Is Lebron the biggest choke artist

[Scorpion]

Pipen is broke, he has no money, he even sold the furniture in his home, he will do and say anything for money

[Goat Milk]

pippen was a role player ahahahahah. dumbest comment in history

[kingdom]

its funny. i dont know how old a lot of you guys are. but people called jordan just a scorer aka dominique wilkins until he won a championship in his SEVENTH SEASON. lebron is in his 8th which puts him just a year off the mark while 2 years younger than mike was at the time. mia is too good to win. mike had phil while lebron has spoelstra. ouch. dependent on how good okc becomes, mia should win 4 rings in the next 6 years.watching the first 3 quarters i just kept saying its not fair when i saw what lebron and wade was doing to these guys. after they lost game 1 to chicago people freaked. they are fine and will win in 6 if they win games 3 and 5. they are by far the superior team between the two. they make dallas look their age. they just had a complete brain fart and a coach that could offer nothing. they can 3peat if riles comes down or phil comes on.

[kingdom]

LOL. I knew this was coming, I knew it. The guy basically domianted and led his team to the Finals with his preferences in the 4th quarter in the Boston and Chicago series. The guy plays bad, the whole team plays bad actually in the final four minutes, and suddenly he is the worst ever.

I tend to just ignore these comments from people, because even if the guy does hit the shot to win the Finals, these guys will have an excuse to why he did and not give him any credit. Ooooooo, dallas, messed up on defense,oooooooooo he was only open because they doubled Wade.

hey genius, ever heard of horace grant, ron harper, scottie pippen, dennis rodman? i havent seen a team play defense the way the heat have since those guys. they could shut down anyone. i believe they held utah to something like 54 in a finals game one year. mike can't d 5 guys. pippen controlled the lanes averaging steals and with phil's help they always knew when to double, closeout, and make the other teams superstar average.
this is for the guy that said mike did it alone.

[Goat Milk]

these guys are all kids. anyone that calls pippen a role player or doesn't even mention rodman as a factor for the reason the bulls won those championships knows nothing of basketball

[N.O.S.]

hey genius, ever heard of horace grant, ron harper, scottie pippen, dennis rodman? i havent seen a team play defense the way the heat have since those guys. they could shut down anyone. i believe they held utah to something like 54 in a finals game one year. mike can't d 5 guys. pippen controlled the lanes averaging steals and with phil's help they always knew when to double, closeout, and make the other teams superstar average.
this is for the guy that said mike did it alone.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO and goat nominated this post

[kingdom]

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO and goat nominated this post

when the heat wrap this series up easily, based on defense and athleticism, we'll see. boston had a good defense last year, but compared to the heat, its nothing. i haven't seen this d since the bulls. plain and simple. like rome says, only team that can beat the heatles, is the heatles and spoelstra. doesn't use foul, puts bosh on dirk?? seriously? joel anthony not in game. haven't seen j jones all series. if yours superstars are doubled, wouldn't it be nice to have your best 3 point shooter on the court instead of bibby and miller? bench scored 11 and 9 was by chalmers. ridiculous. spoelstra is an average coach at best. if riley wasn't pulling his strings he'd be hopeless. too bad riles can't coach during games

[mojomaker11]

Rodman was a big factor in the Bulls championships.

[jnickell100]

This guy JNick is a clown. You bump this thread after game 2 when Lebron has tore it up the whole playoffs you don't say anything. This thread is an epic fail. James will most likely make you eat your words by the time the series is over. Pippen was a ROLE PLAYER?? This guy has to be like 16 years old. Pippen is one of the greatest players in the history of the NBA. Rodman is the greatest defender ever to play the game and its not even close. Both 1st ballot hall of famers- yeah jordan won by himself

Kinda like the pot calling the kettle black eh goat? You're by far the biggest douche bag on this site....hands down. Dont you have to go write some more "in depth" analysis?? We're all looking forward to some more of your bullshit.

You just have a hard on for the heat and LeChoke. I dont think that i have ever seen you go against the heat ONE TIME, thats because you are a homer. Lebron has tore it up the whole playoffsYa he averages in mid 20s, great. But HE CANNOT CLOSE A GAME. Get his kok out of your face to see

Damn right Pippen was a role player. Without Jordan, Pippen would be just an average or slightly above average player.

[jnickell100]

these guys are all kids. anyone that calls pippen a role player or doesn't even mention rodman as a factor for the reason the bulls won those championships knows nothing of basketball

For how much you know basketball you sure are a fukkin idiot. Jordan was their number 1 guy. HANDS DOWN. He had the ball when they needed a basket and you constantly take double and triple teams, and once someone is double teamed guess what happens goat? Someone is going to be wide open. Pippen was the recipient of most of this and the reason he would score as much as he did......HE was a role player for the bulls. Put him on any other team and he is going to be slightly above average player with 15ppg.

And goat. For as much as you claim to know about basketball and the knowledge about the game you sure cant pick or analyze a game worth SHIT. So maybe you should get back to "studying" the game some more rather than being on SBR and spewing all of your bullshhit

[NickDiaz209]

And goat. For as much as you claim to know about basketball and the knowledge about the game you sure cant pick or analyze a game worth SHIT. So maybe you should get back to "studying" the game some more rather than being on SBR and spewing all of your bullshhit[/quote]


Post of the year?

[marcoloco]

lbj is inconsistent at times down the stretch. some times he is unstoppable other times he doesnt appear to be trying

[INVEGA MAN]

All i know is you dont celebrate until you win the game. I love when Lebron looks into the crowd and gives that shit eating grin. well he ate the shit because they were embarrassed. everybody i talked today loved how they choked. i have never saw a team that fans hate like they do the Heat

[alamo]

Lebron is going to be MVP

[Goat Milk]

Pippen is a "slightly above average player"

get lost kid

[Goat Milk]

keep posting in players talk loser

Pippen was 3rd in voting for MVP when JOrdan retired.

YEAH AVERAGE PLAYERS GET VOTES FOR MVP

[wikkidinsane]

Pipen is broke, he has no money, he even sold the furniture in his home, he will do and say anything for money

I dont think so. it is comical how he works for the Bulld organization though and he was saying all these things

[SportsPedagogy]

Pippen lives in Miami

[jnickell100]

Pippen is a "slightly above average player" get lost kid

I'm not even sure while im responding to you since you are not intelligent enough to comprehend a complete sentence. But like i said GM, you think you are so knowledgeable about basketball, yet you cannot pick a game to save your life. In fact, you are the only person on this board that thinks you know anything about basketball. People who are good at something, don't feel the need to go out of their way to belittle people and proclaim they know basketball more than anyone else.

[FEARtheSPEAR24]

LeBron in this years playoffs alone (despite the ending of gm 2 vs the Mavs) has pretty much put this post to rest. Like somebody said the dude is 26, get off his nuts

[Shack]

Lebron is definitely not a choke artist. He is the real deal from start to finish. After watching him beat Detroit a few years ago in the series I was a true believer.

[Tree Rollins]

I don't know but it did seem like for the last 6 minutes of game 2 he would dribble the ball 40 feet from the basket until there were about 8 seconds left on the shot clock. If the Lebron made sure to move the ball in those last 6 minutes, at least a little, this series would be over.

[FEARtheSPEAR24]

I don't know but it did seem like for the last 6 minutes of game 2 he would dribble the ball 40 feet from the basket until there were about 8 seconds left on the shot clock. If the Lebron made sure to move the ball in those last 6 minutes, at least a little, this series would be over.

For the most part at the end of that game bibby or somebody would pass the ball to LeBron who was at least 25ft away from the basket with 5sec left on the shot clock. Who then would have to throw up pretty much a fade away 3pt shot.
Thats not LeBrons fault, thats Spoelstras fault for not knowing how to make changes in the offense

[Shack]

It seemed the Heat were trying to run the clock out too much instead of trying to score and it backfired.

[NBA_Brosuf]

It seemed the Heat were trying to run the clock out too much instead of trying to score and it backfired.

It is the coaches call to eat the clock. Blame it on the ex video recorder boy.

I don't see why Miami needs to play chicken to eat up that clock. Their defenses were doing well with turn over to steal points and there is no threat to the Miami side so why calling it quits when there is still a bunch of time on the clock?

At least try to execute and run some plays to get points. If I lead and I get points and you get points, everything will cancel out and I will still have the lead.

You lose the game in front of your own fans and that's embarrassing. Not only that, all them cheering and fist pumping to your chest during the game is now worthless.

Miami got lucky that the game is going to Dallas. Had it been in Miami, I feel sorry for their fans and organizations. Like how can you save your face when you let Dallas get an easy one? It is not like game 2 had multi changing leads or anything.

[Mac4Lyfe]

I don't get that comment at all. Why is it so bad, the players actually decided their own fate?

Instead of having management decide it for them. Jordan would have never won without Pippen, Rodman and crew. That team would have never of been that great. We would not be talking about Jordan being this all time great, if he had to spend the rest of his career in Clev. like some people expected Lebron to do.

Your talking about a superstar leaving the team he was drafted to in the prime of his career? That's horseshit. What other superstar did this? It's a difference if the team traded him. I'm of the old school where I think stars leaving teams is very bad for the sport, any sport. See a player belongs not only to the team but also to the city. Imagine Roger Staubach, Kenny Stabler, Magic Johnson, Emmitt Smith, etc., leaving their teams in the prime of their career? The new CBA will address this problem very shortly because Cleveland got screwed with the current terms.

Now on one hand I'm glad that players have choices, management for many years have screwed players on the other side of the table BUT this was different. Wade, Lebron and Bosh conspired several years ago. They put on a charade when they knew a while ago that they were going to Miami. That's what was so deceptive about this.

You said Jordan wouldn't have won a title if he wasn't in Chicago? You said he wouldn't be talked about if he was in Cleveland. Are you nuts? Did you follow the NBA back then? Cleveland had an incredible team back then only hampered by Jordan. If Jordan had Mark Price, Hotrod Williams, Brad Daugherty, Ron Harper (for a few more years), Ehlo, etc., he would have won a title quicker than he did. Cleveland was a much better team than Chicago minus Jordan. Also realize that the NBA players were much better than this group of guys in the league who can't even shoot mid range. Winning a title back then was earned. Now, there's a lot of very bad/mediocre teams. In reality, if Lebron would have stayed with Cleveland this year, it was a good chance that he would be in the finals anyway. The Magic and Celtics both got worse and the Bulls really never gave Cleveland any problems the past 7 years. The Cav's 2 years ago and possibly last year was better than this years Heat to me.

[GUMMO77]

Pippen is probably one the most overrated players in the history of basketball .. next to Walton. And the NBA MVP is a joke. Has been for years. Rose as the MVP is so *******

[jnickell100]

Your talking about a superstar leaving the team he was drafted to in the prime of his career? That's horseshit. What other superstar did this? It's a difference if the team traded him. I'm of the old school where I think stars leaving teams is very bad for the sport, any sport. See a player belongs not only to the team but also to the city. Imagine Roger Staubach, Kenny Stabler, Magic Johnson, Emmitt Smith, etc., leaving their teams in the prime of their career? The new CBA will address this problem very shortly because Cleveland got screwed with the current terms. Now on one hand I'm glad that players have choices, management for many years have screwed players on the other side of the table BUT this was different. Wade, Lebron and Bosh conspired several years ago. They put on a charade when they knew a while ago that they were going to Miami. That's what was so deceptive about this. You said Jordan wouldn't have won a title if he wasn't in Chicago? You said he wouldn't be talked about if he was in Cleveland. Are you nuts? Did you follow the NBA back then? Cleveland had an incredible team back then only hampered by Jordan. If Jordan had Mark Price, Hotrod Williams, Brad Daugherty, Ron Harper (for a few more years), Ehlo, etc., he would have won a title quicker than he did. Cleveland was a much better team than Chicago minus Jordan. Also realize that the NBA players were much better than this group of guys in the league who can't even shoot mid range. Winning a title back then was earned. Now, there's a lot of very bad/mediocre teams. In reality, if Lebron would have stayed with Cleveland this year, it was a good chance that he would be in the finals anyway. The Magic and Celtics both got worse and the Bulls really never gave Cleveland any problems the past 7 years. The Cav's 2 years ago and possibly last year was better than this years Heat to me.

[plzkthx]

The fact is if he win he will always look like a sell out in everyone's eyes. Because he conspired to get together with 3 allstars there. Thats the fact. Its obsolete that shaq was a dominant force. Its the fact that lebron and every other dick rider of his, crowned him the king without ever doing anything. When the going got tuff he gave up and joined another team to piggy back his way to a title. No great player in any other sport ever did that and still claimed themselves to be the best.

How is LeBron a sellout? His contract was up, He was a free agent. If this is considered a sell out then I guess all players who switches teams are sellouts. Ray Allen? Carmelo? Shaq...Strou..oh wait even MJ himself. I can keep on going..

These days it takes more then 1 superstar to even win a championship, if not multiple ones. How can you say he gave up? The Cavs was the ones who gave up, by not being able to recruit another player of lebron's caliber to support him after 7 seasons. Look at the teams out there...especially this season in the East. The Bulls added Boozer to support Rose/Noah, Knicks added Strou/Caramelo...possibley CP3 next year. Celtics have the big three, garnett and allen was added to support Pierce. You cannot expect LeBron at his prime to commit another 5-6 years of his career to the Cav's organization without help. As you can see with LeBron out of the equation, the Cavs went from an over 60 wins last year to over 60 losses this year.

Lebron made the best decision of his life by leaving Cleveland. Regardless of where ever he went people should respect his choice.



Thats my 2 cent.

[cupcupdish]

Lebron is still the guy to beat. He is not clutch but he is still effective when he has the ball. His stats shows that he is far better than half of the best players in the league right now. Lebron, he plays like he is still fresh to the NBA, over payed and over hyped and possible over rated.

[bureK]

How do you expect to hit him just every clutch shot he takes. Sometimes he will sometimes not. He is proven to do that since Cle days so why not give him the ball? Looks like this year wasn't his. Expect him to hit every next shot in the 11/12 season.

People are spoilt

[HAPPY BOY]

another lebron hater.. guy has been all clutch. When he flashes his ring the ******* haters wil have to go find something else to circle jerk about. GO HEAT!

[jnickell100]

another lebron hater.. guy has been all clutch. When he flashes his ring the ******* haters wil have to go find something else to circle jerk about. GO HEAT!

[Deggs]

[crustyme]

at least pippen led the bulls past 1st round of the playoffs while jordan was striking out in baseball, something jordan could never do without pippen.