5Dimes line mistake. Quick

**WendysRox** · 03-09-11, 05:36 PM

hahaha... so the guy thought he was beating the book on a bad line, put a ton of money on it, and LOST because he didn't understand the bet????!?!?!!!!

**LLXC** · 03-09-11, 05:37 PM

Lose-lose situation...

**Grandmaster B** · 03-09-11, 05:38 PM

Originally posted by B1GER1C828

exactly..its loss/push situation.

if it does win, you'll get refunded. If it loses, it will be a loss.

**gryfyn1** · 03-09-11, 05:41 PM

Originally posted by FourLengthsClear

He responded to you later in the thread, no?

As mentioned the line shown at half-time has the same indicators on 5Dimes XML feed (i.e. is the same market) as the pre-game o/u 2.5 goals.

No actually he didn't.

He quoted a halftime line; and I asked why he assumed a halftime line includes the first half. I didn't go to 5dimes to check his info, as I didn't plan on betting it.

If you went and checked and saw that it was a live play and not a halftime line, then thats fine, but nowhere in any of his posts does he give any evidence that that's the case and not a case that he misinterpreted the given line

**FourLengthsClear** · 03-09-11, 05:52 PM

Originally posted by gryfyn1

No actually he didn't.

He quoted a halftime line; and I asked why he assumed a halftime line includes the first half. I didn't go to 5dimes to check his info, as I didn't plan on betting it.

If you went and checked and saw that it was a live play and not a halftime line, then thats fine, but nowhere in any of his posts does he give any evidence that that's the case and not a case that he misinterpreted the given line

I agree on this point.
I did not check the site, I only saw this post after the 2nd half had started but I did check the XML data.

I only commented in the thread because it was the OPs intent to bet into a bad line and to encourage others to do so. I would have called him out on that even if it was a case of him misinterpreting the line.

KC · 03-09-11, 05:53 PM

Give 5D credit, they post more lines and props than anyone, they are allowed to make an error once in a while.

**FourLengthsClear** · 03-09-11, 05:59 PM

Originally posted by KC

Give 5D credit, they post more lines and props than anyone, they are allowed to make an error once in a while.

Compared to other US facing books, that is true.

Compared to Bet365 however they offer realtively few markets and make many more mistakes. I realise there is a big discprepancy in staffing levels but that should not be used as an excuse.

**Dirty Sanchez** · 03-09-11, 06:28 PM

Classic shot taker...way to highlight yourself to Tony...hope he kicks your ass

**BettingGeek** · 03-09-11, 07:00 PM

Originally posted by BettingGeek

Soccer
Halftime

Valencia (UCL)/FC Schalke (UCL)* Over 2½ +239

It was my direction so people can navigate and bet quickly. It was how it is. You log in 5Dimes. On soccer section there is Halftime. Click on that shit. Place wager.

Anyone bet on soccer at 5Dimes know that "Halftime" is in-game wagering. Fair market value, this bet should be -239.

Next question.

PS: Bet small and you'll get paid.

If you bet max, raise the flag, bet cancelled

**BettingGeek** · 03-09-11, 07:02 PM

Originally posted by BIGDAY

Got it

How did it go?

**BettingGeek** · 03-09-11, 07:06 PM

Originally posted by gryfyn1

actually it wasn't clear from his original post --- the original post says

when you see a "halftime" line it generally refers to the 2nd half. Not a in-game play -- if the OP had said Soccer, In-game play. Over 2½. that would be a different bet

tried to help people navigate quickly as there is no such In-game play Soccer at 5Dimes. Man, if you have an account at 5Dimes you already know it.

**yisman** · 03-09-11, 07:29 PM

5 Dimes line errors aren't that unusual. I used to see them during football live betting.

They're pretty careful about canceling them all.

**FourLengthsClear** · 03-09-11, 07:32 PM

Originally posted by BettingGeek

tried to help people navigate quickly as there is no such In-game play Soccer at 5Dimes. Man, if you have an account at 5Dimes you already know it.

So, we have established that you are a shot-taking cheat. All that remains is to work out whether you are also:

a) A liar - about being paid out; or
b) Dumb as a box of rocks - for bragging about being apid out on a forum where 5Dimes have a representative.

**BettingGeek** · 03-09-11, 07:46 PM

Originally posted by FourLengthsClear

So, we have established that you are a shot-taking cheat. All that remains is to work out whether you are also:

a) A liar - about being paid out; or
b) Dumb as a box of rocks - for bragging about being apid out on a forum where 5Dimes have a representative.

**** off. I am asking you. If you see a price mistake at BestBuy, I bet you will be the first ************ show up to buy that TV/laptop

Oh, that's what I did - not ashame to admit that.

**BettingGeek** · 03-09-11, 07:47 PM

in this motherfu(king world

"Either your a shot taker or you taking shot at"
Bill Walter

**FourLengthsClear** · 03-09-11, 07:51 PM

Originally posted by BettingGeek

**** off. I am asking you. If you see a price mistake at BestBuy, I bet you will be the first ************ show up to buy that TV/laptop

Oh, that's what I did - not ashame to admit that.

I have been betting online for many years and compile XML feeds for over 30+ books. I see on average 10-15 obviously bad lines every single day. I have never knowingly bet on a single one.

Did you get paid and if so, do you think it is smart to brag about it?

**BettingGeek** · 03-09-11, 07:53 PM

Originally posted by FourLengthsClear

I have been betting online for many years and compile XML feeds for over 30+ books. I see on average 10-15 obviously bad lines every single day. I have never knowingly bet on a single one.

Ok

**cant call it** · 03-09-11, 07:54 PM

I got lucky with one line they had bears +99 instead of bear +9
I only hit it small
and won
Nobody noticed
but then again
I didnt advertise it
Good luck

**BettingGeek** · 03-09-11, 08:00 PM

Originally posted by FourLengthsClear

I have been betting online for many years and compile XML feeds for over 30+ books. I see on average 10-15 obviously bad lines every single day. I have never knowingly bet on a single one.

Did you get paid and if so, do you think it is smart to brag about it?

I'm not bragging. I'm helping people out...
I didn't bet on that thou.

**FourLengthsClear** · 03-09-11, 08:18 PM

Originally posted by BettingGeek

I'm not bragging. I'm helping people out...
I didn't bet on that thou.

**BettingGeek** · 03-09-11, 08:34 PM

Originally posted by FourLengthsClear

It's true. I already cashed $1000 out after wins on some soccer under. My account balance is zero. Can't bet on this so I want someone to do it. If I bet on it, I'll keep it very quiet, trust me.
Reason I posted this because I want to see Tony's Chat (check my first couple posts)
or if someone got lucky and bet small, they may get through, who knows

**ThaddeusB** · 03-09-11, 08:49 PM

Originally posted by stevenash

No book pays on mistakes, nor should one expected to be paid.

Vegas books are legally obligated to pay ALL bets, even obvious mistakes.

**ThaddeusB** · 03-09-11, 08:53 PM

Originally posted by FourLengthsClear

So, we have established that you are a shot-taking cheat.

Betting a bad line is not cheating. May or may not be a good long-term strategy, but it certainly isn't cheating.

**FourLengthsClear** · 03-09-11, 08:55 PM

Originally posted by ThaddeusB

Betting a bad line is not cheating. May or may not be a good long-term strategy, but it certainly isn't cheating.

I beg to differ.

**NrmlCurvSurfr** · 03-09-11, 08:57 PM

Originally posted by FourLengthsClear

I beg to differ.

When the book puts a line out they are making you an offer. Accepting an offer is not cheating by my definition.

**cant call it** · 03-09-11, 09:00 PM

I don't think its cheating either, they make enough money they should be able to cover their own mistakes. Or, send the employee packing that keeps fking those up.

**davidchong** · 03-09-11, 09:09 PM

Originally posted by ThaddeusB

Vegas books are legally obligated to pay ALL bets, even obvious mistakes.

Why books cancels those wager?... in terms and conditions said they follow las vegas rules..........

**Hareeba!** · 03-09-11, 09:14 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

If you can get away with it good for you

so it's okay for a book to take a shot at you too?
or does that work one way only?

**BettingGeek** · 03-09-11, 09:21 PM

When Amazon.com or other online retailers posted up a price mistake product. Either you order it or not order it.
And if you order it, usually reputable big-ticket e-retailer will honor price mistake and ship (it did many times for me). Smaller online merchant will evaluate and make decision whether it will ship or not, if not they usually send me a giftcard or some discount something.
They put it out, and I accept the offer. That's it.

Same applied with books, if they don't honor it and say that "sorry, we ****** up the line". They can go ahead and cancel it, I'm fine.

**NrmlCurvSurfr** · 03-09-11, 09:22 PM

Originally posted by Hareeba!

so it's okay for a book to take a shot at you too?
or does that work one way only?

If you accidentally bet the wrong side or for the wrong amount you cannot change your wager. The books do have an edge in that they are able to correct their mistakes. In that sense the books take their fair share of shots at bettors.

**ehp6737** · 03-09-11, 09:32 PM

Originally posted by cant call it

I don't think its cheating either, they make enough money they should be able to cover their own mistakes. Or, send the employee packing that keeps fking those up.

My thoughts exactly. When you have a business you need to factor in the cost of employee mistakes, etc into your operating costs. It is an internal issue between employer and the employee(s) and the quality of their work. If their employees arent doing their job then thats their problem, not mine. Any store will honor a price that was a mistake until it realized, fix it, and move on from there. I really hate this issue of bad lines. It's not my responsibility to make sure the book is doing their job. With that said, I still WILL NEVER knowingly bet a bad line, because as many posters in this thread have already correctly stated, it's a lose/draw proposition. You wont cash.

But for those of you who strongly take the book's side on this issue, let me ask you this. Did you ever think that books do this shit on purpose? Ever think they're the ones taking a free shot at the player who's dumb enough to wager on the bad line? Because if the player wins, bet is voided. Player loses on the bad line bet its a loss. So its actually win/draw for the book. They mix in one or two of these lines every other day or so, this way its not blatantly obvious what their doing since a book like 5d offers tons of sides each day and nobody notices shit. And since one player doesnt know another in the offshore world, they cant compare notes and see that Player A's bet was voided and Player B's bet was graded a loss for the same event. Cha-ching sportsbooks

**BettingGeek** · 03-09-11, 09:39 PM

Ditto.

Take it or leave it.
Don't hate.

**IrishTim** · 03-09-11, 10:12 PM

Do we have a chat?

**MartinBlank** · 03-09-11, 10:21 PM

The guy didn't even bet it.

Or so he says. Now the story is he already cashed out at 5D and was just doing everyone here a solid.

I have no idea why he would advertise it, knowing 5D has someone on this board. That is the dumb part.

**FourLengthsClear** · 03-09-11, 10:22 PM

Originally posted by ehp6737

My thoughts exactly. When you have a business you need to factor in the cost of employee mistakes, etc into your operating costs. It is an internal issue between employer and the employee(s) and the quality of their work. If their employees arent doing their job then thats their problem, not mine. Any store will honor a price that was a mistake until it realized, fix it, and move on from there. I really hate this issue of bad lines. It's not my responsibility to make sure the book is doing their job. With that said, I still WILL NEVER knowingly bet a bad line, because as many posters in this thread have already correctly stated, it's a lose/draw proposition. You wont cash.

But for those of you who strongly take the book's side on this issue, let me ask you this. Did you ever think that books do this shit on purpose? Ever think they're the ones taking a free shot at the player who's dumb enough to wager on the bad line? Because if the player wins, bet is voided. Player loses on the bad line bet its a loss. So its actually win/draw for the book. They mix in one or two of these lines every other day or so, this way its not blatantly obvious what their doing since a book like 5d offers tons of sides each day and nobody notices shit. And since one player doesnt know another in the offshore world, they cant compare notes and see that Player A's bet was voided and Player B's bet was graded a loss for the same event. Cha-ching sportsbooks

I did wonder about this with two particular European books.
In the case of 5Dimes I am sure that it is a simply a case of poor administration/incompetence.