Bottom half of Florida's bracket is so weak...

**LT Profits** · 03-13-11, 09:10 PM

I agree but they'll lose to Pitt in Elite Eight

**Louisvillekid1** · 03-13-11, 09:15 PM

they will be lucky to get to the elite 8 even still

**TPowell** · 03-13-11, 09:16 PM

Florida's not good enough to just roll over and beat UCLA or MSU but if they do, they could potentially see Wofford IMO. St Johns is done without Kennedy and Gonzaga just flat out isn't that great.

**fults400** · 03-13-11, 09:19 PM

I think MSU could give florida trouble. Always seem to find a little extra once tourney time comes around.

**Jonah** · 03-13-11, 09:37 PM

This whole section of the bracket is a joke.

**Mac4Lyfe** · 03-13-11, 09:43 PM

I agree that UF looks to have an easy bracket but you never know. Have you looked at UNC? How did they get to be a #2 seed? They were 2-4 against RPI top 50.

Florida was 11-3 vs RPI top 50, higher #5 SOS than all the other #2's, plus won the SEC. Kentucky sucked on the road and deserved the #4. UK 9-5 against top 50.

UF also went 8-2 on the road and 4-2 on neutral courts. Also went 13-3 in a conference. Beat KSU at a neutral site (who beat Texas), Xavier in Cincy, FSU in Tally (they beat Duke at home), Moorehead state who's in the tourney, etc. Who would you put in front of UF as a #2?

Here are the 2's with their SOS and RPI. UF is ahead of all the other 2's in SOS and ahead of ND in RPI. Maybe everyone should be questioning ND but UF is a legit #2. Body of work my friends... UK fans should shut the hell up because they lose on all accounts including the sham of a game today buying off the refs...

SOS, RPI
UF 5, 7

ND 20, 8
SDSU 22, 3
UNC 10, 6

**Mac4Lyfe** · 03-13-11, 09:50 PM

Southeast appears to be the weakest but I bet the winner there will play for the title. Watch. I also think the committee looks at story lines. I got this off another forum.

UF's second round opponent will be either UCLA (who Florida took out in both of the national title years 2006-2007) or Michigan State (who beat Florida in the 2000 title game). The Denver pod contains Gonzaga, who famously beat Florida in 1999, and BYU, who took out the Gators last year (and I was hoping I’d never have to see Jimmer again). And the top half of the bracket features Butler, who UF beat in both the second national title run and in 2000 with the help of Mike Miller’s famous last second shot.

RPI's by region...

East - 37.3
West - 37.8
Southwest - 42.4
Southeast - 43.4

**JMUplayer** · 03-13-11, 09:57 PM

That's why i really like Pittsburgh as a futures bet for value...........

**Mac4Lyfe** · 03-13-11, 10:03 PM

Originally posted by JMUplayer

That's why i really like Pittsburgh as a futures bet for value...........

I think Pitt goes down to either Butler or Wisconsin.

**Brp27345** · 03-13-11, 10:06 PM

overall the East sucks... bottom of Florida's bracket is weak... but so are they...

I honestly think they are setting up the bracket so the Jimmer story has a shot to taking off... trust me "they" want Jimmer in the Elite 8... and what "they" want "they" often get in regards to viewership of the games!

**tblues2005** · 03-13-11, 10:49 PM

I think that the east isn't very strong either.

**Fed_42420** · 03-13-11, 10:53 PM

Florida won't make it past UCLA, they may lose their first game.

**beerman2619** · 03-13-11, 10:59 PM

well should be a good tourney.

**fury** · 03-13-11, 11:05 PM

Worst bracket IMO. I'd like to see Utah St. make a run.

**Art Vandelay** · 03-13-11, 11:26 PM

How is FLA a #2 seed??? Kentucky beat them 2 ot of 3, is ranked just a few spots below them, and has been as hot as anybody in the country. Yet UK is a #4 seed and FLA a #2 - C'mon...

**TrapperDapper** · 03-13-11, 11:40 PM

Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

I think Pitt goes down to either Butler or Wisconsin.

Doubt it. Butler is overrated because of last year. They don't play any defense now. And Wisky can't put the ball in the basket against Penn State than they won't be able to against the best team in Pennsylvania.

**stogies** · 03-14-11, 06:52 AM

kansas state beats florida in the southeast to go to final 4.

**k13** · 03-14-11, 07:09 AM

Everyone is weak...

People would be millionaire's if all your confident predictions were so easy.

**k13** · 03-14-11, 07:15 AM

Yet Pinny only has them +1713 to win. wtf

**WeinketoWarrick** · 03-14-11, 07:15 AM

Yeah not sure who sucked dick in the committee for Florida's sake...no way they should have been a #2, and then gotten that easy of a draw on top of it...

**HotStreak** · 03-14-11, 07:21 AM

Originally posted by WeinketoWarrick

Yeah not sure who sucked dick in the committee for Florida's sake...no way they should have been a #2, and then gotten that easy of a draw on top of it...

Erin Andrews is a Florida alum. Just sayin....

**ex50warrior** · 03-14-11, 07:22 AM

Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

I agree that UF looks to have an easy bracket but you never know. Have you looked at UNC? How did they get to be a #2 seed? They were 2-4 against RPI top 50.

Florida was 11-3 vs RPI top 50, higher #5 SOS than all the other #2's, plus won the SEC. Kentucky sucked on the road and deserved the #4. UK 9-5 against top 50.

UF also went 8-2 on the road and 4-2 on neutral courts. Also went 13-3 in a conference. Beat KSU at a neutral site (who beat Texas), Xavier in Cincy, FSU in Tally (they beat Duke at home), Moorehead state who's in the tourney, etc. Who would you put in front of UF as a #2?

Here are the 2's with their SOS and RPI. UF is ahead of all the other 2's in SOS and ahead of ND in RPI. Maybe everyone should be questioning ND but UF is a legit #2. Body of work my friends... UK fans should shut the hell up because they lose on all accounts including the sham of a game today buying off the refs...

SOS, RPI
UF 5, 7

ND 20, 8
SDSU 22, 3
UNC 10, 6

Hmm, good points. I'll quit complaining about FL's seed.

**starfire** · 03-14-11, 08:07 AM

Originally posted by Fed_42420

Florida won't make it past UCLA

Ucla fight fight fight

**waco66** · 03-14-11, 08:10 AM

Florida aint getting poast nd

**jgray** · 03-14-11, 08:37 AM

Originally posted by ex50warrior

Hmm, good points. I'll quit complaining about FL's seed.

Agree. Mac's made a solid argument. Those that are critical of FL's seed should try to back up their position as effectively rather than scream "we waz robbed!"

**thaman79** · 03-14-11, 08:46 AM

I love this time of year. Everyone saying who won't do this. Who will do that. Remember Butler last year guys? That's all I have to say. Good luck to all.

**blackbart** · 03-14-11, 09:03 AM

from ken pom

The numbers in each table represent the chance in percent of a team advancing to the round in question.
Rd3 Sweet16 Elite8 Final4 Final Champ 1 in...
1. 1E Ohio St. 98.9 83.2 62.0 47.7 30.9 21.6 5
2. 1W Duke 98.3 84.5 56.5 40.3 23.5 15.3 7
3. 1SW Kansas 96.9 72.6 52.4 35.0 23.6 12.4 8
4. 1SE Pittsburgh 95.1 76.5 47.4 31.8 16.8 7.5 13
5. 4W Texas 86.8 67.9 32.0 20.4 10.2 5.8 17
6. 3SW Purdue 91.8 68.0 41.8 20.9 12.0 5.1 20
7. 2W San Diego St. 92.7 70.1 47.1 20.7 9.5 5.0 20
8. 2SW Notre Dame 91.3 66.6 36.2 16.8 9.1 3.5 28
9. 4E Kentucky 88.7 61.0 23.1 13.9 6.5 3.4 30
10. 3SE Brigham Young 85.4 55.7 35.4 17.0 7.5 2.7 37
11. 4SW Louisville 87.6 60.8 25.2 13.0 6.8 2.5 39
12. 3E Syracuse 90.1 62.2 35.2 12.9 5.4 2.5 40
13. 4SE Wisconsin 61.0 38.5 20.4 12.8 6.2 2.5 40
14. 2E North Carolina 89.7 52.4 28.6 9.7 3.8 1.6 61
15. 2SE Florida 87.8 57.8 29.4 12.2 4.6 1.4 73
16. 3W Connecticut 83.3 48.3 22.1 7.2 2.5 1.0 101
17. 7E Washington 72.7 37.7 19.7 6.3 2.3 1.0 104
18. 12SE Utah St. 60.1 26.9 11.9 6.4 2.5 0.8 125
19. 13SE Belmont 39.0 20.5 8.7 4.6 1.7 0.5 189
20. 9SW Illinois 51.7 14.4 7.0 2.9 1.3 0.4 276
21. 6W Cincinnati 56.6 28.7 11.8 3.3 1.0 0.4 281
22. 11SE Gonzaga 53.0 22.2 11.1 3.9 1.2 0.3 338
23. 8SW UNLV 48.3 12.8 6.0 2.4 1.0 0.3 363
24. 5E West Virginia 57.6 22.3 5.5 2.4 0.7 0.3 373
25. 5W Arizona 76.8 24.1 6.1 2.4 0.6 0.2 482
26. 6SW Georgetown 60.9 20.0 8.0 2.4 0.8 0.2 506
27. 6SE St. John's 47.0 18.5 8.7 2.8 0.8 0.2 550
28. 5SW Vanderbilt 55.7 21.3 5.6 2.0 0.7 0.2 620
29. 5SE Kansas St. 39.9 14.0 5.0 2.2 0.7 0.2 626
30. 11E Marquette 52.5 19.4 7.5 1.7 0.4 0.1 762
31. 10SE Michigan St. 55.0 22.9 8.6 2.5 0.6 0.1 765
32. 11W Missouri 43.4 19.3 6.8 1.6 0.4 0.1 833
33. 8E George Mason 50.5 8.5 3.2 1.3 0.4 0.1 890
34. 12E Clemson 30.9 11.3 2.6 1.1 0.3 0.1 947
35. 9E Villanova 49.5 8.2 3.1 1.2 0.3 0.1 963
36. 6E Xavier 47.5 16.5 6.0 1.3 0.3 0.09 1167
37. 10SW Florida St. 50.8 16.2 5.2 1.4 0.4 0.09 1173
38. 7W Temple 51.0 14.7 6.0 1.3 0.3 0.08 1183
39. 7SW Texas A&M 49.2 15.4 4.9 1.2 0.4 0.07 1337
40. 10W Penn St. 49.0 13.8 5.5 1.2 0.3 0.07 1407
41. 12SW Richmond 44.3 14.9 3.4 1.0 0.3 0.06 1657
42. 8W Michigan 56.8 9.5 2.9 0.9 0.2 0.06 1761
43. 7SE UCLA 45.0 16.8 5.6 1.4 0.3 0.05 1841
44. 11SW USC 31.6 9.1 3.2 0.8 0.3 0.05 1928
45. 9SE Old Dominion 51.1 11.8 3.5 1.2 0.3 0.05 2035
46. 8SE Butler 48.9 10.9 3.1 1.0 0.2 0.04 2506
47. 10E Georgia 27.3 8.4 2.5 0.4 0.08 0.02 6107
48. 9W Tennessee 43.2 5.9 1.5 0.4 0.07 0.02 6151
49. 12E UAB 11.5 2.9 0.4 0.1 0.02 0.005 21266
50. 13W Oakland 13.2 4.9 0.7 0.2 0.02 0.004 24675
51. 14SE Wofford 14.6 3.6 0.9 0.1 0.02 0.001 67960
52. 12W Memphis 23.2 3.1 0.3 0.05 0.006 0.0008 131751
53. 14W Bucknell 16.7 3.6 0.6 0.06 0.006 0.0007 142009
54. 13SW Morehead St. 12.4 3.0 0.3 0.04 0.006 0.0005 192702
55. 13E Princeton 11.3 2.5 0.2 0.04 0.004 0.0005 195063
56. 11SW VCU 7.5 1.2 0.2 0.03 0.005 0.0005 203187
57. 14SW St. Peter's 8.2 1.7 0.2 0.02 0.003 0.0002 560787
58. 15SE UC Santa Barbara 12.2 2.6 0.3 0.03 0.003 0.0002 624434
59. 14E Indiana St. 9.9 1.9 0.3 0.02 0.001 0.0001 751535
60. 15SW Akron 8.7 1.8 0.2 0.02 0.002 0.0001 854892
61. 15W Northern Colorado 7.3 1.4 0.2 0.01 0.001 <0.0001 1178554
62. 15E Long Island 10.3 1.5 0.2 0.01 0.0009 <0.0001 1216609
63. 16SE UNC Asheville 4.0 0.8 0.08 0.009 0.0007 <0.0001 2883054
64. 16SW Boston U. 3.1 0.3 0.02 0.002 0.0001 <0.0001 24701695
65. 16W Hampton 1.7 0.2 0.008 0.0004 <0.0001 <0.0001 261976455
66. 16SE Ark. Little Rock 0.9 0.09 0.004 0.0003 <0.0001 <0.0001 454126213
67. 16E Texas San Antonio 0.9 0.06 0.002 0.0001 <0.0001 <0.0001 1028345510
68. 16E Alabama St. 0.1 0.003 <0.001 <0.0001 <0.0001 <0.0001 1090873445634

**letsgo** · 03-14-11, 09:04 AM

Good info

**blackbart** · 03-14-11, 09:04 AM

note fla with 15th best chance to win
and utah st with 18th

**Mac4Lyfe** · 03-14-11, 10:03 AM

Originally posted by blackbart

note fla with 15th best chance to win
and utah st with 18th

So when did Kenpom become the standard for NCAA bracketing? UNC is #14, Uconn is #17. What's your point?

Here's all I need to know about Kenpom. They have Tenn at 55, Belmont at 18. Yet UT beat Belmont twice and beat VCU, Villanova, Pitt, Memphis.

Vandy beat Belmont and is ranked 32 on Kenpom and beat UNC, Marquette OOC.

Who do you think has the best chance of going deep in the tourney??? Belmont or Vandy, UT or UF??

I love the tourney because unlike football you have to play the games. All I hear is how great the Big East is but every year they lay an egg and don't bring home a title. Even though they get 1/6 of the total field (10+ teams every year) they've won 2 titles in the last 25 years?

The Gators have as many titles in the last 5 years as the Big East has in the last 25. The SEC has as many titles as the Big East and the Big10 combined in that same time frame. The SEC has had limited number of teams get in every year but still win more titles than both the Big East and B10. The SEC whipped up on the Big East this year in OOC matchups, yet the Big East supposedly is the best conference??? If your suppose to be the best then you need to win titles. The Big East is a Big Fail in that regard.

Excuse me if I don't bow down to the east coast media.

**stevenash** · 03-14-11, 10:06 AM

Originally posted by TPowell

St Johns is done without Kennedy

your first round fade.

**stevenash** · 03-14-11, 10:07 AM

Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

So when did Kenpom become the standard for NCAA bracketing? UNC is #14, Uconn is #17. What's your point?

Here's all I need to know about Kenpom. They have Tenn at 55, Belmont at 18. Yet UT beat Belmont twice and beat VCU, Villanova, Pitt, Memphis.

KenPom is a joke.

**Snowball** · 03-14-11, 10:13 AM

Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

I think Pitt goes down to either Butler or Wisconsin.

I think PITT can win it all, never mind getting by those scrubs !

**agharah1** · 03-14-11, 10:30 AM

In 2003, Florida was the #2 seed playing their 2nd round game in Tampa vs. Michigan State. MSU won 68-46. Tom Izzo pwns Billy Donovan, and we all know Florida is capable of losing to some pretty bad teams (Jacksonville, UCF, South Carolina at home, @ Mississippi State).