. But may give it a try.. I'll hit the SBR Casino in a lil while..
    i almost never use the casino, but it seems like a nice place to try out some money management systems before you use them with real hard-earned money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masu485 View Post
    i almost never use the casino, but it seems like a nice place to try out some money management systems before you use them with real hard-earned money.
    My thoughts exactly Masu.. I'll try it with points before risking my real bankroll..

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    Good thread! may be able to find some situations to use a few of these in

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    one of those system can be used on most casino games if those casino games isnt fixed.

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    Walked out of casinos many nights with tons of cash in my hands thanks to Martingale system

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    i have watched a roulette wheel hit black 14 times in a row in a casino before with my own eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glitch View Post
    i have watched a roulette wheel hit black 14 times in a row in a casino before with my own eyes.
    I read about how the roulette profits for the Casino's increased with something like 30% after they installed the electronic display system showing the previous numbers. You stand no chance at roulette and I doubt there's any casino game someone can beat on the long run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glitch View Post
    i have watched a roulette wheel hit black 14 times in a row in a casino before with my own eyes.
    Yea... well I just wasn't there at the time martingaling

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sawyer View Post
    Labouchere is my favourite

    did you ever used?

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    Quote Originally Posted by maersksealand View Post
    I read about how the roulette profits for the Casino's increased with something like 30% after they installed the electronic display system showing the previous numbers. You stand no chance at roulette and I doubt there's any casino game someone can beat on the long run.
    yeah man i dont doubt that for a second. around the 7th or 8th black in a row, i walked 15 feet over to that table and put a stack down on red myself. knowing full-well that each spin and result is independant from the last. just in your mind youre automatically like "what are the chances...."

    im sure some people would do it multiple times when they look up at the screen and see 5 odds in a row or 5 reds or whatever. pretty interesting stuff...
    ........................................ ........................................ ............
    ps. there might be something to that fibonacci system.

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    anybody ever use martingale at blackjack?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Seer View Post
    anybody ever use martingale at blackjack?
    No but I have used Martingale playing the SEC for the last 5 years in the BCS championship.
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    Besides Martingale (cuz it sucks), does anyone here have any experience with any of these other ones? How do you get the best out of them with sportsbetting at the usual -110 odds?

    I'm trying to follow hot handicappers and want to maximize their hot streaks or prolonged hot runs and back off or back down when they cool off.

    Any thoughts would be appreciated.

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    Back in the 70's we ran the horse tracks daily. I put together a system which would be a combo from the original posting here. After working perfect on paper for couple years it was tried a couple times at track. Problem was simply that Man cannot work as a machine and I would vary, mostly after making a couple hits in a row. System works perfect and with very small bankroll but Man does not. If system could be put into program, thereby posting the needed bets and amounts exactly, system would have no boundaries. System bets 4 to 1 shots only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Martingale is 100% full proof in any form of gambling if there are no house limits.
    With no limits and an infinite bankroll, your guaranteed win yields a 0% return on investment.

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    This list is incomplete John. Omitted from this list are................

    The Flip System:
    Start with an ordinary "LUCKY" coin and designate a team to either side and flip. Do this for each game you are wagering on for any given day.

    The Prettiest Uniform System:
    We all know that if you dress for success then success will follow. This system requires you to wager on the team with a decided advantage uniform wise to the other team. Sammy attempted this method a while back but with not very good results.

    Fakers System:
    Most commonly used at SBR of all systems out there. Requires you to either print fake tickets, announce your play after games have started or simply post winners after the fact.

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    Fakers System:
    Most commonly used at SBR of all systems out there. Requires you to either print fake tickets, announce your play after games have started or simply post winners after the fact.



    i have noticed some very successful college hoops cappers with this system, after the fact seems to be the most profitable....some have yet to master it though and make the mistake of announcing there winning pick before the game is over (still hit at a nice clip though) and you always gotta remember to throw that 1 that lost in there to make it sound legit

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    A winner this time

    Quote Originally Posted by Masu485 View Post
    The only one I haven't heard of is the Fibonacci system, and it seems the MOST interesting out of these.
    I don't know if using it is profitable, but thom321 won 100 betpoints by knowing about it (see "stats betting" over at the think tank)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 135steward View Post
    I don't know if using it is profitable, but thom321 won 100 betpoints by knowing about it (see "stats betting" over at the think tank)
    quality

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    Martingale is used by ppl who desperatly need the feeling of winning a bit, and are ready to call it quits (or at least they think, ha) in the rare case it fails...

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    I use to martingale baccarat with 3 friends as partners 10 years ago. We would sit a min bac $25 tables. The max limit would be 2000.
    We could do 9 bets and be busted on the 10th. Once we won, we reset to $25. We could grind out 300-400 in a few hours.

    We never lost working together but one friend would always go bust playing alone.
    We got to 8 few times, but never 9 in a row.

    25, 50, 100, 200, 400, 800, 1600, 3200, 6400

    I cant sit there for more then 30 minutes without going crazy.

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