Definition of a fix

jw · 04-11-11, 01:26 PM

Originally posted by daimoshokage

WTF.. a soccer apologist.. so you're saying that this game was fixed.. the 2nd goal was so fixed that they did it with 10 men against 11..

Correct .. I personally do not believe that this particular game was fixed ...

There are of course fixed games out there - but they generally involve irregular betting patterns ... this one as far as I know did not ... and watching the game last night everything blew up - emotions were running very high (with the red cards) - concentration was running very low (anger and frustration) and it was primed for something like this to happen.

Are some games fixed -- sure they are ... but not nearly as many as some people on this forum would have you believe.

**Vaughany** · 04-11-11, 01:37 PM

Originally posted by D3 Mighty Ducks

Weird match but judging from the highlights from that youtube video I can't see anything fixed..Or maybe I'm just blind.

But I'll be the first one to admit the Italian soccer league is fixed.

Ur just not retarded tht is all!

**JOHON8** · 04-11-11, 01:42 PM

We got another one today, starts right now actually.

**yisman** · 04-11-11, 01:46 PM

JOHON, try elaborating.

**JOHON8** · 04-11-11, 01:47 PM

Originally posted by yisman

JOHON, try elaborating.

modena-atalanta
2:45 et us time

draw sits at close to -200 right now.

**flyingillini** · 04-11-11, 10:39 PM

Originally posted by RoagBettor

www.howtofixasoccergame.com

Declan Hill is the man.

**yisman** · 04-11-11, 10:42 PM

Originally posted by JOHON8

modena-atalanta
2:45 et us time

draw sits at close to -200 right now.

Atalanta won 2-1. Not much of a fix there.

**Ace_of_Spades** · 04-11-11, 10:45 PM

Originally posted by yisman

Atalanta won 2-1. Not much of a fix there.

Sampdoria was a fix. The odds were so shit on the draw, the fix was in. Was surpised it ended a draw. Thought they would try and make it not so obvious.

**JOHON8** · 04-11-11, 11:11 PM

Originally posted by yisman

Atalanta won 2-1. Not much of a fix there.

Only if predicting a fix was that easy huh.

Not everyone is in on a fix, you can't make it obvious otherwise you couldn't get away with it. I've seen plenty of these types of games get screwed in the last minute. 1-1 at the 80th min. this game was pretty standard until someone got an easy chance in the last minute.

If you're serious about understanding this world I recommend you google Declan Hill. The #1 goal is to hide a fixed game from the public, but it's impossible to hide it in the market place.

**ncsubowen** · 04-11-11, 11:17 PM

Originally posted by yisman

Yeah, this was ridiculous. No way a team down 2 men outscores their opponent 2-0.

In stoppage time no less. Having played as a goalie in soccer for 12+ years, I have certainly had times where a shot was so well placed that diving for it is pointless. If you have a good defense, they understand that - the fans may want to see some effort, but at some point there's just no reason. In that last shot, the placement (going far post, catching it in the side net, etc) there was virtually nothing the keeper could have done. Especially with the pressure coming in, if he had cut the shooter's angle he might have had a chance, however, he would have let the man crashing the back have a wide open angle on it.

Chance things happen. Certainly we've all seen crazy ends to games, just cause it didn't go your way doesn't necessarily mean it was a fix (although as we've seen before it could have been).

**flyingillini** · 04-11-11, 11:26 PM

Good video

**clip1** · 04-11-11, 11:55 PM

this looked more then 2-2 final i saw at least 6 goals scored no?

**Ace_of_Spades** · 04-11-11, 11:57 PM

Originally posted by clip1

this looked more then 2-2 final i saw 5 goals scored no?

I don't understand.

**clip1** · 04-11-11, 11:58 PM

in this highlights i saw 6 goals scored or more did it end 2-2?

**clip1** · 04-11-11, 11:58 PM

fix

**Ace_of_Spades** · 04-12-11, 12:00 AM

Originally posted by clip1

in this highlights i saw atleast 6 goals scored did it end 2-2?

It ended 2-2. The fix was in. Players just stood around when those goals went in.

**clip1** · 04-12-11, 12:12 AM

i saw that happen before i was on the game and there was no bussines for a team to score anymore they where up 2-0 but yet in added time they score 3 more within 4 minutes to finish 5-0 ******* goalie just stood and look at the ball pass by him last two times, nothing new it looked fixed too but then again he was not expecting it, fycking brazilizn soccer, thats why i like spanish and portugal soccer they look most legit for now

**Smogs** · 04-12-11, 12:18 AM

Are the italians aware of these fixes or are they oblivious?

**Going4Broke** · 04-12-11, 12:20 AM

What about UCSD? 9 or 10 people and a coach involved? fixed college hoops, they were just indicted.

**Slainte** · 04-12-11, 01:08 AM

You don't fix games with two goals in the very last minute because everything is possible and they don't have enough time to adjust any mistakes.
It's like fixing a basketball game with a buzzer beater for 0.5 point - ridiculous.
Fixed games don't look suspicious at all, having few goals in the 60-70 minute, slow tempo, easy going game only few people involved usually the goalie, two defenders and one-two midfielders.

**Ace_of_Spades** · 04-12-11, 01:27 AM

The goalie or defenders didn't even move to try and stop the goals. Not even flinch. The goalie could have easily stopped the 1st Cesena goal. The gap left open was rediculous.

**Nard Dog** · 04-12-11, 01:36 AM

This should be investigated, United did it versus Bayern but they weren't 9 vs 11.

**Vaughany** · 04-12-11, 05:32 AM

Originally posted by Nard Dog

This should be investigated, United did it versus Bayern but they weren't 9 vs 11.

Neither wer Cesena...2 of the players sent off werent even playing...u lot should try actually watching the game!

**Vaughany** · 04-12-11, 05:34 AM

Originally posted by ncsubowen

In stoppage time no less. Having played as a goalie in soccer for 12+ years, I have certainly had times where a shot was so well placed that diving for it is pointless. If you have a good defense, they understand that - the fans may want to see some effort, but at some point there's just no reason. In that last shot, the placement (going far post, catching it in the side net, etc) there was virtually nothing the keeper could have done. Especially with the pressure coming in, if he had cut the shooter's angle he might have had a chance, however, he would have let the man crashing the back have a wide open angle on it.

Chance things happen. Certainly we've all seen crazy ends to games, just cause it didn't go your way doesn't necessarily mean it was a fix (although as we've seen before it could have been).

Some sense at last