Why Do People Make Sports Gambling So Difficult???

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  • brahmabull117
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 11-08-10
    • 8622

    #1
    Why Do People Make Sports Gambling So Difficult???
    I hear all this sht about variance and distribution, whatever the fck that nonsense is




    all sports gambling comes down to is outsmarting the public. Vegas doesn't set lines based on what they believe is gonna happen, vegas sets lines based on what the public believes is gonna happen. If you can outsmart the average bettor (which is very easy to do) you can make a ton of money in gambling



    and by outsmarting the public, it basically means that u continuously find teams and matchups that are severely overvalued or undervalued by the public and you exploit those situations. That's how you make money in sports gambling, not by any gay "system", not by following some phony "expert" and not by worrying about money line movements or variance



    you make money by evaluating teams and matchups and finding ways to exploit the system by outsmarting the public
  • Br0nxer
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 03-25-11
    • 13665

    #2
    thank god you have it figured out

    finally someone has the answers

    call me
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    • onetrickpony
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 08-23-10
      • 9434

      #3
      im trying to go all in 8 times with starting bankroll of 200 usd

      help me
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      • RollPlayer
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 07-26-10
        • 779

        #4
        No, the way to make money is to make bets that are +EV, plain and simple. It takes some math and some brains, but it is the only way to win in the long run. The public has nothing to do with it, only the line and your own calculation of the bet's chances
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        • unfukkinreal
          Restricted User
          • 07-30-11
          • 60

          #5
          You keep thinking that and you will have abroke Dick.
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          • brahmabull117
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 11-08-10
            • 8622

            #6
            Originally posted by RollPlayer
            No, the way to make money is to make bets that are +EV, plain and simple. It takes some math and some brains, but it is the only way to win in the long run. The public has nothing to do with it, only the line and your own calculation of the bet's chances
            nonsense


            I absolutely dominated the NBA playoffs and I'm dominating MLB right now simply because I look at the lines and the team's actual performance, and I try to find the biggest difference between perception and reality (in terms of how valued a team is vs how they perform)



            read the last thread I made about the brewers, easy 1000 dollars today with them blowing out the astros. I'm likely gonna play the yankees tomorrow and watch them blow baltimore out of the water again
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            • Br0nxer
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 03-25-11
              • 13665

              #7
              Originally posted by onetrickpony
              im trying to go all in 8 times with starting bankroll of 200 usd

              help me
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              • k13
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 07-16-10
                • 18053

                #8
                Perception, line movement, steam, etc.

                You don't even need to look at the teams.
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                • dante1
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 10-31-05
                  • 38647

                  #9
                  Are you 14 or 15 years of age?
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                  • brahmabull117
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 11-08-10
                    • 8622

                    #10
                    Originally posted by k13
                    Perception, line movement, steam, etc. You don't even need to look at the teams.

                    line movements are complete sht



                    you want to make money long term?? understand the sports and make your decisions based on logical analysis of the matchups



                    You people are talking to me as if I'm an alien from outerspace for telling you that a high level of logical analysis and knowledge of the sport is the best way to make a lot of money in sports gambling
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                    • RollPlayer
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 07-26-10
                      • 779

                      #11
                      Go post this thread in the thinktank and get educated
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                      • brahmabull117
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 11-08-10
                        • 8622

                        #12
                        Originally posted by RollPlayer
                        Go post this thread in the thinktank and get educated


                        LOL @ Me "getting educated"



                        99% of the people on this site are complete scrubs who make very little to no money betting. Why?? Becuase they rely on gimmicky sht like line movements, instead of actually understanding how the sport works and analyzing teams/matchups to pick out profitable bets



                        I'm gonna post a thread in the MLB forum with my daily picks, watch me cover like 60+% consistently
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                        • Br0nxer
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 03-25-11
                          • 13665

                          #13
                          Originally posted by brahmabull117
                          LOL @ Me "getting educated"



                          99% of the people on this site are complete scrubs who make very little to no money betting. Why?? Becuase they rely on gimmicky sht like line movements, instead of actually understanding how the sport works and analyzing teams/matchups to pick out profitable bets



                          I'm gonna post a thread in the MLB forum with my daily picks, watch me cover like 60+% consistently
                          GTFO of here

                          nerds hang out in the think tank

                          and i guarantee you couldnt even hit 47% for a full season of any sport

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                          • ACoochy
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 08-19-09
                            • 13949

                            #14
                            Originally posted by brahmabull117
                            I hear all this sht about variance and distribution, whatever the fck that nonsense is all sports gambling comes down to is outsmarting the public. Vegas doesn't set lines based on what they believe is gonna happen, vegas sets lines based on what the public believes is gonna happen. If you can outsmart the average bettor (which is very easy to do) you can make a ton of money in gambling and by outsmarting the public, it basically means that u continuously find teams and matchups that are severely overvalued or undervalued by the public and you exploit those situations. That's how you make money in sports gambling, not by any gay "system", not by following some phony "expert" and not by worrying about money line movements or variance you make money by evaluating teams and matchups and finding ways to exploit the system by outsmarting the public
                            Non-Pro...Brags about being able to beat books yet cant afford $200....Only at SBR...Unreal
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                            • Br0nxer
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 03-25-11
                              • 13665

                              #15
                              Originally posted by ACoochy
                              Non-Pro...Brags about being able to beat books yet cant afford $200....Only at SBR...Unreal
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                              • jjgold
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 07-20-05
                                • 388189

                                #16
                                That public thing is so silly
                                means nothing
                                no one knows who public is
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                                • k13
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 07-16-10
                                  • 18053

                                  #17
                                  Fade Losers Like You.
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                                  • SportsMushroom
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 09-28-10
                                    • 4177

                                    #18
                                    I like this guy
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                                    • Delicious
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 04-26-11
                                      • 1006

                                      #19
                                      For some reason he needs us to validate his magical winning formula? The guy has had a few beers, won some money on the brewers and now is a superstar capper in his own eyes.
                                      Good job bub. keep picking winners
                                      Last edited by Delicious; 07-30-11, 09:01 PM.
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                                      • JohnnyD4916
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 04-14-10
                                        • 1572

                                        #20
                                        Post your plays I want to make millions
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                                        • Sunde91
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 11-26-09
                                          • 8325

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by dante1
                                          Are you 14 or 15 years of age?
                                          Originally posted by jjgold
                                          That public thing is so silly means nothing no one knows who public is


                                          these simpleton clowns auto-fading public will get destroyed

                                          and very often is the case they are some kid betting for a few months who discovered this idea of "the public" and RLM when they came to SBR and they went on some 25-10 streak so now they have it all figured out

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                                          • stevenash
                                            Moderator
                                            • 01-17-11
                                            • 65174

                                            #22
                                            Don't over think the line.
                                            If you break down a game, and you like the price, bet it.
                                            Simple.
                                            I repeat, don't over think the line, I've seen so many people talk them self out of a winning wager because they say " I like Boston, but the line is too low, something must be up..." and lay off, only to watch Boston win.
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                                            • blackbox
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 02-28-08
                                              • 1415

                                              #23
                                              Sometimes people overload themselves with too much information-and always look at only one side of a game-look at both sides of every game.
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                                              • Bluehorseshoe
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 07-13-06
                                                • 14983

                                                #24
                                                Understanding the true line movement is the key. (and not having an opinion on a game)
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                                                • wtf
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 08-22-08
                                                  • 12983

                                                  #25
                                                  lol at the think tank

                                                  i remember about a year ago the fukin king of smart asses and self proclaimed king of the think tank-monkeyfokr could not even go 50% on a free shot with rebate wager , I think it was over a 100 games

                                                  a bunch of clowns over thinking a coin toss
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                                                  • lakerboy
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 04-02-09
                                                    • 94365

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by stevenash
                                                    Don't over think the line.
                                                    If you break down a game, and you like the price, bet it.
                                                    Simple.
                                                    I repeat, don't over think the line, I've seen so many people talk them self out of a winning wager because they say " I like Boston, but the line is too low, something must be up..." and lay off, only to watch Boston win.


                                                    And so many people look at that same line and say boston is a bargain and end up losing. It works both. Ways pal.
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                                                    • Vegas_bond
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 12-09-09
                                                      • 624

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by brahmabull117
                                                      that nonsense is




                                                      all sports gambling comes down to is outsmarting the public. Vegas doesn't set lines based on what they believe is gonna happen, vegas sets lines based on what the public believes is gonna happen.
                                                      I dont agree with you. Vegas needs to make efficient lines.

                                                      Otherwise, they would get crushed by the many,many sharps in town.

                                                      Take a look at the NFL lines, for example.
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                                                      • sjm5122
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 09-22-08
                                                        • 4213

                                                        #28
                                                        Haha line movement doesn't mean anything? Good luck betting NBA long term with that mindset
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                                                        • brahmabull117
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 11-08-10
                                                          • 8622

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Vegas_bond
                                                          I dont agree with you. Vegas needs to make efficient lines. Otherwise, they would get crushed by the many,many sharps in town. Take a look at the NFL lines, for example.


                                                          they do get crushed by sharps (IE smart gamblers)



                                                          the difference is they make a ton of money because 95% of gamblers are retards
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                                                          • Albert Pujols
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 06-01-10
                                                            • 1670

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by brahmabull117
                                                            I hear all this sht about variance and distribution, whatever the fck that nonsense is




                                                            all sports gambling comes down to is outsmarting the public. Vegas doesn't set lines based on what they believe is gonna happen, vegas sets lines based on what the public believes is gonna happen. If you can outsmart the average bettor (which is very easy to do) you can make a ton of money in gambling



                                                            and by outsmarting the public, it basically means that u continuously find teams and matchups that are severely overvalued or undervalued by the public and you exploit those situations. That's how you make money in sports gambling, not by any gay "system", not by following some phony "expert" and not by worrying about money line movements or variance



                                                            you make money by evaluating teams and matchups and finding ways to exploit the system by outsmarting the public
                                                            STFU. You have no clue what you're talking about. Newbie.
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                                                            • Inspirited
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 06-26-10
                                                              • 1787

                                                              #31
                                                              i thought this might be an interesting thread to read and then I noticed that it was a brahmabull thread. too bad
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                                                              • brahmabull117
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 11-08-10
                                                                • 8622

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Inspirited
                                                                i thought this might be an interesting thread to read and then I noticed that it was a brahmabull thread. too bad

                                                                I just started betting baseball for first time ever - I'm already 2-0 after finishing the NBA playoffs with like a 75% winning percentage (I will be 3-0 after cards beat cubs today)



                                                                when are you morons gonna understand that I'm the real deal?
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                                                                • Albert Pujols
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 06-01-10
                                                                  • 1670

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by brahmabull117
                                                                  I just started betting baseball for first time ever - I'm already 2-0 after finishing the NBA playoffs with like a 75% winning percentage (I will be 3-0 after cards beat cubs today)



                                                                  when are you morons gonna understand that I'm the real deal?
                                                                  Congrats on being a great capper after betting two -200 favs and winning them.
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                                                                  • wantitall4moi
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 04-17-10
                                                                    • 3063

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Its all tout speak.

                                                                    before the internet, the touts sold "inside info" on their infomercials. Then when peopel got smart to that scam, they sold handicapping and ability to figure out which team had an edge based on thousands of games worth of data.

                                                                    Then when guys all got the same data touts had to change their approach again. Then it was back to inside info. Which as it turned out was pretty factual considering how many schools were cheating. At least in the NCAA stuff. But they still couldnt win consistently enough for people.

                                                                    So then they took their math and started selling varience, using the odds and changes to predict what guys were betting what way and then they evolved that into the so called originators versus steam chasers versus stale numbers guys. And that spawned its own genre of touts and forum warriors.

                                                                    The only way to make money consistently betting sports is to play both sides with an edge, which right now is nearly impossible. You can try and beat it betting one side but to do that you have to pretty much get the very best number every single bet you make, which is almost as impossible as picking the right side in the first place.

                                                                    Baseball is the easiest sport to make money at (aside from maybe WNBA, but the limits in the WNBA are so ridiculous that it is laughable) but at least in bases you can roll a few bucks over a couple times and make something somewhere near respectable in the 9 months you have. But once football starts guys will piss it all back again because the NFL is basically the biggest sucker season ever thought of. Yet guys think it is somehow their answer to riches. Pretty much the only way to make money in the NFL is to bet maybe 10-15 games a season for massive amounts and hope you go 90%. Trying to grind it out with so few games is a joke, and the so called variances and edges are meaningless with that few games played. by the time you think you have it figured out the season is over.

                                                                    But it is the big time sports betting sport so it isnt a secret it is also the one where the books clean up and they actually start getting enough post ups to pay back the guys they have been slow paying all summer.
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                                                                    • ShogunRua
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 12-23-09
                                                                      • 4668

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Inspirited
                                                                      i thought this might be an interesting thread to read and then I noticed that it was a brahmabull thread. too bad
                                                                      this.

                                                                      Brahma might be the most clueless 'capper' on here.
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