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  • topgame85
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 03-30-08
    • 12325

    #1
    Will Sportsbook.com be worth using come football time? Debit card option......
    I saw someone asking about the debit card in another thread and did not believe it so I went to sportsbook to check it out and sure enough it appears they may actually be offering this, I also checked out the new withdrawal history section and I have not used them since '06 but sure enough it shows every withdrawal I ever made in 05'-06' listed on there, are they really just having processor issues or are they a scam shop and are they going to be worth using anytime soon?
  • durito
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 07-03-06
    • 13173

    #2
    Did they refund the $250,000 they stole during football season last year?

    What about the thousands they stole in years before that?

    If you are gonna play there, and there are a few reasons, play at betusa. But know that they may steal from you.
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    • topgame85
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 03-30-08
      • 12325

      #3
      There are reasons to play with them but not if they steal your funds..... I am just wondering if they are going to get the stuff straightened out and whether the problems are the processors really behind all the trouble, it looks like they may be trying to fix thing up and offer more options is this all a horse and pony show or are they really turning things around? I am going to continue using the A books here but I think I may throw a few bucks with SB just to see whether or not Jazette is going to make the neccesry changes and get back to where they were in 05-06 glory days back then they were solid as rock just looking back at my withdrawal history every thing was within 2-4 days
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      • durito
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 07-03-06
        • 13173

        #4
        They stole from people in 2005-2006. Just because they didn't steal from you does not mean they were solid.

        They have some +ev reasons to play there, but I have a comprehensive strategy and have taken into account the reasonable possibility that they stiff me when i play with places like that.

        Every jazette complaint that comes into sbr (and there have been thousands over the years) starts: "i played with sportsbook.com for 5 years and they always paid me in 2 days, then last week they stole my entire balance, help!"
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        • topgame85
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 03-30-08
          • 12325

          #5
          yah........ I don't get how the decide when or how to just go from paying you to robbing you they have the best domain in the industry if managed correctly they would be the most profitable book around hell even with the problems they still may be
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          • topgame85
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 03-30-08
            • 12325

            #6
            Hello, my name is Andy Slater. How may I help you today?
            You: Hello I have not played with you for several years due to reports of processing errors at forums and such but it looks like effort has been made to try and get things turned around and I was thinking about maybe giving y'all a try again so I had a few questions, is the debit card option available now or is it still in the works
            Andy Slater: Well our accounting department handles all that information, they will get in contact with you as soon you have a pending withdrawal.
            You: Well I can't have a pending withdrawal until I made a deposit and I don't plan on making a deposit unless I can have some type of information/assurance things are being put back in the right direction with this operation
            Andy Slater: Ok I am going to send a request to our withdrawal department for them to email you the withdrawal option that you will have available.


            This is not very reassuring, maybe just advertising the card to get sign ups? I will eagerly await their email and find out whats what with SB.com I really hope they correct the path and get back to doing things the right way for the benefit of the player as well as their buisiness
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            • Bread
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 03-16-08
              • 23726

              #7
              lol!!!!! TG that was hilarious. You probably threw them off with "y'all".

              Clueless. I have dealt with them and all correspondence goes this way. Clueless.

              I like Wally at The Greek.
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              • topgame85
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 03-30-08
                • 12325

                #8
                Haha I just get nostalgic sometimes since they were my first book and I like their setup and some of the promos, the facts though point more to them lieing to customers offering payout methods they have no real intention of using to get buzz and signups, when they email me I am going to request they send me a debit card and report back but I doubt they will ever even email me haha we will see
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                • frostno98
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 09-11-07
                  • 9769

                  #9
                  Many of us probably broke our online gambling virginity at either the sportsbook family or betus.
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                  • cinpls081
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 05-09-08
                    • 655

                    #10
                    you have to be kidding DO NOT PUT A DIME IN THIS PLACE. I'm owed a lot of money from 5 different jazzy co's DO NOT TOUCH THIS PLACE RIGHT NOW. What would make you want to play there?
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                    • JBC77
                      SBR MVP
                      • 03-23-07
                      • 3816

                      #11
                      Hell no, wouldn't send a dime to that pit of despair.
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                      • Justin7
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 07-31-06
                        • 8577

                        #12
                        Run away! Don't touch this book. Sure, you *might* get paid. Perhaps. Why sweat it? Stick to an A book, and you will sleep much better at night.

                        My definition of an A-rated book:
                        1. Financially sound
                        2. If things go badly, they'll do reverse back-flips to make sure you get paid in a reasonable manner.
                        Everything else is gravy. Nothing matters without these two.
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                        • HedgeHog
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 09-11-07
                          • 10128

                          #13
                          Many justify playing at SB due to a favorable risk vs reward formula. But SB's increased risk of stealing and not being able to pay is much too high. Sending them money knowing this is simply insane.
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                          • max_asdf
                            SBR MVP
                            • 07-22-08
                            • 1362

                            #14
                            waste of the best name for a sportsbook
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                            • ShamsWoof10
                              SBR MVP
                              • 11-15-06
                              • 4827

                              #15
                              Originally posted by durito
                              Did they refund the $250,000 they stole during football season last year?

                              What about the thousands they stole in years before that?
                              What years before that..? Can you be specific or are you just pulling things out of thin air...?

                              Originally posted by durito
                              Just because they didn't steal from you does not mean they were solid.
                              It does to me... I don't care about you guys so as long as they take care of me that's all I care about...

                              Originally posted by Justin7
                              Run away! Don't touch this book. Sure, you *might* get paid. Perhaps. Why sweat it? Stick to an A book, and you will sleep much better at night.
                              I got one word for you.. Bodog!
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                              • Pokerdogg
                                SBR Hustler
                                • 04-18-08
                                • 57

                                #16
                                Originally posted by ShamsWoof10
                                What years before that..? Can you be specific or are you just pulling things out of thin air...?



                                It does to me... I don't care about you guys so as long as they take care of me that's all I care about...



                                I got one word for you.. Bodog!
                                Shamswoof, do you have much money there, and are you getting paid with no hassle? If not, why are you sticking up for them?
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                                • ShamsWoof10
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 11-15-06
                                  • 4827

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Pokerdogg
                                  Shamswoof, do you have much money there, and are you getting paid with no hassle? If not, why are you sticking up for them?
                                  No not at the moment... I will be going back next week though for football... I do have a withdraw 6/2 pending though and as I said a zillion times which proves to be right AGAIN.. they are switching processors and when they get it straighten out things will be fine...

                                  It's VERY clear they are making changes which will be better in the long run and it has an effect... That's life... get over it people... You don't hear me throwing a fit like a 5 year old because my withdraw from June 2nd is not taken care of yet... I know it will be and I must not be broke like most of this board...

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                                  • Pokerdogg
                                    SBR Hustler
                                    • 04-18-08
                                    • 57

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by ShamsWoof10
                                    No not at the moment... I will be going back next week though for football... I do have a withdraw 6/2 pending though and as I said a zillion times which proves to be right AGAIN.. they are switching processors and when they get it straighten out things will be fine...

                                    It's VERY clear they are making changes which will be better in the long run and it has an effect... That's life... get over it people... You don't hear me throwing a fit like a 5 year old because my withdraw from June 2nd is not taken care of yet... I know it will be and I must not be broke like most of this board...

                                    LOL, if I only have one pending withdrawal and no balance in the book, I would be a lot more relaxed too. However, I will still think they have shitty customer service, and bad management. When you have more skin in the game, then we will see how you feel.

                                    Good luck in your football season, may be you will go on a hot streak and end up with $100k+ in the account, and then can't get the money out... I am sure you will still be singing their praise then.
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                                    • ShamsWoof10
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 11-15-06
                                      • 4827

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Pokerdogg
                                      LOL, if I only have one pending withdrawal and no balance in the book, I would be a lot more relaxed too. However, I will still think they have shitty customer service, and bad management. When you have more skin in the game, then we will see how you feel.

                                      Good luck in your football season, may be you will go on a hot streak and end up with $100k+ in the account, and then can't get the money out... I am sure you will still be singing their praise then.
                                      dude... why in f*ck would you think it makes a differance to me if it's 2,500 or 25,000..? I would sing the same tune unless I thought I was going to get stiffed... Don't act like your the only one that's ever had a big amount in there.... I have had as much as 15K in there over this winter and it came out as smooth as a wet d*ck out of a drippin' pussy... I had a big amount in there last year when the delay was even worse and didn't over react...

                                      I will tell everyone the samething I told them last year... Relax... because getting fired up will do NOTHING to get your money any faster and on top of that just wears on your mental health which is more important then money incase you people are so far gone from reality...

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                                      • Pokerdogg
                                        SBR Hustler
                                        • 04-18-08
                                        • 57

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by ShamsWoof10
                                        dude... why in f*ck would you think it makes a differance to me if it's 2,500 or 25,000..? I would sing the same tune unless I thought I was going to get stiffed... Don't act like your the only one that's ever had a big amount in there.... I have had as much as 15K in there over this winter and it came out as smooth as a wet d*ck out of a drippin' pussy... I had a big amount in there last year when the delay was even worse and didn't over react...

                                        I will tell everyone the samething I told them last year... Relax... because getting fired up will do NOTHING to get your money any faster and on top of that just wears on your mental health which is more important then money incase you people are so far gone from reality...


                                        You are just too cool...

                                        For the rest of us mere mortals, it makes a difference if I have $30000 instead of $2500 at risk. If I am worth billions, I wouldn't sweat it if I have $100k in there, but what if that is half of my assets? What if your entire bankroll is in there, will you sweat it? It is different for every individual, and it is presumtious of you to sound off like that. It just makes you look like an idiot and a jerk.

                                        And judging from your posts, your mental health is in tip top shape
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                                        • St.Aquinas
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 07-01-08
                                          • 264

                                          #21
                                          Sportsbook.com a good book turned bad, what a shame...
                                          I must complain the cards are ill shuffled till I have a good hand. ~Jonathan Swift
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                                          • topgame85
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 03-30-08
                                            • 12325

                                            #22
                                            Funny the guy yesterday told me he would have "accounting" send me an email which never came and now they told me this they are doing exactly what it seemed they were offering a withdrawal method that is not even available in order to get customers

                                            You: Are debit cards live now or in the works
                                            Adam Fischer: Please bear with me for a moment while I look into this...
                                            Adam Fischer: For the moment we can offer you *********** or courier check.
                                            You: Any idea when the cards will be available? You were the first book I used when I turned 18 and started betting but I read and posted at forums and saw you all were having severe processor payment issues, I was thinking about starting to use this site again but the book I am using now offer debit card payout and I saw you all made that an option and was hoping that it was available
                                            Adam Fischer: Will be, we are working on it, but for the moment we can only offer you these 2 options
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                                            • ico2525
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 07-30-08
                                              • 598

                                              #23
                                              I know it's so tempting to continue to use books you feel comfortable with, but don't make a deposit unless you don't care if it takes a month to get your money after you ask for it. I don't know how much time it'll take, but I'd say give it a week and see if then the debit card option is still available.

                                              Keep in mind Jazette's new processor now requires a copy of your ID, credit card (if you use one to make a deposit), and a utility bill. If the utilities aren't in your name, they'll accept a bank statement.

                                              It has been a hassle for all of us trying to get money out. I tried BetOnline.com, and they will Western Union or Moneygram you money. Unfortunately, those jackasses also require a copy of your ID and credit card (the one you used to make a deposit). They don't tell you that until the day after you ask to make a payment.

                                              Getting back to the original point - that debit card option would be great. It says $10k max. You'd have to pay probably $3-$4 in fees every time you try to withdraw from an ATM, but more importantly, you can just use it for gas and groceries or in my case depositing on PokerStars.
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                                              • frostno98
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 09-11-07
                                                • 9769

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by ico2525
                                                that debit card option would be great. It says $10k max. You'd have to pay probably $3-$4 in fees every time you try to withdraw from an ATM, but more importantly, you can just use it for gas and groceries or in my case depositing on PokerStars
                                                If you want the Debit Card option, you might as well post up at creditwagering. At least they're paying out, when last I heard. Or better yet, go with BetJam.

                                                Debit Cards are great to have because many takes only two days to hit your account. Getting a fedex check in 2-4 days and clearing up in your bank less than 5 days isn't bad either.
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                                                • DaChosen1FoSho
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 08-01-08
                                                  • 214

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by ico2525

                                                  Keep in mind Jazette's new processor now requires a copy of your ID, credit card (if you use one to make a deposit), and a utility bill.
                                                  I use a CC for deposit's...mainly for rewards points reasons and I was just asked for a copy of my id and utility bill. CC was not mentioned, and they said my "documents" have been approved and the check I have "pending" is now being processed. It will be interesting to see if anything in the future reguarding my CC comes up.
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                                                  • MonkeyF0cker
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 06-12-07
                                                    • 12144

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by ShamsWoof10
                                                    No not at the moment... I will be going back next week though for football... I do have a withdraw 6/2 pending though and as I said a zillion times which proves to be right AGAIN.. they are switching processors and when they get it straighten out things will be fine...

                                                    It's VERY clear they are making changes which will be better in the long run and it has an effect... That's life... get over it people... You don't hear me throwing a fit like a 5 year old because my withdraw from June 2nd is not taken care of yet... I know it will be and I must not be broke like most of this board...

                                                    Yeah they are certainly proactive about switching processors, aren't they? A poorly managed book may have this problem once, but to make the same mistake again is completely unacceptable. Not only have they fvcked with people's money with slow pays once again but they are (again) working on it at a snail's pace. Your withdrawal from June 2nd is probably worth about $50. That's why you're not complaining. And people who have larger amounts of capital ($25k+) should be concerned. Any time that you don't receive your money from ANYONE in a timely manner, it should be pause for concern. No matter what the excuse du jour is...
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                                                    • hinese
                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                      • 10-05-07
                                                      • 43

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by topgame85
                                                      Haha I just get nostalgic sometimes since they were my first book and I like their setup and some of the promos, the facts though point more to them lieing to customers offering payout methods they have no real intention of using to get buzz and signups, when they email me I am going to request they send me a debit card and report back but I doubt they will ever even email me haha we will see
                                                      I hear ya. I've been with them since 1998, so I'm kind of nostalgic too. It's been close to impossible to get money from them since around February. I've had a $2100 w/d outstanding since April. Supposedly they're going to send it ACH one of these days. They told me ACH, check, debit card and some online wallet service are the options now. I don't trust the wallet service, and it looks like you can only reuse the money at other casinos. I really hope this gets cleared up by football season. Last season, I was getting checks in 6-7 days.

                                                      Funny, I thought I was addicted to gambling, then all it took was not getting my money and I kicked the habit instantly. I'm hoping to get addicted again when football starts.
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                                                      • hinese
                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                        • 10-05-07
                                                        • 43

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by DaChosen1FoSho
                                                        I use a CC for deposit's...mainly for rewards points reasons and I was just asked for a copy of my id and utility bill. CC was not mentioned, and they said my "documents" have been approved and the check I have "pending" is now being processed. It will be interesting to see if anything in the future reguarding my CC comes up.
                                                        Same here, had to email them my ID and utility bill. Please let us know if you get paid. I'll do the same.
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                                                        • ico2525
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 07-30-08
                                                          • 598

                                                          #29
                                                          I'll let you know when I get paid, but I doubt it'll be any time soon. It'll probably be 1 day before the 3 week mark. I guess that because of this that was said in a recent e-mail.

                                                          I am pleased to inform you that your withdrawal verification process is now complete and your withdrawals will be processed accordingly in the future.

                                                          We have been in contact with our withdrawals department and they have confirmed that your withdrawal has now been approved and added to the queue for processing. You will be contacted with confirmation once this has been sent. General processing times are approximately 3-5 weeks.
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                                                          • Cantlooz
                                                            SBR Rookie
                                                            • 08-04-08
                                                            • 10

                                                            #30
                                                            I requested a withdrawl with that Debit card option

                                                            Originally posted by topgame85
                                                            Funny the guy yesterday told me he would have "accounting" send me an email which never came and now they told me this they are doing exactly what it seemed they were offering a withdrawal method that is not even available in order to get customers

                                                            You: Are debit cards live now or in the works
                                                            Adam Fischer: Please bear with me for a moment while I look into this...
                                                            Adam Fischer: For the moment we can offer you *********** or courier check.
                                                            You: Any idea when the cards will be available? You were the first book I used when I turned 18 and started betting but I read and posted at forums and saw you all were having severe processor payment issues, I was thinking about starting to use this site again but the book I am using now offer debit card payout and I saw you all made that an option and was hoping that it was available
                                                            Adam Fischer: Will be, we are working on it, but for the moment we can only offer you these 2 options
                                                            I requested a withdrawl of 2k with that debit card transaction on 7/25. They stated that I should recieve a card within 7-10 business days. It is currently the 6th business day. If what they said was true, I should recieve my card between tommorrow and friday. I called them yesterday and asked what the status was. They stated to me that I should recieve it within the week. Along with the card, they said that I will have to fill out the form that will come along with it. I will let you know the within the week.
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                                                            • ico2525
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 07-30-08
                                                              • 598

                                                              #31
                                                              Cantlooz, can you please post your correspondence regarding the debit card? They tell me that it'll take 3-5 weeks (starting this week) to receive my wire. They have told others this of course. If it means I'll get my $ in 2 weeks, I'd take the debit card.

                                                              I appreciate the help.
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                                                              • Cantlooz
                                                                SBR Rookie
                                                                • 08-04-08
                                                                • 10

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by ShamsWoof10
                                                                dude... why in f*ck would you think it makes a differance to me if it's 2,500 or 25,000..? I would sing the same tune unless I thought I was going to get stiffed... Don't act like your the only one that's ever had a big amount in there.... I have had as much as 15K in there over this winter and it came out as smooth as a wet d*ck out of a drippin' pussy... I had a big amount in there last year when the delay was even worse and didn't over react...

                                                                I will tell everyone the samething I told them last year... Relax... because getting fired up will do NOTHING to get your money any faster and on top of that just wears on your mental health which is more important then money incase you people are so far gone from reality...

                                                                I am in ALLSTAR.COM the same company that runs sportsbook. I have never had a problem recieving my funds in the past. At around April, I withdrew $1500. It was successfully put into my bank account. Then on May I withdrew $870 and recieved a check by zippayment an appearent processor based in Las Vegas. When I had tried to deposit it, it bounced. It freaked me out as I have a 3k balance in the account. So I called them up and they told me that they were haveing issues with the current processor and that they will try to get it resolved within the month. They told me to send a copy of the bounced check so that I could have that money back in the account. A couple days later, my account was reimbursed. Now I had checked my withdrawl options around 7/20, so I called customer service and they stated to me at that time that the Debit Card option is really not ready option yet and that it should be ready in about a couple weeks. 5 days later, I got impatient only to try out that option without calling them again to see what would happen.

                                                                Yesterday, I decided to Google some sportsbook issues useing some key words that may help me understand with what is going on. Come to find out, I ran into news that the FEDS have seized some funds of about $9 million from Zippayments. The seizure was mostly about BODOG, but I believe it did say that other sportsbook sites were involved, but BODOG mostly talked about. So as far as the fool that said he wouldnt worry about not being paid...think twice and dont be a fool! Its all over on GOOGLE. Look it up. (BODOG seizure) Read the articles. NO JOKE! Tell me what you guys think of it.

                                                                Hey Shamswoof...you seem like the type that would go all-in and put your money on the odds of this not happening. No wonder why your not worried. You must have next to nothing in your account. Try and sing that tune!
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                                                                • ico2525
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 07-30-08
                                                                  • 598

                                                                  #33
                                                                  So you just clicked the option when it was available? I hate to keep contacting customer service because I'm sure that hurts my chances of getting my money faster. I'll see if I get anywhere. Do you think I could get your user name on sportsbook.com?
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                                                                  • SBR_John
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 07-12-05
                                                                    • 16471

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Will Sportsbook.com be worth using come football time?
                                                                    I heard through the grapevine they are going to have huge processing problems come football, as if they didnt already. At D- I wouldnt waste my time with this outfit.
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                                                                    • bettilimbroke999
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 02-04-08
                                                                      • 13254

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Everyone knows sportsbook had more bonus whores than any site in history in their heyday, hell with all the promos/bonus, withdraw and refill a dime would get ya a free 50 bucks, it was heaven. Times changed, now they are in Betus league, theyll make you pay for your nostalgia if you are dumb enough to deposit into that scambook. If you are really wanting fast debit card payouts, stick with creditwagering.
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