Why didn't Oregon let Auburn score with 1:55 to go?

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  • jgray
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    • 09-06-09
    • 3599

    #1
    Why didn't Oregon let Auburn score with 1:55 to go?
    Almost a full two minutes and the Oregon offense. I'd much rather take my chances that way than hoping the kicker misses a chippy.

    Just saying.
  • Double Bogey
    SBR MVP
    • 07-24-10
    • 1465

    #2
    That and why in the world would you call a timeout with 10 sec left when auburn was making a mistake not burning the entire clock?
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    • RonPaul2008
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      • 06-08-07
      • 6741

      #3
      I said the exact same thing at the time. After that moronic play where they got 40+ yards
      when everyone thought the play was dead they should have let them get a TD on the first play and have 90 seconds to tie it up.
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      • Jimmy0607
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        • 04-09-09
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        #4
        Good thought
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        • Maverick11
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          • 09-21-10
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          #5
          totally agree with that thought
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          • BettingGeek
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            • 10-07-10
            • 3555

            #6
            what if auburn just get first down and kneel?
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            • chico2663
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              • 09-02-10
              • 36915

              #7
              unbelievable. got crushed as usual
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              • BettingGeek
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                • 10-07-10
                • 3555

                #8
                instead of TD, lol
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                • SportsMushroom
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                  • 09-28-10
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                  #9
                  game didnt live up to expectations
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                  • ttwarrior1
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                    • 06-23-09
                    • 28441

                    #10
                    we should start our own semi pro football team.
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                    • dtp
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                      • 09-17-09
                      • 2106

                      #11
                      Might have been a good option if they would have thought of it.
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                      • griffey_mojo
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                        • 12-01-09
                        • 279

                        #12
                        Originally posted by jgray
                        Almost a full two minutes and the Oregon offense. I'd much rather take my chances that way than hoping the kicker misses a chippy.

                        Just saying.


                        I totally agree ... letting them score with 1:50 left was the play. I was thinking the same thing.

                        It's not point shaving either.
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                        • talnted
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                          • 02-11-09
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                          #13
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                          • biggamer3
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                            • 04-16-07
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                            #14
                            no, you let them score when they have it in the goal line, not when its gonna be a 40 yard kick
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                            • LVBOUND
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                              • 07-25-08
                              • 2658

                              #15
                              Originally posted by SportsMushroom
                              game didnt live up to expectations
                              The reason was 40 days off and shitty field conditions. Ncaa must fix this crap.
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                              • talnted
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                                • 02-11-09
                                • 1664

                                #16
                                Originally posted by SportsMushroom
                                game didnt live up to expectations
                                your right... it exceeded expectations..

                                helluva game to watch, a battle the whole way. loved it
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                                • Domestic
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 02-10-09
                                  • 6323

                                  #17
                                  Before we know it teams will start employing a "Clock management coach".
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                                  • warriorfan707
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                                    • 03-29-08
                                    • 13698

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Domestic
                                    Before we know it teams will start employing a "Clock management coach".
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                                    • sweethook
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                                      • 11-21-07
                                      • 12667

                                      #19
                                      was bad coaching in this game
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                                      • Mr. Jones
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 09-02-05
                                        • 942

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by ttwarrior1
                                        we should start our own semi pro football team.

                                        Played a little H.S. QB. Would consider taking a few snaps again only if JJ was my center.
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                                        • Regul8er
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                                          • 11-06-07
                                          • 10666

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by SportsMushroom
                                          game didnt live up to expectations
                                          Actually, I thought it was one of the best games I've ever watched. Excitement from beginning to end. Sure, a little bit sloppy, but the effort/speed/physicality more then made up for it.
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                                          • GoldenRichards
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                                            • 08-31-08
                                            • 314

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by biggamer3
                                            no, you let them score when they have it in the goal line, not when its gonna be a 40 yard kick
                                            This is what I was thinking.
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                                            • jgray
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                                              • 09-06-09
                                              • 3599

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by biggamer3
                                              no, you let them score when they have it in the goal line, not when its gonna be a 40 yard kick
                                              Normally, I agree with you. But Oregon poses a different circumstance. They have an incredibly explosive offense. They had just scored a touchdown. We can expect Auburn to play loose coverage/prevent for the first 30-40 yards to keep Oregon in front of them. They had 3 timeouts too.

                                              I guess the question comes down to this. The national championship game is on the line. If you are Kelly, do you want the ball needing to score to force OT or do you want to hope the other team misses a FG?
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                                              • sterling111
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                                                • 08-26-09
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                                                #24
                                                Easy answer...Chip Kelly is a trickster, not a real football coach. I really don't like to bash other Conferences, but he would never make it in any of the other strong Conferences in the nation. The only reason Oregon made it to this game is because of their scheduling of Powder Puff teams. I'll bet they are sore as hell this morning though...got manhandled.
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                                                • cadillac pete
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                                                  • 01-15-06
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                                                  #25
                                                  I was thinking the same thing, the Ducks only shot at staying alive was to allow a td, rather then have Auburn milk the clock and win with a normally reliable kicker. I know anything could happen with the kick, but the odds are he makes the kick 90% of the time.

                                                  The trouble is coaches never think outside of the box when it comes to that stuff. Auburn would never have been expecting an easy walk into the end zone like that, the runner would have just scored. And b/c of it being unsuspecting, the runner would never have thought to just lay down prior to reaching the end zone, which would skew the Ducks plans.
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                                                  • BetterBizness
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                                                    • 05-20-06
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                                                    #26
                                                    when was the last time you saw someone make the "right" play... that's way to "game theory" for most coaches and would be ridiculed if/when they lose... very few coaches know any more then what they were taught within the system of play...

                                                    on the other hand, the happy people were those that had Ducks 2H ... Didn't need out of the box thinking that's for sure...
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                                                    • jgray
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                                                      • 09-06-09
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by cadillac pete
                                                      I was thinking the same thing, the Ducks only shot at staying alive was to allow a td, rather then have Auburn milk the clock and win with a normally reliable kicker. I know anything could happen with the kick, but the odds are he makes the kick 90% of the time.

                                                      The trouble is coaches never think outside of the box when it comes to that stuff. Auburn would never have been expecting an easy walk into the end zone like that, the runner would have just scored. And b/c of it being unsuspecting, the runner would never have thought to just lay down prior to reaching the end zone, which would skew the Ducks plans.
                                                      But Kelly is a guy that often does the unconventional. Going for it on 4th down, 2 point conversions, fake punts, fake FGs. Letting them score seems to fit right in with his MO. Put another way, Bill Stewart is never letting them score.

                                                      In the end it comes down to math. The all-time leading scorer at Auburn has an 85-90% chance to make the kick from 30-35 yards out (I'm assuming they get 5-8 yards on the first three downs but are stopped short of a first down on third) vs. the Oregon offense scoring a TD in that spot. Personally, I think the chances of Oregon scoring a TD are better than 15%. Probably closer to 30-40%.
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                                                      • pokernut9999
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                                                        • 07-25-07
                                                        • 12757

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by sterling111
                                                        Easy answer...Chip Kelly is a trickster, not a real football coach. I really don't like to bash other Conferences, but he would never make it in any of the other strong Conferences in the nation. The only reason Oregon made it to this game is because of their scheduling of Powder Puff teams. I'll bet they are sore as hell this morning though...got manhandled.

                                                        Is that why they were crushed by 3 points

                                                        Stats were dead even with 2 minutes and change left in the game.
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                                                        • thadchr
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                                                          • 11-18-08
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Double Bogey
                                                          That and why in the world would you call a timeout with 10 sec left when auburn was making a mistake not burning the entire clock?
                                                          Wondered that as well...
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                                                          • crustyme
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                                                            • 09-29-10
                                                            • 16896

                                                            #30
                                                            packers coach did the same shit vs bears. asked why he didnt let them score he said the kicker might miss. one of the most accurate kickers is going to miss a chipshot? lol

                                                            this ranks right up there with not fouling up 3 in basketball as my biggest pet peeves.
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                                                            • beckluna
                                                              SBR Hustler
                                                              • 08-31-10
                                                              • 66

                                                              #31
                                                              never thought about it you r right man geez good stuff here brutha
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                                                              • tony_come
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                                                                • 03-31-10
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                                                                #32
                                                                Good point
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                                                                • sterling111
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                                                                  • 08-26-09
                                                                  • 406

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by pokernut9999
                                                                  Is that why they were crushed by 3 points

                                                                  Stats were dead even with 2 minutes and change left in the game.
                                                                  Oregon averages over 300 running ypg...they were held to 75 last night. Auburn put up 254. How is that Dead Even?
                                                                  Now on the passing front (also known as the Back Yard Football "everybody run a fly pattern" yards), they put up 365 compared to AU's 265.
                                                                  Nobody said they were crushed, but there is no question that they were out played, manhandled and outcoached. If Chipper wouldnt have gotten cute on every other series, they probably wouldve won the game. He's a trickster.
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                                                                  • SportsBettingPro
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                                                                    • 10-07-10
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Double Bogey
                                                                    That and why in the world would you call a timeout with 10 sec left when auburn was making a mistake not burning the entire clock?
                                                                    Because the clock was going to start and Auburn wasn't going to snap it until only a couple ticks remained.

                                                                    And yes, everyone is correct that letting them score would have given Oregon a slightly better chance to win mathmatically. However, coaches don't think that way. Someone did this sort of thing once in the super bowl and was ridiculed for it.
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                                                                    • wtt0315
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                                                                      • 01-18-07
                                                                      • 8037

                                                                      #35
                                                                      tcu would beat both of these guys
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