Everyone in the US should be pulling their money out of offshore accts ASAP..

[pennsylvania209]

Locals won't take my action.

[donkdown]

Received all my money today from the 3 books I play at. Walmart had to goto the safe to pay me. Collecting 3 moneygrams they looked at me funny.
It wasnt much, but I pulled my MLB bankroll of just under 5,500 and will sit back for a few weeks and watch. I was already up almost 500 on the year, which sucks I have to take a few week break

Smart man!! I'm not telling anyone what to do. Plz know that some of these banks and processors were 100% used from some of the best books out there. I to requested all my money. I am out more than 17k if you count my Poker accts and G o l d P a y! Enough is enough!! That doesnt even scratch the surface if i tell u how much I lost at Bet 911! Travis where u at u rat bastard!! I now understand why ppl do crazy things shit like this!!

[flyingillini]

You have nothing to worry about. The industry will never be stopped. Altered in ways, but never stopped.

[donkdown]

I mean SBR r u serious?? U wont let me type *******?? LOL protect these scammers some more!!

[No coincidences]

I think as long as you keep your balance manageable, you're OK.

If you're up big, get out.

[borednaz]

I got less than $200 in one book. If they take it, it will be for far less than what I just got robbed @ Full tilt for so screw it.

[bill2266]

Just live in vegas or reno

[warriorfan707]

Living in Nevada sucks ass

[blackbart]

its the end of the world,, as we know it

[unusialsusp5]

i don't see how a local can get caught...with cellphones abounding how will they know where the action is being taken? it seemingly used to be the only way they could get caught... a raid on someone's house working out of it...my bookie just sits at the race track all day taking bets with his trusty cellphone...a disposable one of course...

[Fishhead]

Living in Nevada sucks ass

It's a wonderful state.


One of the better states to live in the entire country.

[Ralphie Halves]

I've never heard any realistic, thought-out argument that would convince me to withdraw one cent of my offshore money. I have heard numerous logical arguments that show how there's little to no chance of our government taking the time and effort to go after offshore books when they have so little firepower and resources to do so.

[Ralphie Halves]

It's a wonderful state.


One of the better states to live in the entire country.

Yep, Vegas is fantastic. It does seem like everyone is on something certain days, but in a town with very little rules, you can just kinda make your own as you go along. There's happiness in that.

[frizzelli]

I've never heard any realistic, thought-out argument that would convince me to withdraw one cent of my offshore money. I have heard numerous logical arguments that show how there's little to no chance of our government taking the time and effort to go after offshore books when they have so little firepower and resources to do so.

You are just in denial like the rest of these numptys but at least you dont have much to lose.

[Ralphie Halves]

You are just in denial like the rest of these numptys but at least you dont have much to lose.

Again, not a strong or convincing argument.

[frizzelli]

Again, not a strong or convincing argument.

Why the fuk would I argue with you to pull your money out, my money is safe so its not an arguement its your money risk it, i just dont want to hear people complaining when it gets confiscated I dont want to fukkin hear it.

[MBENZ]

Alot of chicken littles in this thread.Play at the major books and your money is safe.

[Ralphie Halves]

Why the fuk would I argue with you to pull your money out, my money is safe so its not an arguement its your money risk it, i just dont want to hear people complaining when it gets confiscated I dont want to fukkin hear it.

Won't complain. I understand the risk.

It does make me scratch my head though how all of these gamblers, many of whom have bucked the mentality most Americans have (never take risks, always have a safety net, retire off of their 401K , pretty much live like pussies) and become serious bettors now run for the hills when something bad happens to a bunch of arrogant poker sites that did everything wrong when it came to covering their asses. If I'm wrong I'm wrong, but if the US government actually COULD do something to my 5Dimes and Greek accounts, logic would say it would just take too much effort and time to do so. +EV to assume that it aint happening.

[obamaismyuncle]

I recommend everyone stick to betting points, why not shoot for that Burger King gift card

it's funny I make this thread just to get a rise out of people to see how much they overreact, nobody knows what's gonna happen, nobody. If any books are targets I would think it'd be bookmaker, greek, 5dimes, betjam, etc. all the big ones..

forgot to add bodog...please please please take bodog..that book is garbage in every which way.

[lemart5]

I suggest we all start taking profits out of these books.

vI have been busy requesting checks from these books hell im even hearing whispers from my friends that a broad sweeping crackdown is on its way in the New York district.Money laundering charges abound .This is what happens when a government starts reaching for revenue streams.SBR employees shall soon be out of a job if this keeps up I have the feeling it is headed that way.My bag is pointing towards the exits up over $543,000 its been great while it lasted.

[lemart5]

Bank accounts have been seized as well.Full story here.

Baltimore Maryland - A federal grand jury has returned indictments charging two gambling businesses and three defendants with conducting an illegal gambling business and money laundering. The two indictments were returned on April 26, 2011 and unsealed today. As part of the investigation, 11 bank accounts located in Charlotte, North Carolina; Guam; Panama; Malta; Portugal; and the Netherlands; and domain names associated with 10 internet gambling sites were also seized today.
The following internet domain names were seized pursuant to court order:
Bookmaker.com
2Betsdi.com
Funtimebingo.com
Goldenarchcasino.com
Truepoker.com
Betmaker.com
Betgrandesports.com
Doylesroom.com
Betehorse.com
BetEd.com.
Anyone who tries to access those web sites will be directed instead to a banner that provides notice that the domain name has been seized by order of the court. The banners are expected to be posted later today.
ThrillX Systems, Ltd., d/b/a BetEd; Darren Wright; and David Parchomchuk, both of British Columbia, Canada are charged in one indictment. K23 Group Financial Services, d/b/a *****************; and Ann Marie Puig, age 35, of San Jose, Costa Rica are charged in a second indictment.


The indictments and seizures were announced by United States Attorney for the District of Maryland Rod J. Rosenstein; Special Agent in Charge William Winter of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, Homeland Security Investigations; Special Agent in Charge Rebecca Sparkman of the Internal Revenue Service - Criminal Investigation, Washington, D.C. Field Office; Anne Arundel County Police Chief James Teare, Sr.; and Colonel Terrence Sheridan, Superintendent of the Maryland State Police.
“It is illegal for internet gambling enterprises to do business in Maryland, regardless of where the website operator is located,” said U.S. Attorney Rod J. Rosenstein. “We cannot allow foreign website operators to flout the law simply because their headquarters are based outside the country.”
“These indictments are the direct result of impressive undercover investigative work by our agents, along with the close collaboration of our law enforcement partners here in Maryland,” said William Winter, Special Agent in Charge of ICE’s Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) in Baltimore. “The proceeds from illegal Internet gambling are often used to fuel organized crime and support criminal activity. ICE HSI will work diligently to uncover illicit transactions involving these types of financial crimes. Together, with our law enforcement partners, we will disrupt and dismantle organizations that commit these crimes, regardless of their location, whether here in the United States or abroad."
“Internet gambling, along with other types of illegal e-commerce, is an area of great interest to IRS Criminal Investigation,” said IRS Special Agent in Charge Rebecca A. Sparkman. “Laundering money from illegal activity such as illegal internet gambling is a crime. Regardless of how the money changes hands - via cash, check, wire transfers or ************ - and regardless of where the money is stored - in a United States financial institution or an offshore bank - we will trace the funds. IRS Criminal Investigation will vigorously investigate and recommend prosecution against the owners and operators of these illegal enterprises to the fullest extent possible.”
According to the two count indictments and the affidavit filed in support of the seizure warrants, ThrillX, a registered company in British Columbia, Canada, with offices in Vancouver, Canada and San Jose, Costa Rica, is a software solutions provider producing online sports book and casino software. *****************, based in Limassol, Cyprus, operates six websites that offer online sports betting services.
The indictments allege that the defendants own and manage illegal gambling businesses involving online sports betting. The affidavit alleges that online gambling sites are run by companies located outside of the U.S., while the majority of customers are in the U.S. Internet gambling operators rely upon the U.S. banking system, and more specifically, money-processing business generally called “payment processors,” to facilitate the movement of funds to and from their customers, the gamblers. Typically, an internet gambling operator directs the payment processor to collect funds from individual gamblers which are used to wager with the gambling organization. Those gambling proceeds are transferred to an offshore foreign bank. The internet gambling operator then sends a check or wire transfer from an offshore bank to the payment processor, directing the payment processor to distribute the money to gamblers for their winnings.
The affidavit filed in support of the seizure warrants alleges that Homeland Security Investigations in Baltimore, Maryland opened an undercover payment processor business, called Linwood Payment Solutions. Linwood allowed undercover agents to gain person-to-person contact with top managers of gambling organizations to discuss the Internet gambling business, to negotiate contracts and terms of the processing, and to handle the intricate movement and processing of collection and payment data from the gambling organizations to the banks.
The affidavit alleges that on November 12, 2009, a Maryland-based online gambler and cooperating informant confirmed that he/she frequented gambling sites, opened accounts and gambled in Maryland. The gambler agreed to set up online gambling accounts and was provided $500 to place bets on gambling websites. The gambler created an account on a BetEd website and placed several bets. On March 30, 2010, BetEd used Linwood to wire transfer $100 in winnings to the gambler’s bank account.
Linwood allegedly processed gambling transactions since 2009 for BetEd, K23 and other gambling organizations using banks located in Guam and Charlotte, North Carolina. According to the affidavit, between December 2009 and January 2011, Linwood processed over 300,000 transactions worth more than $33 million, including transactions for individuals in Maryland. Between February 2010 and March 2011 alone, BetEd directed Linwood to wire transfer over $2.5 million of collected gambling proceeds to bank accounts in Panama; and between February 2011 and April 2011, K23 directed Linwood to wire transfer over $91,000 of gambling proceeds to bank accounts in Portugal and Malta.
The indictments and affidavit seek the forfeiture of the bank accounts used to process the gambling transactions, as well as domain names of websites used by the defendants to further the online gambling transactions.
The defendants face a maximum sentence of five years in prison for operating an illegal gambling business and a maximum of 20 years in prison for money laundering. No court appearance has been scheduled.
An indictment is not a finding of guilt. An individual charged by indictment is presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty at some later criminal proceedings.
United States Attorney Rod J. Rosenstein praised the agents from ICE-Homeland Security Investigations in Baltimore, Los Angeles, New Orleans and Philadelphia; IRS-Criminal Investigation; the Anne Arundel County Police Department; and the Maryland State Police for their work in the investigation. Mr. Rosenstein thanked Assistant United States Attorney Richard C. Kay, who is prosecuting the case.

[spankie]

$543 maybe.

[Ninersnut]

Up over half a mil. I love it.

[Inkwell77]

Get your money out, y'all!
The only safe place is Vegas.

[lemart5]

Up over half a mil. I love it.

Yep .

[Ninersnut]

Good thing you don't need offshore, you probably got a nice credit line on the Strip.

[milwaukee mike]

they needed an "informant" for a year and a half to realize that online sportsbooks were using banks?

[BrianLaverty]

"The affidavit alleges that on November 12, 2009, a Maryland-based online gambler and cooperating informant confirmed that he/she frequented gambling sites, opened accounts and gambled in Maryland. The gambler agreed to set up online gambling accounts and was provided $500 to place bets on gambling websites. The gambler created an account on a BetEd website and placed several bets. On March 30, 2010, BetEd used Linwood to wire transfer $100 in winnings to the gambler’s bank account.
Linwood allegedly processed gambling transactions since 2009 for BetEd, K23 and other gambling organizations using banks located in Guam and Charlotte, North Carolina. According to the affidavit, between December 2009 and January 2011, Linwood processed over 300,000 transactions worth more than $33 million, including transactions for individuals in Maryland. Between February 2010 and March 2011 alone, BetEd directed Linwood to wire transfer over $2.5 million of collected gambling proceeds to bank accounts in Panama; and between February 2011 and April 2011, K23 directed Linwood to wire transfer over $91,000 of gambling proceeds to bank accounts in Portugal and Malta."


And people wonder why sites are stopping access to new US players....

[lemart5]

they needed an "informant" for a year and a half to realize that online sportsbooks were using banks?

Boy we are screwed.

[lemart5]

Good thing you don't need offshore, you probably got a nice credit line on the Strip.

@Bellagio gave me a $5 Million Line I maxed it once.

[d2bets]

But it looks like maybe they only got to a few minor accounts. Seems like the scope of the accounts that were seized on 4/15 poker sites was much much bigger.

[Maniac]

Looks a very tough time to be a US Bettor - best of luck and hope everyone who cashes out get all their money, but no doubt the Govt will find some way to screw the players

[Ninersnut]

[onetrickpony]

i agree taylor, hope u get paid bro thats alot to lose

[lemart5]

I think more will fall please take Betus away .