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  • donkdown
    Restricted User
    • 07-09-09
    • 4423

    #1
    True Poker and BWIN allow 100% poker collusion
    It's been proven that bwin will let you sit at your house with your friend or whoever and play at the same table from the same IP.. Truepoker is also guilty of this!! 5dimes Bookmaker and any book worth a shit uses TP as there poker provider care to address this SBR!! There is actual video of this that I have obtained of ppl doing this!!
  • donkdown
    Restricted User
    • 07-09-09
    • 4423

    #2
    Now we know why Penny and Anglor always win on TP this is daming evidence way worse than anything Pittbull poker did. I now want every penny I lost back at TP as should all of you!!
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    • ttwarrior1
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 06-23-09
      • 28456

      #3
      agree with you 100 percent. I even know of someone that played same tourney from bookmaker and true poker.

      Or he would register and if he got knocked out of one,he would log into the other, no idea how he did it with same ip. but he somehow had a different name and ip or something on the other accounts.

      Have you noticed how many players from charlotte and guaya whatever city on the network

      I still play there however
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      • ttwarrior1
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 06-23-09
        • 28456

        #4
        im interested in the vid
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        • donkdown
          Restricted User
          • 07-09-09
          • 4423

          #5
          I cant embed it here I obtained video of both sites doing this and it is 100% legit!! This is very disturbing!! True Poker actually blocks u from same IP but guy shows how easy he manipulates there software over a 2 week period and never anything happens as he plays from 2 different cpus raising like a mad man on a 3 handed table controlling 2 guys!! Bwin u can just sit at your house with same Ip on 2 different cpus.. This is bad!!
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          • donkdown
            Restricted User
            • 07-09-09
            • 4423

            #6
            Adrian u better get your ass in here and address this!!
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            • cankid
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 08-22-08
              • 7222

              #7
              disturbing news if its true
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              • Mews
                SBR Rookie
                • 03-28-11
                • 2

                #8
                Donkdown is right

                You can watch the video here

                http://vimeo.com/20852384
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                • Roxxyfish
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 06-26-09
                  • 12066

                  #9
                  True Poker I dont know, bwin definately not u can sign up at the same tourney with other ongame accounts but you can playonly 1at a time,i have accounts evrywhere ar Ongame bwin betsson hollywoodpoker red kings and some more
                  Originally posted by donkdown
                  It's been proven that bwin will let you sit at your house with your friend or whoever and play at the same table from the same IP.. Truepoker is also guilty of this!! 5dimes Bookmaker and any book worth a shit uses TP as there poker provider care to address this SBR!! There is actual video of this that I have obtained of ppl doing this!!
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                  • Poker_Beast
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 09-14-06
                    • 6545

                    #10
                    Shit is unreal
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                    • BranchDavidian
                      SBR MVP
                      • 08-29-10
                      • 1014

                      #11
                      My results at online poker have been getting worse for the last couple of years. Perhaps this is why! Maybe it is time to go back to the casinos.
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                      • Wulfman14
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 08-24-10
                        • 8869

                        #12
                        i wouldnt be surprised. some weird stuff happens at the table when i play at five dimes poker or bookmaker poker (same provider). i dont play there anymore. here at sbr is just fine for me .
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                        • vividjohn45
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 11-21-10
                          • 6331

                          #13
                          yeah. not good, bwin coverup. tp collusion.

                          yuck.
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                          • horja1
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 01-13-11
                            • 5646

                            #14
                            Books don't give a shit about this ... more acounts means more buy-in's ... collusion, same IP, bots and other stuff like that are just small details ...
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                            • Mews
                              SBR Rookie
                              • 03-28-11
                              • 2

                              #15
                              Why has this been kept secret for so many years?
                              Cant they find some kind of consumers union and get Bwin to pay for what they did to the players?

                              First of all everyone should be informed of this super scam...
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                              • donkdown
                                Restricted User
                                • 07-09-09
                                • 4423

                                #16
                                TruePoker is next to be coming out!! I always knew there was shady dealings over there!!
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                                • bettilimbroke999
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 02-04-08
                                  • 13254

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by donkdown
                                  Now we know why Penny and Anglor always win on TP this is daming evidence way worse than anything Pittbull poker did. I now want every penny I lost back at TP as should all of you!!
                                  I know what ya mean, Penny00 wins at every table she plays and she multitables 24/7, this is in a game where 2 out of 3 winning sessions is considered professional level, I tried to lookup her stats on pokertableratings.com but of course truepoker doesnt allow their site to be tracked (one of the only sites that doesnt). If you play at truepoker just expect to be scammed and you wont be disappointed
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                                  • notsosharp
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 10-25-10
                                    • 799

                                    #18
                                    penny00 wins at unreal rate. Person the biggest winner on the network by a long shot. Def needs to be investigated.
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                                    • mikejamm
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 08-24-09
                                      • 11045

                                      #19
                                      This is some fuk'ed up shit! Exactly the reason I quit playing there. Until there is some type of regulation by the sports books, this shit will continue to happen. Of course I don't see it changing anytime soon. Just boycott that book all together. If enough players complain about it or stop using their site, maybe they'll get the message.
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                                      • TRone
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 02-16-11
                                        • 205

                                        #20
                                        Wow, used to play there sometimes. Will not play there anymore if this is true.
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                                        • narcman
                                          SBR Rookie
                                          • 05-25-11
                                          • 7

                                          #21
                                          I’ve played at TP for years and never had a single problem; sometimes I watch Penny and Anglor play and I really think the win because they are good at what they do, besides they don’t always win, I’ve seen them lose as well
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                                          • narcman
                                            SBR Rookie
                                            • 05-25-11
                                            • 7

                                            #22
                                            i love TP, i would never play somewhere else
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                                            • nyplayer33
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 09-27-06
                                              • 8303

                                              #23
                                              true poker has always been not trustworthy
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                                              • MortalLock
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 09-10-10
                                                • 215

                                                #24
                                                video?
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                                                • nosniboR11
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 09-02-08
                                                  • 10042

                                                  #25
                                                  thats another reason why it is good to see these people go down,
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                                                  • Richards
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 10-20-10
                                                    • 386

                                                    #26
                                                    The thing about True Poker is news but just barely. People who play there who have any clue whatsoever are aware of this and most of the time you can spot it.

                                                    I'm not quite sure Penny00 is winning due to colluding, and I don't think anglor is killing it every day.....I think at least in the past on that particular network there have been some people playing at the higher stakes who have NO business at that level in online poker.

                                                    The penny player could be a superuser type situation but colluding with another player at the table shouldn't give him the kind of edge he has.

                                                    As for players from the same city, Guayaquil, the network has a skin that serves quite a few players in Ecuador and Venezuela. If you are getting beat at a table full of players from Valencia, Maracaibo, and Guayaquil...please quit and let me have your seat...these players are 9 out of 10 times pretty POOR and give plenty of action.

                                                    Penny00 win rate, well I don't know either he's really good and running really good against some BAD players, or has something FUNNY going on, or both?

                                                    TP ain't the only place. FT and PS had lots of colluding problems in their Sit N' Go's. Another USA facing poker site seems to be infested at the moment with what appear to be low stakes Eastern European colluding "sweat shops." I say this because sometimes you can literally tell when they appear to be CHANGING SHIFTS and three players from the same country will leave the table to be replaced by three more players from the same country.
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                                                    • big joe 1212
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 06-01-08
                                                      • 19380

                                                      #27
                                                      this is why nobody should play online.

                                                      too much cheating going on out there!
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                                                      • ElLoco23
                                                        Restricted User
                                                        • 01-22-11
                                                        • 233

                                                        #28
                                                        This is old news, been like this for over a year. Just look at the freerolls, for every 100 signed up its probably really only 40 different people. ttwarrior knows firsthand ho its done. lol
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                                                        • Richards
                                                          SBR Sharp
                                                          • 10-20-10
                                                          • 386

                                                          #29
                                                          But yet somehow the (RIP) 2500 Friday Freeplay tourney had to be one of the most +EV tourneys on the Internet

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                                                          • gamemastere
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 09-15-10
                                                            • 1546

                                                            #30
                                                            interesting video thanks for posting
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                                                            • narcman
                                                              SBR Rookie
                                                              • 05-25-11
                                                              • 7

                                                              #31
                                                              I think TP is just a great site, with their new software and all, for some reason they just don’t stop growing and I really feel like they are the next Fulltilt,
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                                                              • narcman
                                                                SBR Rookie
                                                                • 05-25-11
                                                                • 7

                                                                #32
                                                                I’m sorry but what’s so interesting about the video? It shows someone playing at two TOURNAMENTS at the same time, all poker sites out there let you play tournaments from same IP, but not ringames
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                                                                • RudyRuetigger
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 08-24-10
                                                                  • 65084

                                                                  #33
                                                                  IS SBR going to ban shills???

                                                                  Originally posted by narcman
                                                                  I’ve played at TP for years and never had a single problem; sometimes I watch Penny and Anglor play and I really think the win because they are good at what they do, besides they don’t always win, I’ve seen them lose as well
                                                                  Originally posted by narcman
                                                                  i love TP, i would never play somewhere else
                                                                  Originally posted by narcman
                                                                  I think TP is just a great site, with their new software and all, for some reason they just don’t stop growing and I really feel like they are the next Fulltilt,
                                                                  Originally posted by narcman
                                                                  I’m sorry but what’s so interesting about the video? It shows someone playing at two TOURNAMENTS at the same time, all poker sites out there let you play tournaments from same IP, but not ringames
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                                                                  • donkdown
                                                                    Restricted User
                                                                    • 07-09-09
                                                                    • 4423

                                                                    #34
                                                                    This guy works for TP and is scum! No fcking place lets u play same tourney from same ip on 2 diffrent accts!! TruePoker is 100% a fraud site. I spoke with a lady who went by Vikki when she worked there and she verified all of this. Cris and Bookmaker own these sites so I place the blame on them as well!! I mean how can Anthony who is a manger at DSI be allowed to play on the site at all?? I know what I seen I know what I've been told about certain players on that site from very realiable ppl who used to work at TP. If anyone can prove that Penny00 plays at any other site and has won Ill retract my statement. It wont happen cuz Penny00 is as superused as Russ Hamilton!! I guess America's Card room wasnt a scam site either? Remeber them from the early days at cris.. LOL This place is UB and AP sprinkled in with some Pittbull poker all rolled into 1 with some BetEd to top it off! The site is a scam believe what you want I proved my point about this pos site before! You trust there staff they r as dumb as they come your info with them is not safe I can tell u multiple accts that got broken into also and it was because the pos staff at TP gave up the info!! TRUEPOKER = JOKESITE!! There day's r numbered anyway and I love it!!
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                                                                    • donkdown
                                                                      Restricted User
                                                                      • 07-09-09
                                                                      • 4423

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by narcman
                                                                      I think TP is just a great site, with their new software and all, for some reason they just don’t stop growing and I really feel like they are the next Fulltilt,
                                                                      Growing?? LOL I pray the poker nerds get on that site!! They will expose it themselves!! Place is one big corrupt place. i remeber when they were running TP out of Vikki's house I mean u could hear kids crying and dogs barking in the back ground. This was only 4 yrs ago!! I mean they dont even word the bets right!! When yoy are betting it is called raised on there site!! I can go on and on about how much o a Joke Site it is but I'd just be wasting my breath here!! Cris Owns it and SBR sux Cris's dick!! Keep playing there boys!! Just stay away from the Super Users! TruePoker where Variance is just a word!! Should be there new slogan!! Not business as usual!!
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