Does Butler have a deal with the devil or what?

**Powderguy** · 03-19-11, 08:38 PM

these fags have alot of luck, make clutch shots

**JT OZ** · 03-19-11, 08:38 PM

Originally posted by No coincidences

He's a good coach, but man this team has been lucky over the past two years. I'm sorry, but Stevens didn't draw up that fluke play that just happened to land in Howard's hands at the end of the ODU game. Come to think of it, maybe it's Howard that has a deal with the devil.

Sure seems like it.

**EaglesPhan36** · 03-19-11, 08:38 PM

Brad Stevens is Satan. He's really 66 years old.

**hoya** · 03-19-11, 08:39 PM

A blatant foul should be called no matter when it happens. This swallow the whistle because it's in the final seconds stuff is bullshit. Terrible play by Butler, worse play by Pitt.

**kernssca** · 03-19-11, 08:40 PM

Yeah I should have respected their intelligence because that matters a lot in the tournament. Also watched my bracket go from 1 wrong in the 1st day to now missing 3 sweet 16 team

**Chuck Sims** · 03-19-11, 08:40 PM

Originally posted by CappinTerp

Why did the Pitt player not get 3 foul shots.???

Pitt player was not in the act of shooting.

**757sFinest** · 03-19-11, 08:42 PM

Originally posted by No coincidences

You don't call fouls on either one of those plays in the final 5 seconds of a game.

Why? They say you shoud let the players decide the end of games and not the refs. Bull. When and player decides to run straight into a player crossing half court, guess whatt he just decided to commit that foul and in turn has decided the game. When that ball came off the rim abd nasir tomahawked his arms, guess what, he made that choice and hell yes the refs should call that. He made the choice of fouling.

**doublej95** · 03-19-11, 08:42 PM

They don't have a deal with a Blue Devil.

**KingKolzig** · 03-19-11, 08:42 PM

Originally posted by gryfyn1

nope both were too obvious, if you're going to let those slide you may as well just them bearhug guys on the ground for last 5 seconds.

thats so true no coincid has no idea what he is talking about. mack trucked into the guy at full speed, gave him no chance to make a basketball play. and howards arm was slashed. both are fouls, both are stupid plays by the defense and must be called.

**Chuck Sims** · 03-19-11, 08:45 PM

Both calls were correct. Don't blame the refs. Ask why both these neanderthals are committing fouls. The Pitt player who fouled Howard is the biggest idiot. Can he be any more stupid?

**No coincidences** · 03-19-11, 08:45 PM

Originally posted by 757sFinest

Why? They say you shoud let the players decide the end of games and not the refs. Bull. When and player decides to run straight into a player crossing half court, guess whatt he just decided to commit that foul and in turn has decided the game. When that ball came off the rim abd nasir tomahawked his arms, guess what, he made that choice and hell yes the refs should call that. He made the choice of fouling.

Have you ever played basketball?

**CarpeDime** · 03-19-11, 08:47 PM

is this sh*t fixed?

YES

HELLO GET WITH THE PROGRAM

hello mcfly hello mcfly THIS SH*T IS FIXED

**Cuse0323** · 03-19-11, 08:49 PM

Their secret is Howard blows the refs before the game.

**face** · 03-19-11, 08:56 PM

this was an awesome game, the end was really fukked up, but for most of the game I was really enjoying watching these two teams battle. I was actually sorry someone had to lose. I was kinda pulling for Butler though. these teams remind me of texas, big, hyper, and good.

**Macnqueso** · 03-19-11, 08:58 PM

bracket buster

**Prop Bet Master** · 03-19-11, 09:01 PM

First big blow to my bracket. Like an idiot, I picked Pittsburgh to make it to the Final Four.

**KingKolzig** · 03-19-11, 09:09 PM

wisconsin will be -3 over them and will crush them. mack isnt going 21/23 from deep ever again

**gamble** · 03-19-11, 10:18 PM

ridiculous ending, gotta feel bad for the pitt player, just trying to get the ball

**szk1983** · 03-19-11, 10:28 PM

they are just an incredibly disciplined, well coached team.

**ThaddeusB** · 03-19-11, 10:47 PM

Originally posted by TPowell

they have one of the best coaches in basketball. THATS WHY

**cbiscuit** · 03-19-11, 11:28 PM

Originally posted by szk1983

they are just an incredibly disciplined, well coached team.

So few giving these guys due credit. They proved to be Pitt's equal tonight, they had Duke on the ropes in last years Final and just missed with the knockout punch. They are right where they deserve to be now.

**NardVa** · 03-19-11, 11:37 PM

Th Game should have went to OT. That call on Pitt was cheap. You can make a case that the call on Butler was cheap but the call on Butler was preventing Pitt from taking a an attempt at a game winning shot where as the call on Pitt was not preventing any real shot from happening.

**ThaddeusB** · 03-19-11, 11:51 PM

Originally posted by NardVa

Th Game should have went to OT. That call on Pitt was cheap. You can make a case that the call on Butler was cheap but the call on Butler was preventing Pitt from taking a an attempt at a game winning shot where as the call on Pitt was not preventing any real shot from happening.

That is ridiculous logic. 90% of the time, they don't call that foul on Butler, but by the books it is a foul. If they are going to call it by the book to the finish, then they must do so for both teams. And yes the call against Pitt was also a clear foul by the book.

Pitt fans need to realize that they can't have it both ways.

**THE HITMAN** · 03-19-11, 11:56 PM

Originally posted by Illusion

Officials should have swallowed their whistles on both calls.

This is the legitimate answer

**ebbearsfb1** · 03-20-11, 01:17 AM

How the hell did howard not go to duke? Flops around like a fish out of water, ncaa loves the white guys duke butler wisconsin byu get every call on the planet gonna be duke byu final, refs. Have ruined march madness this year, lousy job, college is justed as fixed as the nba.. if you honestly think those needed to be called then you have never played in a bball league

**chemicalbrother** · 03-20-11, 01:33 AM

Originally posted by THE HITMAN

This is the legitimate answer

obviously.

that said, for those of us that didn't have a cent on the game, this way was much, much more fun to watch.

**Mac4Lyfe** · 03-20-11, 01:39 AM

Originally posted by Chuck Sims

Pitt player was not in the act of shooting.

But Howard was in the act of shooting when he got fouled. I'm surprised they didn't give him 3 shots??

**Jakesteen** · 03-20-11, 01:44 AM

Makes you wonder doesn't it?

**ronjon619** · 03-20-11, 01:45 AM

Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

But Howard was in the act of shooting when he got fouled. I'm surprised they didn't give him 3 shots??

they called the bump before the shot and they were in the double bonus, so only 2 FT's.

**JNic** · 03-20-11, 01:50 AM

i can see the mack foul not being called but it really prevented him from getting a shot. the foul on nasir robinson was just unbelievable... like i see it was a foul but we gotta let it go to ot

**Mac4Lyfe** · 03-20-11, 01:56 AM

Originally posted by ronjon619

they called the bump before the shot and they were in the double bonus, so only 2 FT's.

He caught the rebound and hoisted the ball side armed immediately. I guess there's no such thing as in the act of shooting?

**Pajda** · 03-20-11, 02:05 AM

That was the most bizarre end of basketball game I've ever seen.

**ronjon619** · 03-20-11, 02:09 AM

Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

He caught the rebound and hoisted the ball side armed immediately. I guess there's no such thing as in the act of shooting?

I thought he meant the 1st foul.

**Jive** · 03-20-11, 02:30 AM

I agree that Butler is lucky as snot, but they put themselves in the position to be lucky. I'm an ODU guy and when it was close at the end the other day, I knew they'd find a way to beat us. They do a great job of giving themselves a chance to be lucky, so they deserve some credit.

Luck aside, let's not forget that this team has 4 starters back from the squad that was a 1/4 inch from winning the whole thing last year. This is a good team, and it isn't a surprise at all that they are in the Sweet 16. To me, the surprise was that they struggled so much during the regular season that they only got an 8 seed.

**VegasInsider** · 03-20-11, 02:54 AM

A foul is the same 2 seconds into the game or with 2 seconds left in the game. Both were fouls and I have no problem with either. Butler deserved to win the game