Is Jorge Posada a Hall of Famer?

**LVBOUND** · 05-17-11, 11:56 PM

No he is not. Not even close

Sorry 1600 hits wont do it 273 avg and only 267 HR.

You are really showing how stupid you are

**daimoshokage** · 05-18-11, 12:02 AM

Originally posted by LVBOUND

No he is not. Not even close

Sorry 1600 hits wont do it 273 avg and only 267 HR.

You are really showing how stupid you are

Coming from a classless pig

**LVBOUND** · 05-18-11, 12:09 AM

Posada a great guy with a hit wife = YES
Posada a hall of famer = HELL NO SORRY

**tony_come** · 05-18-11, 12:23 AM

Of course he is

**LVBOUND** · 05-18-11, 12:26 AM

I am going to use your on name her COME ON TONY!! no chance in hell the line on him in the hall is like +1500

**ttwarrior1** · 05-18-11, 12:48 AM

of course he is in , its common sense, you dont use normal hitting stats, you compare to other catchers, and post season , leadership, blah blah blah

Not a 1st ballot but he will be in some day.

anyone with sense knows he is in. Next thing your gonna say biggio won't go

**LVBOUND** · 05-18-11, 12:55 AM

Warrior no chance sorry

**LVBOUND** · 05-18-11, 12:58 AM

Mike Cameron has better stats the Posada and gold gloves

Posada is a 4 time all star with ZERO gold gloves. Posada was liability behind the plate.

Where are my real baseball experts at.

It is not even close/

**Hotdiggity11** · 05-18-11, 01:03 AM

Is this a serious question?

**Hotdiggity11** · 05-18-11, 01:05 AM

Originally posted by ttwarrior1

of course he is in , its common sense, you dont use normal hitting stats, you compare to other catchers, and post season , leadership, blah blah blah

Not a 1st ballot but he will be in some day.

anyone with sense knows he is in. Next thing your gonna say biggio won't go

Comparing Biggio to Posada is silly. Biggio has a higher career BA, more runs batted in, more homeruns, and far more hits.

**LVBOUND** · 05-18-11, 01:11 AM

Originally posted by Hotdiggity11

Is this a serious question?

I thought the same thing but Dumb ass daimoshokage just doesnt no sports to include baseball.

**ttwarrior1** · 05-18-11, 01:14 AM

5 time all star, 3rd and 6th in mvp voting

Longevity

post season

25th in games played

Hall of fame monitor has him 98 and need to be 100 to be an average hall of famer, but being in new york and a catcher helps his cause, plus post season

Over his 17 year career, Posada has found himself encapsulated in the middle of powerful Yankee hitters while also producing solid offensive numbers for himself.
If he would retired tonight, Posada would end his career with:
1601 hits
267 homeruns
1036 RBIs
.273 batting average
.852 OPS
His offensive numbers, when compared to the modern-era catchers currently enshrined in Cooperstown, are typical of a hall of catcher.
The average stats of the ten modern era catchers currently in the Hall (Bench, Berra, Campanella, Carter, Cochrane, Dickey, Ferrell, Fisk, Hartnett, Lombardi) are as follows:
1882 hits
246 homeruns
1161 RBIs
.290 batting average
.827 OPS

You cannot deny the offensive accomplishments of Jorge Posada.

Posada gets the nod in three of the five categories while falling short in two of the more useless ones – RBIs and batting average.
It is hard to deny entry to a catcher of the dynasty that was the late 90′s to early 00′s New York Yankees. In modern statistical language, Posada average 3.9 offensive wins above replacement from 1998 to 2004, the Yankee glory years, while finishing fifth in the American League in the stat in 2003 with 6.0 oWAR. Posada is 16th actively in oWAR.
However, was Posada that useful in the playoffs for the Yanks?

However, Posada has struggled in World Series play.

Sure, Posada does have five rings (yes, he has five rings, but only should get credit for four since he did not play in the 1996 World Series) to show for it, but what if I told you that those rings represented a .241 playoff batting average, .729 playoff OPS, and more double plays grounded into (15) than homeruns (11).
What if I told you that in World Series play, Posada hit .219 in 29 games with a .667 OPS?
In the two World Series losses, 2001 to the Diamondbacks and 2003 to the Marlins, Posada hit .174 and .158. In those two series combined, Posada grounded into three double plays while only driving in two runs.
The bling will certainly help Posada in his pursuit of the Hall, but it is tough to give Posada a lot of credit for those rings. Sure, he helped the Yankees get there, but he got progressively worse as the crunch time approached. He is kind of like the anti-Robert Horry.
Posada also has a second black-eye that could hurt his Hall of Fame chances – his defense.
He has led the league twice in passed balls, allowing at least 11 in six seasons. His best career caught stealing percentage was 40% in 1998. His career dWAR is at a -2.6. Even Gary Carter who allowed almost 1500 stolen bases in 1954 games at catcher had a dWAR of 10.0.
His defensive numbers won’t be looked at by the Hall of Fame voters. His postseason numbers won’t be investigated outside of the fact that he caught for the Yankee dynasty that walked away with 5 rings.
Posada is one of many borderline players who will be struggling to get into the Hall for a few years. Will he get in? Most likely. Will he be first ballot? He really shouldn’t be unless it’s a weak year. Do I think he should get in? After a few years, yes

**LVBOUND** · 05-18-11, 01:31 AM

I got to give you props for writing that up warrior.

I think IF he gets in it will be because he played in NY.

Lets be honest about that.

Horrible behind the plate defensively.

**tony_come** · 05-18-11, 01:52 AM

Lvbound don't be a hater

he's in pal

**LVBOUND** · 05-18-11, 01:54 AM

No I am not hating if anything I am hating on NY. The reason he could get it is because he is a Yankee.

His numbers do not deserve it that is all I am saying.

When Mike Cameron has better numbers than you then there are issues.

**daimoshokage** · 05-18-11, 02:15 AM

Originally posted by LVBOUND

No I am not hating if anything I am hating on NY. The reason he could get it is because he is a Yankee.

His numbers do not deserve it that is all I am saying.

When Mike Cameron has better numbers than you then there are issues.

hey genius, if you're a yankee you should be in the hall of fame.. that's the no. 1 rule.. MLB is NYK..

Mariano Rivera - 100% 1st ballot HOFer
Alex Rodriguez - 100% 1st ballot HOFer
Derek Jeter - Will be a HOFer but not in the 1st ballot
Andy Pettitte - Will be a HOFer but not in the 1st ballot
Gary Sheffield - Will be a HOFer but not in the 1st ballot
CC Sabathia - Will be a HOFer but not in the 1st ballot
Paul O'Neill - Will be a HOFer in a weak year
Jorge Posada - Will be a HOFer in a weak year
Jason Giambi - No chance, this guy is roided
Joba Chamberlain - No chance, this guy is a bum

**CanuckG** · 05-18-11, 02:19 AM

Originally posted by daimoshokage

hey genius, if you're a yankee you should be in the hall of fame.. that's the no. 1 rule.. MLB is NYK..

Mariano Rivera - 100% 1st ballot HOFer
Alex Rodriguez - 100% 1st ballot HOFer
Derek Jeter - Will be a HOFer but not in the 1st ballot
Andy Pettitte - Will be a HOFer but not in the 1st ballot
Gary Sheffield - Will be a HOFer but not in the 1st ballot
CC Sabathia - Will be a HOFer but not in the 1st ballot
Paul O'Neill - Will be a HOFer in a weak year
Jorge Posada - Will be a HOFer in a weak year
Jason Giambi - No chance, this guy is roided
Joba Chamberlain - No chance, this guy is a bum

Derek jeter not 1st ballot??? A-roid 1st ballot....gl with that....the press/guys who run the HOF hate him.

**CanuckG** · 05-18-11, 02:21 AM

but overall yeah i agree with the list daimo....a-rod is a stud regardless.

**daimoshokage** · 05-18-11, 02:26 AM

Originally posted by CanuckG

Derek jeter not 1st ballot??? A-roid 1st ballot....gl with that....the press/guys who run the HOF hate him.

You gotta be drunk canuck for thinking that jeter is a 1st ballot hall of famer.. a-rod should be and will be a 1st ballot hall of famer.. he could even end up the as the greatest baseball player of all time..

**antifoil** · 05-18-11, 02:41 AM

yes he will be because he played for the yankees. if he played for any other team, he wouldn't be. biggio was a much better player and i hear people say he won't get in.

**CanuckG** · 05-18-11, 02:46 AM

Originally posted by daimoshokage

You gotta be drunk canuck for thinking that jeter is a 1st ballot hall of famer.. a-rod should be and will be a 1st ballot hall of famer.. he could even end up the as the greatest baseball player of all time..

a-roid isnt and will never be the best

**pacerboy** · 05-18-11, 02:48 AM

Originally posted by daimoshokage

hey genius, if you're a yankee you should be in the hall of fame.. That's the no. 1 rule.. Mlb is nyk.. Mariano rivera - 100% 1st ballot hofer alex rodriguez - 100% 1st ballot hofer derek jeter - will be a hofer but not in the 1st ballot andy pettitte - will be a hofer but not in the 1st ballot gary sheffield - will be a hofer but not in the 1st ballot cc sabathia - will be a hofer but not in the 1st ballot paul o'neill - will be a hofer in a weak year jorge posada - will be a hofer in a weak year jason giambi - no chance, this guy is roided joba chamberlain - no chance, this guy is a bum

POSADA, O'NEILL, GIAMBI

... WHERE IS JIM LEYRITZ? TINO MARTINEZ? CHUCK KNOBLAUCH?

**Naz18** · 05-18-11, 03:04 AM

Originally posted by LVBOUND

No I am not hating if anything I am hating on NY. The reason he could get it is because he is a Yankee. His numbers do not deserve it that is all I am saying. When Mike Cameron has better numbers than you then there are issues.

Go compare offensive stats to other catcher....

**warriorfan707** · 05-18-11, 03:07 AM

**Wiggums5** · 05-18-11, 07:01 AM

no posada has no shot

jeter first ballot yes
some guys really don't know baseball...

**Michael Ferro** · 05-18-11, 07:31 AM

even without the latest shit he has stirred he is not HOF, weak bat. When the yankees are on fire winning, they all look like HOFers'

**dark star** · 05-18-11, 09:03 AM

Hell no...but he is a complete selfish asshole

**TobiasFunke** · 05-18-11, 09:33 AM

Not a chance

**JVP3122** · 05-18-11, 09:45 AM

When you look at his numbers compared to other catchers it makes him borderline. If I'm a baseball writer I'm not voting for him, but to say that he has no shot of getting in demonstrates a complete lack of baseball knowledge.

**BigDaddy** · 05-18-11, 09:53 AM

no he is not a hall of famer

**LVBOUND** · 05-18-11, 09:58 AM

He has a shot cause he play in New York if he played for Kansas City he would have ZERO chance

**Landscaper** · 05-18-11, 09:59 AM

When comparing Posada to Camron it shows u have no clue about the topic

Catchers r compared against each other and with that Posada is in

**BRAVES1985** · 05-18-11, 10:06 AM

jeter first ballot

**JW Cash** · 05-18-11, 10:08 AM

posada is by far the best player the yankees have ever had all time