Moving out of the usa

[RickySteve]

Some relevant (and not-so-) info here.

[LLXC]

Can you make "frequent visits" to Canada since, say, your 2nd home is there?

[Tomahawk]

If one were tired of the draconian and outright fascist laws of the United States and wanted to move to foreign lands in order to enable electronic transport of money, access to all sportsbooks, exchanges, etc, where would be some places that have decent weather one could move to?

As a related follow up question, how does one go about getting permission to move to these countries for extended periods of time?

You should move to Europe, it is totally capitalistic. You can move money offshore, you can bet at any book, no one will care.

My country, Hungary is awesome. We let more multinational money in then every other European country, so we are totally globalised. Multies get low taxes here, even MGM is building a big casino complex here.

And our government lost the control 2 decades ago, when they barrowed a lot of money. So technically I'm richer then the government.

But only come here if you have money and know how to make more money! You will die in this country if you're poor but you can live the life of your dreams if you're rich as everywhere else on the planet.

If you want a more democratic European country check out Germany or England.

[byronbb]

I would say Thailand but all the early games start at 7am.

[thespeculator]

for pure no hassle of having an account with pinny or betfair u.k would be the best, but when you see those 900 sq ft houses, it is not so easy for most north americans, canada for lifestyle and being within driving distance of most of u.s , and the books are all accessible , as mentioned above you can't just walk across borders and live there. You would still need some kind of vis--a with proof of assets

[Pokerjoe]

Move to Playas De Tijuana. You can get an incredible, reasonably priced house right on the beach. You can be in San Diego in 25 minutes, with a Fast-Pass. The weather is the best on the planet. You get the best of both worlds- quick drive to the States, great weather, cheap luxurious housing, and you can gamble all you want.

You can even work in San Diego and commute home everynight if you want to. I live south of the border at my 2nd home 3-4 days per week; and I spend the rest of the time in San Diego. Don't believe the hype, its not as dangerous and scary as the media makes it out to be. I find the people to be extremely friendly. There are also a wide variety of beautiful, friendly senoritas that love gringos.

You don't need to do any paperwork with visas, passports etc. You can just rent a house there, and its a wrap. PM me if you want any advice.

I live in Carlsbad, George, and have thought about getting a place at La Playas, but I'm not sure I'm up for it yet. I like Mexico, and am comfortable with it, my wife is Mexican, my Spanish passable, but everytime I think it would probably be okay, something like this happens:

We haven't even visited Mexico for 3 to 4 years now, except for picking people up at the airport.

But your points about the ease of living there are valid. That must be the easiest, quickest way to get overseas, technically, while still having access to US goodies.

A question: do you bank in Mexico? Will the offshore sites allow for US banking, for example, wire transfers to US bank accounts, as long as your action is originating in Mexico? I would hesitate to use Mex banks. My wife refuses to.

[wiffle]

[quote=Tomahawk;10157059]You should move to Europe, it is totally capitalistic. quote]

wat

[Roy Halladay]

good, get the **** out

[zjohnzzz]

canada be the place,but bring your snow shovel

[usernametaken]

I live in Canada. No one hates us. We have more land than America and population is 30 million. I have accounts with any sportsbooks I want. Weather is rough in most parts. I find everyone in the US is angry. Fights might break out in parking lots over a parking space. Bump somebody's car and you might get shot. Many other factors. However, the NFL is infinitely better than the CFL

[Johnny 55]

What is the sports viewing situation in Canada, can u get direct TV, can you watch american sports, might have to move to this snowy place, damn you Tim Horton

[Johnny 55]

Thanks Ricky Steve, your post was the most informative in regard to all the issues relating to a move. I think Canada is probably my best bet,dont know if I will pull the trigger but our neighbors to the North might be welcoming me soon.

[ForgetWallStreet]

Thanks Ricky Steve, your post was the most informative in regard to all the issues relating to a move. I think Canada is probably my best bet,dont know if I will pull the trigger but our neighbors to the North might be welcoming me soon.

They'll only be welcoming you for 6 months as that's the longest you can stay in Canada per year without a V-I-S-A, which you won't get unless you're skilled in something besides typing fast. These threads are worth reading:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/19/high-stakes-pl-nl/steps-required-open-bank-poker-accounts-canada-1020755/

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/19/high-stakes-pl-nl/official-where-should-i-move-how-do-i-do-thread-1026252/

[frankthetank]

La Panama. Beautiful country. Great parts. Freedom. They don't like U.S. telling them what to do. So every hundred years or so the US troops go down and take it over. You got 70 years before the U.S. is due back. Direct TV. taxi cab anywhere in city for $3. They use American Money. No wacky cash with lizards and snakes and shit on it.

[ForgetWallStreet]

La Panama. .

The investment requirements for the type of V-I-S-A a gambler would be looking to receive are a bit stiff (200K+).

[usernametaken]

Yes. You can watch all the sports you want including Indian cricket.I am Canadian so I dont know about visas and getting into the country. Rich people can get in as long as they show x amount of money. I live in a part of the country that gets snow 2x per year and then melts. But I used to be cold when I was in the eastern part of the country

[Jontheman]

for pure no hassle of having an account with pinny or betfair u.k would be the best, but when you see those 900 sq ft houses, it is not so easy for most north americans, canada for lifestyle and being within driving distance of most of u.s , and the books are all accessible , as mentioned above you can't just walk across borders and live there. You would still need some kind of vis--a with proof of assets

Gambling winnings are tax free in the UK as is healthcare (if you're not paying the tax that funds it). That's two pretty high value freebies. BTW my house is 2500 sq ft and sits on 1/4 acre. Not huge by US standards maybe, but more space than I know what to do with, and I'm not a millionaire. If you move away from ridiculously overpriced London perfectly decent property is available and affordable.

It does rain a fair bit more than California though, I'll give you that.

[wiseacre]

[Wrecktangle]

What is wrong with Australia? Good weather, and gambling seems to be a God-given right...

...oh, and they speak a form of English, I'm told.

[gangeriver]

you plan to move to out of USA, well I will move to USA (California) next month. anyone has any advice?
it seems I should not get all of my eurobooks bankroll before the trip

[RickySteve]

The investment requirements for the type of V-I-S-A a gambler would be looking to receive are a bit stiff (200K+).

And that number keeps rising. When I first considered moving to Panama in 2005, an investor **** required $75K.

[tim0402]

im a millionaire with hot chicks around me all the time

[wtt0315]

if people want to move out of the u,s to gamble then maybe a ga meeting should be your next stop

[trumpdown]

If one were tired of the draconian and outright fascist laws of the United States and wanted to move to foreign lands in order to enable electronic transport of money, access to all sportsbooks, exchanges, etc, where would be some places that have decent weather one could move to?

As a related follow up question, how does one go about getting permission to move to these countries for extended periods of time?

Canada works. Just need 2 forms of ID to open banking send a wire to MB and you're started. You could even rent a shit office and use VPN from states if u wanted. Or perhaps use VPN without shit office if you can figure it all out. What you're asking takes some time to sort out, but isn't all that difficult to pull off without worry of v-i-s-a time constraints. Personally, I'd rather be global with your business "home-base" offshore.

[brettd]

Australia is 100% the best choice. I live here.

* We have access to every book/betting exchange on the planet.

* Punting/gambling is part of our national culture/identity.

* Large cash based betting (no ID) in every corner of this country. Hell, you can't walk into a pub here without seeing a cash based betting terminal.

* You want to cap a sport? Try over 10,000 races per year (average 40 per day, 364 days a year) with Australian horse racing (and low juice). Dozens of online corporate books, on track books, Betfair, etc. Even our parimutuel pools are linked with NZ and South Africa for larger pools and betting options. Horse racing is the king of betting turnover in this country.

* Nice weather, easy going life style

* Stable political environment, strong financial system

Where else in the world can you sit and watch a game of football/horse racing and see live odds changes on the big screen? That's how much gambling permeates this country.

Every sporting preview starts off with 'expert' commentary and ends with the bookmaker commentator talking about the odds.

This country is basically a giant Nevada.

[That Foreign Guy]

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[brettd]

LMAO! Awesome graph. Gotta watch those drop bears and hoop snakes!

http://www.economist.com/blogs/daily...11/05/gambling <--- we take the cake for gambling.

After what I've described above, you can see why.

http://www.news.com.au/national/hes-a-billionaire-an-aussie-and-the-worlds-biggest-punter-exclusive-special-report/story-e6frfkvr-1225829896682

<--- Biggest punter on the planet is an Australian. $1 billion annual betting turnover, mostly on Australian horse racing. Makes Bill Walters look like a chump.

[wiffle]

ur not getting into australia

[bettilimbroke999]

ur not getting into australia

They used to use Australia as a prison colony now ya cant get in if you want to, quite an improvement over there, well done Aussies

[chachi]

it is quite nice here must admit

[Jontheman]

Australia is 100% the best choice. I live here.

* We have access to every book/betting exchange on the planet.

* Punting/gambling is part of our national culture/identity.

* Large cash based betting (no ID) in every corner of this country. Hell, you can't walk into a pub here without seeing a cash based betting terminal.

* You want to cap a sport? Try over 10,000 races per year (average 40 per day, 364 days a year) with Australian horse racing (and low juice). Dozens of online corporate books, on track books, Betfair, etc. Even our parimutuel pools are linked with NZ and South Africa for larger pools and betting options. Horse racing is the king of betting turnover in this country.

* Nice weather, easy going life style

* Stable political environment, strong financial system

Where else in the world can you sit and watch a game of football/horse racing and see live odds changes on the big screen? That's how much gambling permeates this country.

Every sporting preview starts off with 'expert' commentary and ends with the bookmaker commentator talking about the odds.

This country is basically a giant Nevada.

For a country that's supposedly so gambler-friendly you have some really stupid restrictions on in-play betting, and your national monopoly bookmaker has shocking juice for even major aussie sports. Apart from that and the lethal fauna/flora I'd agree it's pretty much all good.

[brettd]

The Gambling Productivity Commission has recommended to government to drop archaic, pre-internet legislation on using methods other than telephone to bet in-play. This recommendation is expected to be enacted by government in the short term.

We don't at all have a 'national monopoly bookmaker', we have a LOT of corporate, on-line and on-track books and bookmakers. Most sportsbooks offer the equivalent of 8c to 10c lines. If you're referring to the state based racing pari-mutuel pools, there's 5 of them, and the difference in their respective cash flows means effective juice of around 5-7% if you shop around to put money down on your selections (easily done through various software products).

These days, you can bet online with 20-30 books and all the pari-mutuel pools from a single online account.

[chachi]

Yeah I bet Paddy Power is waiting anxiously for the in-play restrictions to be relaxed ... they made a massive investment buying in and are unable to leverage their core strengths in offering umpteen zillion in-play lines at present

[That Foreign Guy]

I thought Paddy's core strength was spreading massively square lines and banning you for betting the dog?

That and novelty bets.

[chachi]

well, them also