he told doyle to pay him, "you will give me my money"
on tape
on tape
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"you will have my money doyle"
-Ivey
I have your money Phil
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Will be interesting how many players will play the WSOP....The pros would be nuts to wear Full Tilt gear.Comment -
The odds of Howard Lederer getting knocked off is far greater, from what I understand he and Ray Bitar (whoever the hell he is) basically ran tiltware which was in charge of players funds. Phil Ivey had nothing to do with players being stiffed or not he was just a billboard for the site but you're right somebody with 200k online and only 10k in their "real" bank account might take a shot at Ivey after they get foreclosed on their home and are living under an overpass after putting "online poker pro" as their job description on a resume doesnt land them a job outside of McDsComment -
Not a terrible PR move by Phil, probably will win him more favor than just staying silent. And now at least he has a pre-canned explanation for not showing up at the WSOP.
Maybe I'm reading too much into a poor choice of words, but what is the difference between a regular lawsuit, and an "electronically" filed lawsuit.
Do you get your day in court faster, just like when you file your tax return electronically?
And apparently this lawsuit is "on behalf of all poker players..." so is this a class action suit or one that benefits Phil Ivey only?Comment -
Good business opportunity, making anti-full tilt shirts. Sell them only in the USA. Use the Full Tilt logo and trademark copiously. Not much chance of them suing you, or at least showing up in court to sue you.......
If they settle with the DOJ, then maybe you might want to watch out....Comment -
to all the yound kids/amatuer gamblers...Becoming A PRO is better than SBR PRO.
Its easy to access real cash than electronic cashComment -
so happy to have avoided all that PS/tilt/cereus messComment -
Even though Ivey is a beast, I think it's pretty well known that he doesn't particularly enjoy tournaments. He is there for the side games and usually gets little to no sleep because he plays the tournaments all day (due to his bracelet prop bets) and then the cash games all night), rinse and repeat. He'll probably be better off just playing the cash games while this mess is so public anyway. Props to Ivey for speaking up but I'm a little surprised with his lawsuit considering he has a piece of Full Tilt.
Somewhere Clonie Gowen is laughing right now...Comment -
go phlil!!!!!Comment -
Odds Ivey in on the theft of players money +175
Ivey is a gambler
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who do you think cried more, the PGA after thanksgiving dinner or espn/harrahs after browsing around on facebookComment -
nice to know I got under your skin buddy.Or maybe he generally cares about the future of the fuk'in game! You got the first part right, you really "don't" think much! Maybe Phil will give you his fuk'in stack of chips and let your dumb ass play for him!
Since you claim you're so fuk'in great with other people's chips, mr. 17th place finisher! I wouldn't even want that fuk'in badge on my signature!Top ten, yes, 17th place, stfu!
when you gonna qualify anyway mikey or is sbr just out to get you.Last edited by Cuse0323; 06-02-11, 02:44 AM.Comment -
He has beefed up his security and not hitting the clubs like he did a few months back. Will pop through the Rio sometime this week to see what the crowd looks like so far.Comment -
Why he is sitll one of my favourite players. Good poker EtiquencyComment -
Possibly the best ever. Good stuff Phil.Comment -
Its kind of backstabbing the other FTP pros, but he has got to take the obvious +EV play
I must flip a coin to pick, if Ivey or his lawyer started this thoComment -
buncha fake mutherfukkers around here......
Good on ya Phil, I always knew u were a straight shooter and a class act.......
Expose those plastic mutherfukkers for what they are - money grubbing cocksuckers who will suffer the same fate as those who have traveled down a similar path.
Even the longest road comes to an end fellas.... Having a bit of pride and dignity goes further than most realize.Comment -
Tiltware response to Ivey's lawsuit.
“Contrary to his sanctimonious public statements, Phil Ivey’s meritless lawsuit is about helping just one player – himself. In an effort to further enrich himself at the expense of others, Mr. Ivey appears to have timed his lawsuit to thwart pending deals with several parties that would put money back in players’ pockets. In fact, Mr. Ivey has been invited -- and has declined -- to take actions that could assist the company in these efforts, including paying back a large sum of money he owes the site. Tiltware doubts Mr. Ivey’s frivolous and self-serving lawsuit will ever get to court. But if it does, the company looks forward to presenting facts demonstrating that Mr. Ivey is putting his own narrow financial interests ahead of the players he professes to help.”
Read more: http://www.pokernews.com/news/2011/0...suit-10506.htmComment -
How could Ivey owe Full Tilt money?Comment -
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He has a partnership agreement.Comment -
Full Tilt Response
“Contrary to his sanctimonious public statements, Phil Ivey’s meritless lawsuit is about helping just one player – himself. In an effort to further enrich himself at the expense of others, Mr. Ivey appears to have timed his lawsuit to thwart pending deals with several parties that would put money back in players’ pockets. In fact, Mr. Ivey has been invited — and has declined — to take actions that could assist the company in these efforts, including paying back a large sum of money he owes the site. Tiltware doubts Mr. Ivey’s frivolous and self-serving lawsuit will ever get to court. But if it does, the company looks forward to presenting facts demonstrating that Mr. Ivey is putting his own narrow financial interests ahead of the players he professes to help.”
There is much more to this who saga and we will continue to work every angle in the hopes of finding out exactly what is going on. Much that has been reported is opinions and speculation on Ivey’s finances and contract with Full Tilt Poker.Comment -
i hope everyone gets there money from tiltComment -
Ivey is a partner in Full Tilt, though he has nothing to do with the operations of the company he was paid 5% ownership of the site to be their spokesperson, he shares responsibility (at least financially) if the company has robbed all its customers.
You cant own 5% of Madoffs company and have him pay you your 5 billion dollars while he stiffs everyone elseComment -
The Disingenuousness of Phil Ivey
As most of you know by now, Phil Ivey, Poker Star extroadinare, and arguably the best known poker player in the world, has filed a lawsuit against Full Tilt Poker seeking 150 million in damages, along with injuctive relief asking to be released from his FTP contract to pursue other potential endorsement deals. To beging this process, Phil Ivey released the following PR statement on his website;“For many years, I have been proud to call myself a poker player. This great sport has taken me to places I only imagined going and I have been blessed with much success. It is therefore with deep regret that I believe I am compelled to release the following statement.The Lawsuit in brief can be viewed at the following link ;
I am deeply disappointed and embarrassed that Full Tilt players have not been paid money they are owed. I am equally embarrassed that as a result many players cannot compete in tournaments and have suffered economic harm. I am not playing in the World Series of Poker as I do not believe it is fair that I compete when others cannot. I am doing everything I can to seek a solution to the problem as quickly as possible.
My name and reputation have been dragged through the mud, through the inactivity and indecision of others and on behalf of all poker players I refuse to remain silent any longer. I have electronically filed a lawsuit against Tiltware related to the unsettled player accounts. As I am sure the public can imagine, this was not an easy decision for me.
I wholeheartedly refuse to accept non-action as to repayment of players funds and I am angered that people who have supported me throughout my career have been treated so poorly.
I sincerely hope this statement will ignite those capable of resolving the problems into immediate action and would like to clarify that until a solution is reached that cements the security of all players, both US and International, I will, as I have for the last six weeks, dedicate the entirety of my time and efforts to finding a solution for those who have been wronged by the painfully slow process of repayment.”
The above statement has to be the most disgenious drivel I have ever read before. While I respect Ivey for looking out for his own interest here. I DO NOT RESPECT IVEY because he claims to care about the players who have not yet been paid”
Ivey goes on in his statement that his lawsuit has to do with PLAYERS, “plural”, accounts. Yet no where in the complaint filed does Phil seek relief for anyone else but himself. Ivey is asking for 150 million dollars for HIMSELF! If Ivey is even remotely doing this for the players, why is that not mentioned at all in the complaint?
I can certainly understand and agree with the complaint in terms of Ivey wanting to be let out of his contract with FTP.. But people, do not beleive Ivey is doing this for you!
Nothing Ivey is doing now is for your own good, for you guys to get paid. In fact, in my opinion, this can only hurt FTP’s effort to ensure you all get paid sooner than later. Granted, FTP has handled this situation very poorly, and their PR SUCKS MONKEY PUCKEY. Let’s look at FTP’S response to Ivey’s PR and Lawsuit to see how bad their PR department really is;“Contrary to his sanctimonious public statements, Phil Ivey’s meritless lawsuit is about helping just one player — himselfMichele Clayborne, of the company’s public relations agency, said by e-mail.
Tiltware doubts Mr. Ivey’s frivolous and self-serving lawsuit will ever get to court. But if it does, the company looks forward to presenting facts demonstrating that Mr. Ivey is putting his own narrow financial interests ahead of the players he professes to help.”
Who does PR for FTP, an angry boy who just got shot down by some hotty big chested girlie, thus rejecting his romantic desire? FTP should respond in a much more professional/adult manner. However, I do agree with them, Ivey is doing this for Ivey, and it is his right to do so for sure.
Some sources have said that Ivey had an account frozen by The DOJ, and is looking to insulate himself from further indictments that are said to be coming. FTP says Ivey owes them money, implying Ivey is cash poor and is looking for a fast buck, wanting out of his contract to take another deal with another site, as Ivey also implies another site/endorsement deal in his legal complaint.
Ivey has to know that by filing this lawsuit, it will not help anyone else but himself, and I think long term it may hurt Ivey. FTP made this bed however, and as I have mentioned many times before, they are handling this whole situation terribly. This post here is in no way meant to exonerate FTP or take their side in this. It is meant to show that Ivey does not give a shit about the players as his PR so disengenously stated. If you happen to be a man reading this and you beleive Ivey is out to help you, I would point out to you that the next time you take a piss, LIFT THE DAMNED TOILET SEAT UP MAN!Comment -
Damn I dont care whos in the wrong. Just send me my money. Fock FULL TILT!!!!!Comment -
crazy stuff. Hope to see him soonComment
