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  • NDIrish9
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    • 12-02-09
    • 342

    #1
    Reds/Cardinals grade: Has this ever happened before?
    I bet Volquez +100 / Batista -110

    Batista started

    Rain Delay

    After rain delay, reds announce Maloney starting.

    So, Volquez never makes a pitch, but Maloney named starter after the game has started, thus there was no adjusted line.

    Youwager tells me the adjusted line for Maloney (long reliever, bad pitcher) WAS +100.

    No Fkn way.


    What's protocol here for action bets? How can they even put out a fair adjusted line after the game had started?


    Bet should be canceled.
  • NDIrish9
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    • 12-02-09
    • 342

    #2
    ?????????????????????????????
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    • Albert Pujols
      SBR MVP
      • 06-01-10
      • 1670

      #3
      If you had listed pitchers then both pitchers have to throw the first pitch or no action. Not debateable.
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      • Albert Pujols
        SBR MVP
        • 06-01-10
        • 1670

        #4
        Action then you are screwed. Also not debateable.
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        • Albert Pujols
          SBR MVP
          • 06-01-10
          • 1670

          #5
          The book is correct.
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          • NDIrish9
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            • 12-02-09
            • 342

            #6
            Originally posted by Albert Pujols
            The book is correct.
            How is the book correct?

            Action: Any pitcher may start for either team. However, if there is a pitching change Action wagers will be computed with opening price of the new pitcher.

            There WAS NO OPENING PRICE for Maloney because when the game started, Volquez was still the starting pitcher.
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            • ouman101
              SBR MVP
              • 12-02-09
              • 2815

              #7
              Well, I'm sure this doesn't make you feel better, but I had St. Louis scores first. On the wager screen, it says nothing about pitchers, nor can you chose action or listed pitchers must start. Now all of a sudden that bet is canceled because Volquez didn't start. Does this seem right to everyone?
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              • NDIrish9
                Restricted User
                • 12-02-09
                • 342

                #8
                Originally posted by ouman101
                Well, I'm sure this doesn't make you feel better, but I had St. Louis scores first. On the wager screen, it says nothing about pitchers, nor can you chose action or listed pitchers must start. Now all of a sudden that bet is canceled because Volquez didn't start. Does this seem right to everyone?
                This is a tough one too.
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                • ouman101
                  SBR MVP
                  • 12-02-09
                  • 2815

                  #9
                  Originally posted by NDIrish9
                  This is a tough one too.
                  Yeah, I've never had this happen before. I wonder if I would have bet Reds score first if my bet would have been canceled as well. Anyone bet Reds score first? What happened to your bet?
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                  • socalaaron
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                    • 07-22-09
                    • 200

                    #10
                    I am confused, Batista threw 4 pitches (walked a guy) then the rain delay happened and then McClellan pitched the rest of the game. I was on the Money line with the Cards. The bet was canceled after the rain delay. The ticket says 912 St. Louis Cardinals -128* vs Cincinnati Reds (E Volquez - R must Start K McClellan - R must Start) Status: Canceled. My question is, what is the right decision. This makes no sense.
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                    • socalaaron
                      Restricted User
                      • 07-22-09
                      • 200

                      #11
                      Now I see that Volquez was replaced as well.. This is the messiest game ever. Did anyone get action on this game?
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                      • NDIrish9
                        Restricted User
                        • 12-02-09
                        • 342

                        #12
                        Originally posted by socalaaron
                        Now I see that Volquez was replaced as well.. This is the messiest game ever. Did anyone get action on this game?
                        I have action ....bet Volquez +100 vs Batista -110.

                        They told me that the line for Maloney was +100 as well. What a bunch of horse shit.

                        Volquez- #1 starter. Maloney = garbage. Same line? With a lineup with Berkman, Holliday, Pujols, Freese, Molina from the right hand side vs. the lefty Maloney?

                        ******* crooks.
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                        • socalaaron
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                          • 07-22-09
                          • 200

                          #13
                          I had Cards -128 and the bet was canceled. Really want to make some sense of this.
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                          • Albert Pujols
                            SBR MVP
                            • 06-01-10
                            • 1670

                            #14
                            Originally posted by NDIrish9

                            I have action ....bet Volquez +100 vs Batista -110.

                            They told me that the line for Maloney was +100 as well. What a bunch of horse shit.

                            Volquez- #1 starter. Maloney = garbage. Same line? With a lineup with Berkman, Holliday, Pujols, Freese, Molina from the right hand side vs. the lefty Maloney?

                            ******* crooks.
                            They aren't crooks here. They had no choice. Not enough time to make a new line. Your fault for betting action. Lesson learned and move on.
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                            • Albert Pujols
                              SBR MVP
                              • 06-01-10
                              • 1670

                              #15
                              Never bet action. In essence you are telling the book that you still want to bet no matter the line, even if everything you took into account changes. That is insane.
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                              • Albert Pujols
                                SBR MVP
                                • 06-01-10
                                • 1670

                                #16
                                Originally posted by NDIrish9
                                How is the book correct?

                                Action: Any pitcher may start for either team. However, if there is a pitching change Action wagers will be computed with opening price of the new pitcher.

                                There WAS NO OPENING PRICE for Maloney because when the game started, Volquez was still the starting pitcher.
                                But he has to throw the first pitch and he didn't. So since they didn't know this in time to make a new line, they just kept the same line. Not ideal but action bettors have exactly that. Action.
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                                • BigDaddy
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 02-01-06
                                  • 8378

                                  #17
                                  04/22 07:19 PM PDT

                                  MLB pitching change

                                  Game #911 - 912

                                  Cincinnati Reds - M MALONEY -L for E VOLQUEZ -R



                                  04/22 07:22 pm pdt

                                  mlb

                                  game #911-912

                                  adjusted price

                                  stl -140
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                                  • ArunSh
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 09-24-07
                                    • 6801

                                    #18
                                    Very strange, I bet right before the game, but I guess that's still cancelled since they made another last minute switch due to the delay? Weird...
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                                    • Albert Pujols
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 06-01-10
                                      • 1670

                                      #19
                                      If your bet wins, then ask them to adjust the line to what other books had. If it loses, then you lose the same amount and it doesn't matter.
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                                      • Poker_Beast
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 09-14-06
                                        • 6545

                                        #20
                                        Had cards -1.5, +160

                                        Cancelled as well. Will probably blow it anyway.
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                                        • EasyCover
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 02-01-11
                                          • 621

                                          #21
                                          The pitcher has to pitch 1 pitch. Sucks cause I loved the Cards tonight. Oh well. On to the next one!
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