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  • Ace_of_Spades
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 10-14-09
    • 13518

    #1
    3 Balls No Strikes
    The chance of the pitcher throwing 3 straight strikes are extremely low. Why not stand and take the walk instead of swinging and grounding out on a possible ball 4.
  • Albert Pujols
    SBR MVP
    • 06-01-10
    • 1670

    #2
    Because the pitcher is still trying to get you out.
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    • Ace_of_Spades
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 10-14-09
      • 13518

      #3
      Originally posted by Albert Pujols
      Because the pitcher is still trying to get you out.
      No.
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      • daimoshokage
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 02-07-11
        • 8935

        #4
        better swing it than look stupid for looking..
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        • Ace_of_Spades
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 10-14-09
          • 13518

          #5
          Originally posted by daimoshokage
          better swing it than look stupid for looking..
          When you have 3 balls and no strikes? Uh, taking the WALK should always be the better option imo especially when you suck at hitting.
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          • Naz18
            SBR MVP
            • 09-10-09
            • 4277

            #6
            This guy is a clown....a 3-0 count is very favorable to the batter....
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            • Ace_of_Spades
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 10-14-09
              • 13518

              #7
              Originally posted by Naz18
              This guy is a clown....a 3-0 count is very favorable to the batter....
              I hope you aren't referring to me. Clearly you have not read any of my posts or the title of this thread. Do you wear a hat on your head that reads dunce.

              No sh*t its favorable to the batter, but they still swing.
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              • Naz18
                SBR MVP
                • 09-10-09
                • 4277

                #8
                Again your getting things wrong....average batters will take or usually its up to the manager. Top batters usually have the green light.

                Also chance of a pitcher throwing three straight strikes is not "extremely low"
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                • Glitch
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 07-08-09
                  • 11795

                  #9
                  because if they dont WANT to walk you, thats when youre most likely to get a good pitch. hit a 3-run homer instead of walkin to first.

                  plus if you swing at a bad pitch at least you can foul it off, if you swing at a good one, you can lay the wood.

                  some people DO try to take the walk and get 2 strikes looking that they coulda hit for somethin nice, and then the count is full all of the sudden AND they missed some opportunities.
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                  • rfr3sh
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 11-07-09
                    • 10229

                    #10
                    Well I've noticed a lot that they usually take the 4th pitch which always seems to be a fastball for a strike..atleast the games I watched...not sure why
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                    • RudyRuetigger
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 08-24-10
                      • 65084

                      #11
                      depends on the situation
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                      • statnerds
                        SBR MVP
                        • 09-23-09
                        • 4047

                        #12
                        What that guy said

                        The pitcher is trying to avoid walking a guy and putting another man on base.

                        The batter is more likely to see better pitches in this situation.

                        And 90+% of the time, we see the fastball down the middle with the hitter taking. A free strike for the pitcher. Now what are chances he throws 2 strikes?

                        All moot anyway, baseball sucks
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                        • Boner_18
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 08-24-08
                          • 8301

                          #13
                          It's a moneyball-ish type concept and you are right. However, taking the pitch likely only applies on 3-0, and to a lesser extent 3-1. At 3-2 you are more likely to reach base (or seeing another pitch, aka not making an out) by swinging.

                          It's all about reaching base, can't make runs unless you DONT make an out.
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                          • statnerds
                            SBR MVP
                            • 09-23-09
                            • 4047

                            #14
                            Walk him and pitch to the rhino?
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                            • str
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 01-12-09
                              • 11773

                              #15
                              Working the math of the ball diameter, width of plate, size of strike zone , etc., trust me when I say that it would take 88 balls to fill up the rectangle of the strike zone.
                              1. The situation will always drive any decision.

                              2. The hitter should be allowed to swing at approx. 2 of the balls located within the zone at 3-0. Because each hitter has a different " favorite spot " the player has that final say but the hitting coach and manager are well aware of that location.
                              Anything outside of that 2 ball area would be considered a mistake.

                              3.This two ball area is roughly a 3 inch by 6 inch area, not two separate 2.9 inch areas in two different locations.
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                              • face
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 01-31-11
                                • 14740

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Glitch
                                because if they dont WANT to walk you, thats when youre most likely to get a good pitch. hit a 3-run homer instead of walkin to first. plus if you swing at a bad pitch at least you can foul it off, if you swing at a good one, you can lay the wood. some people DO try to take the walk and get 2 strikes looking that they coulda hit for somethin nice, and then the count is full all of the sudden AND they missed some opportunities.
                                perfect answer
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                                • B1GER1C828
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 07-31-07
                                  • 10244

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Glitch
                                  because if they dont WANT to walk you, thats when youre most likely to get a good pitch. hit a 3-run homer instead of walkin to first. plus if you swing at a bad pitch at least you can foul it off, if you swing at a good one, you can lay the wood. some people DO try to take the walk and get 2 strikes looking that they coulda hit for somethin nice, and then the count is full all of the sudden AND they missed some opportunities.
                                  this.

                                  and i wouldnt say 3 staight strikes is extremely low.

                                  If its 3-0 and its albert pujols, you'll prob throw him a ball or try to paint the corners but your def not throwing it right down the middle. If your facing a number 9 hitter(or a pitcher) then you have less fear of throwing 3 straight strikes.

                                  So you couldn't have thought this out much before you posted this thread.

                                  lets not forget that their professional baseball players...
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                                  • stogies
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 02-24-11
                                    • 641

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Ace_of_Spades
                                    The chance of the pitcher throwing 3 straight strikes are extremely low. Why not stand and take the walk instead of swinging and grounding out on a possible ball 4.
                                    because major league players have alot more talent than you. that is why they are pro baseball players and your an amateur forum poster.
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