someone explain to me the basics of bonus scalping

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  • bobby heenan
    SBR MVP
    • 03-20-09
    • 4120

    #1
    someone explain to me the basics of bonus scalping
    been gambling for years....feel like im getting better and better as time goes by...learning alot more...just improving and winning now more consistently...but i never really got into the bonus scalping thing...was always more focused on just capping

    someone explain the basics...from what i understand...its pretty tough now in the us market with the limit on reliable books

    but what would i need to deposit in multiple books to make some decent money...and what kind of return could i expect?
  • milwaukee mike
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    • 08-22-07
    • 26914

    #2
    deposit $1000 in book a take 30% bonus = 1300
    deposit $1000 in book b take 20% bonus = 1200

    bet 1300 on nhl edmonton -145 book a 1300 to win 897
    bet 950 on columbus +135 book b 950 to win 1283

    up around 450, then reload with bonus on the side that loses and keep repeating
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    • milwaukee mike
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      • 08-22-07
      • 26914

      #3
      with a 5k bankroll you should easily be able to make 2k or so in a week using only a few books
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      • bobby heenan
        SBR MVP
        • 03-20-09
        • 4120

        #4
        Originally posted by milwaukee mike
        deposit $1000 in book a take 30% bonus = 1300
        deposit $1000 in book b take 20% bonus = 1200

        bet 1300 on nhl edmonton -145 book a 1300 to win 897
        bet 950 on columbus +135 book b 950 to win 1283

        up around 450, then reload with bonus on the side that loses and keep repeating

        bout as simple of an explanation as it gets

        thanks
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        • bobby heenan
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          • 03-20-09
          • 4120

          #5
          what books have good reload bonuses??
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          • milwaukee mike
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            • 08-22-07
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            #6
            call the books directly and ask what the max bonus you can get is with the highest rollover requirements. even if it's a 7x rollover you will lose it all before the rollover more often than not, and if not you are still getting bonuses on the other side.
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            • milwaukee mike
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              • 08-22-07
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              #7
              maybe for every $1000 you make you tip me some points? good karma all around that way
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              • baskets
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 11-24-11
                • 11691

                #8
                who is that poster who said he makes 15 to 20K a month as a pro? I'd like to get some of his strategies
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                • Sam Odom
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 10-30-05
                  • 58063

                  #9
                  In the old days I would've been more judicious in the Book a/b example

                  look of a scalp even if it's 2cents
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                  • bobby heenan
                    SBR MVP
                    • 03-20-09
                    • 4120

                    #10
                    Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                    maybe for every $1000 you make you tip me some points? good karma all around that way
                    most certainly will once i get this underway
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                    • bobby heenan
                      SBR MVP
                      • 03-20-09
                      • 4120

                      #11
                      how many books do i need? what ones are reliable...i have accounts at 5d...bodog..legends...bookmaker
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                      • milwaukee mike
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                        • 08-22-07
                        • 26914

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Sam Odom
                        In the old days I would've been more judicious in the Book a/b example

                        look of a scalp even if it's 2cents
                        yeah and it works much better during baseball season, you can usually find narrow spreads like book a +108 and book b -110.
                        but a larger bonus is almost always more important than a narrow line spread, also go for the bigger numbers like -190 +175, much easier to clear out a balance as long as the rollover says anything up to -200 counts.
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                        • milwaukee mike
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                          • 08-22-07
                          • 26914

                          #13
                          Originally posted by bobby heenan
                          how many books do i need? what ones are reliable...i have accounts at 5d...bodog..legends...bookmaker
                          anything b- or better is ultrasafe. i used to drop down to c-/d+ just to get bigger bonuses but i have a lot more risk tolerance than most. i was always rooting for the c- side to lose so i could get another big bonus and didn't have to worry about cashing out a big number.
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                          • SoCalFisher
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 01-22-09
                            • 769

                            #14
                            What makes this so difficult to do today?
                            Rollovers,limits,books in cahoots with each other.....only difficult in the U.S.???


                            5k bankroll making 2 k a week?....with how much time a day spent doing this?
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                            • bobby heenan
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                              • 03-20-09
                              • 4120

                              #15
                              mike...is there anyway...say tony from 5 dimes gives a call over to another book and finds out im playing the other side there....and these guys try to **** me?
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                              • Sam Odom
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 10-30-05
                                • 58063

                                #16
                                Originally posted by SoCalFisher

                                What makes this so difficult to do today?

                                Moving money & the lack of books, Used to have neteller and 10 books working together
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                                • bobby heenan
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 03-20-09
                                  • 4120

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Sam Odom
                                  Moving money & the lack of books
                                  yeah time consuming....

                                  im more worried that one of the managers will notice something fishy...and call around and find out im playing the other side at other books
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                                  • SoCalFisher
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 01-22-09
                                    • 769

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by bobby heenan
                                    yeah time consuming.... im more worried that one of the managers will notice something fishy...and call around and find out im playing the other side at other books
                                    And this is a no-no?
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                                    • SoCalFisher
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                                      • 01-22-09
                                      • 769

                                      #19
                                      I mean 2k a week..The phrase "time consuming" could be relevant.
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                                      • bobby heenan
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 03-20-09
                                        • 4120

                                        #20
                                        ya i hear you socal...why isnt everyone doing it
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                                        • milwaukee mike
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                                          • 08-22-07
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by bobby heenan
                                          yeah time consuming....

                                          im more worried that one of the managers will notice something fishy...and call around and find out im playing the other side at other books
                                          absolutely ZERO chance of this happening with $500-1000 bets. they don't care and books wouldn't give out your personal/betting info to other books.

                                          and even if that did happen you can bet against yourself all you want. no rule at any book says you can't unless you're a member of a conglomerate/syndicate doing it.
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                                          • SoCalFisher
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 01-22-09
                                            • 769

                                            #22
                                            Mike, ever come to socal????
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                                            • SoCalFisher
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                                              • 01-22-09
                                              • 769

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by bobby heenan
                                              ya i hear you socal...why isnt everyone doing it
                                              Right.
                                              Something makes it MUCH more difficult than it sounds, got to right?
                                              Maybe the movin money part?
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                                              • rfr3sh
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 11-07-09
                                                • 10229

                                                #24
                                                Its to hard for Americans because of moving money , you also have to factor in thr fees if there are any
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                                                • LVHerbie
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 09-15-05
                                                  • 6344

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by bobby heenan
                                                  bout as simple of an explanation as it gets

                                                  thanks
                                                  It WAS about as simple as Mike's explanation...

                                                  A couple things that aren't represented in the example is bonuses are much tighter then before, the industry as whole isn't as secure, and (especially if you are American) it is much harder to move money around...

                                                  Also ignored are things like with 5k roll you can going have to very selective in the size of your deposits and bonuses or you are going to end up with your whole roll on one site (hopefully one that is reputable) still facing rollover...
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                                                  • SoCalFisher
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 01-22-09
                                                    • 769

                                                    #26
                                                    Seems moving money is a major issue, since more than 1 mentioned it.

                                                    No offshore exp. here so I have to believe moving $ is difficult.
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                                                    • bobby heenan
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 03-20-09
                                                      • 4120

                                                      #27
                                                      what reliable books have good bonuses and reload bonuses?
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                                                      • Hoja Verdes
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 08-23-06
                                                        • 1403

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                                                        with a 5k bankroll you should easily be able to make 2k or so in a week using only a few books
                                                        Sorry, but that's simply unrealistic. MAYBE three years ago. If, hypothetically, you had a few reliable big-time locals in addition to plenty of money at matchbook, you could make close to that for a couple months before everyone figured out what you were doing and limited you. But with matchbook gone, and the infamous BetPhoenix 100% freeplays of 2009 now ancient history, bonus scalping just isn't worth the insane amount of time and risk required.
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                                                        • UntilTheNDofTimE
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 05-29-08
                                                          • 9283

                                                          #29
                                                          Mike what have you been smoking?

                                                          When you take any bonus above 10% it usually requires a 6-8x rollover so getting a 30% bonus you would need to find 10 cent lines at both books to scalp both sides and make a profit. Of course if you take the opener at 1 book and beat the closing line by 10 cents at another books that would increase profits but id assume were talking stale lines here.

                                                          I doubt theres any books offering 20%+ reload bonuses with 1x rollover. If this was the case wed all be rich.
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                                                          • milwaukee mike
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                                                            • 08-22-07
                                                            • 26914

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by UntilTheNDofTimE
                                                            Mike what have you been smoking?

                                                            When you take any bonus above 10% it usually requires a 6-8x rollover so getting a 30% bonus you would need to find 10 cent lines at both books to scalp both sides and make a profit. Of course if you take the opener at 1 book and beat the closing line by 10 cents at another books that would increase profits but id assume were talking stale lines here.

                                                            I doubt theres any books offering 20%+ reload bonuses with 1x rollover. If this was the case wed all be rich.
                                                            when you bet the whole amount on one game at both books you are done with one rollover immediately, on the side that loses.
                                                            bookmaker/dsi/youwager/legends will all give 20% cash if you ask so under my example it would be quite easy to make $400 a day with only 3 or 4 books. can't do it forever of course because once you build up and cash out at youwager then the bonuses stop from them.

                                                            you can almost always find hockey lines that are something like -160 at book a and +150 at book b, run the numbers.
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                                                            • milwaukee mike
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                                                              • 08-22-07
                                                              • 26914

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by SoCalFisher
                                                              Mike, ever come to socal????
                                                              yeah i was just in san diego. might go to the rose bowl.
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                                                              • usernametaken
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 02-08-11
                                                                • 514

                                                                #32
                                                                I live in Canada. Lets keep this thread going. It is interesting
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                                                                • BrianLaverty
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 07-02-07
                                                                  • 2183

                                                                  #33
                                                                  It was extremely easy to make money this way as recent as 2006.... 2011 and American? No fuckin way.
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                                                                  • ApricotSinner32
                                                                    Restricted User
                                                                    • 11-28-10
                                                                    • 10648

                                                                    #34
                                                                    You don't need to take a losing scalp... plenty of breakeven/profited scalps out there.
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                                                                    • LostBankroll
                                                                      Restricted User
                                                                      • 02-10-10
                                                                      • 4538

                                                                      #35
                                                                      This thread is both interesting and full of bullshit post. I still dont understand how one can make money doing this. Even the examples above are confusing as **** excuse me if Im the only one feeling this way.. Say for instance.....

                                                                      I deposit $1000 take 25% bonus from BI with 8xroll

                                                                      and

                                                                      1 deposit at BetOnline for $1000 take the 25% 8xroll

                                                                      1 side wins and other loses... But you still have to roll over 8x times how in the hell can you make money? Another depo and another bonus just to cover the one you have going on? I just dont get it... I get the basics but I dont understand how the $ are made with still having to complete a 8x roll...
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