Betphoenix - blacklisted suspected of being rogue

**doublej95** · 03-08-11, 07:32 AM

Not looking good for betphoenix.

**Boner_18** · 03-08-11, 07:35 AM

I have a little bit of $ w/ WC. Had 1000 there earlier in the year. Very glad I got it out.

**jjgold** · 03-08-11, 07:35 AM

No idea

I never liked that book

Bad management, I doubt they are in trouble though

Just a book that SBR guys should not have much money in

**Fishhead** · 03-08-11, 07:44 AM

Originally posted by Roxxyfish

SBR whats going on with Bet Phoenix ? I found a report at Moneysavingexpert.com
about BetPhoenix ,on their site BP is blacklisted for being rogue

Betot - Scam Bookies- Zanziba

Betpheonix - Part of Betot- Zanziba. dreamylittledream disagrees with this inclusion (post 34)

they are downgraded at SBR as well so should we be concerned ?

Great forum

**MBENZ** · 03-08-11, 07:46 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

No idea

I never liked that book

Bad management, I doubt they are in trouble though

Just a book that SBR guys should not have much money in

The management has been horrific from day one.I was told by a well respected man in the offshore to steer clear about a year ago when I cashed out of there.Same guy told me to stay clear of Matchbook.From what I see this seemed to have been sound advice.

**Fishhead** · 03-08-11, 07:54 AM

Betphoenix

sbr rating- B

**barcelonafc** · 03-08-11, 07:58 AM

sbr need to take action asap if this shit is true, stop anyone getting fleeced.

**AimingHigh** · 03-08-11, 08:06 AM

That report you found relates to a book that BetPhoenix bailed out. They were probably part of Phoenix all along, though Phoenix denied that. Anyway, they offered crazy, unsustainable bonuses, and went bust. Phoenix stood for the balances.

While I don't like Phoenix much (for other reasons), I don't think it's fair to accuse them of being rogue - just failing to keep a tight rein on all of their management for individual sub-books at the beginning. Things seem much better run now, so I wouldn't worry excessively - just don't keep more there than you're uncomfortable losing.

**gdoom** · 03-08-11, 08:10 AM

BET PHOENIX SUCKS. i WOULD NEVER PUT FUNDS THERE! FOR REAL!

**spongerat** · 03-08-11, 08:13 AM

they seem to be ok with me and have always paid out

**stevenash** · 03-08-11, 08:13 AM

Could it be Beantown Jeem was right all along?

**waco66** · 03-08-11, 08:14 AM

good thing i am no longer at that book.

**JustinBieber** · 03-08-11, 08:16 AM

They are bad but not as bad as people are saying. I would trust SBR over moneysavingexpert, most people there are poor people who consider themselves experts on how to save/make money.

**Bill Dozer** · 03-08-11, 08:18 AM

Almost everything regarding sportsbooks in that MSE forum comes from SBR or you guys in our forum here. I don't see any new stuff on BP there. We had a few payout delays that were supposed to be sorted out yesterday. We'll update today if we didn't already.

**jjgold** · 03-08-11, 08:20 AM

Its so easy to tell if a book is bad or not
Phoenix was just not that great from day one

Also they do not have money to do large payouts which is a huge concern

They only do increment payouts when withdrawal size increases

**pavyracer** · 03-08-11, 08:44 AM

Originally posted by stevenash

Could it be Beantown Jeem was right all along?

I don't think BTJ posted here since you signed up. And his name is Jim.

**MBENZ** · 03-08-11, 08:48 AM

Originally posted by pavyracer

I don't think BTJ posted here since you signed up. And his name is Jim.

Beaner does post at other forums,maybe Mr.Nash does too.

**pavyracer** · 03-08-11, 08:51 AM

Originally posted by MBENZ

Beaner does post at other forums,maybe Mr.Nash does too.

Ah yes I forgot about the forum cemetary called p**ps.

**Intuitive_Edge** · 03-08-11, 08:51 AM

I swear ive heard more complaints about this book since i joined then any other book

**MBENZ** · 03-08-11, 08:56 AM

Originally posted by pavyracer

Ah yes I forgot about the forum cemetary called p**ps.

John sure does go over there alot to pay his respects to the dead.

**Santo** · 03-08-11, 09:02 AM

MSE is a UK bonus hustling forum. Given BP introduced a US-Only bonus policy, I doubt they have many fans there.

**soli** · 03-08-11, 09:03 AM

I hear complaints but I have never heard of someone not getting paid. With that said, they are not as bad as advertised

**stevenash** · 03-08-11, 09:07 AM

Originally posted by pavyracer

I don't think BTJ posted here since you signed up. And his name is Jim.

You must think I'm a newbie to off shore gambling, forums, etc. etc. etc.

Dude, Jeem is an inside joke from other forums a few years back.

**loyd** · 03-08-11, 09:25 AM

Originally posted by barcelonafc

sbr need to take action asap if this shit is true, stop anyone getting fleeced.

SBR only take action when they receive a request from a player who is having issues, they don't take decisions based on whats written on other forums.

**SBR_John** · 03-08-11, 09:39 AM

BP needs to get its act together and stop blaming forums and players and processors and everyone but themselves. They need to remember that we are in Costa Rica too. When they pay their 13th month employee pay, required by law, late we get calls. When players miss a payment plan payment we get called. They were rated a B+ on the strength of their owner, business plan and investment. But now its been two years and we are seeing cracks in the foundation when we should be seeing improvement. The only way to fight bad PR in this racket is run a good operation and prove the critics wrong. So go ahead BP, prove us all wrong.

**spartangreen** · 03-08-11, 10:22 AM

I played BP for the soccer lines, never had a problem, always paid the same day with **, but they limited my bets down to $100, so i jumped ship over to 5dimes and really have gotten to like 5dimes better.

**jjgold** · 03-08-11, 10:26 AM

Too many guys on payment plans there

They do have some Asian and Euro support more than many CR books

My own monitoring service had them at a C

**SBR Lou** · 03-08-11, 10:26 AM

Originally posted by Bill Dozer

Almost everything regarding sportsbooks in that MSE forum comes from SBR or you guys in our forum here. I don't see any new stuff on BP there. We had a few payout delays that were supposed to be sorted out yesterday. We'll update today if we didn't already.

Player reports on file:

A $4,000 Neteller request is on day 18.

A $2,000 cash request is on day 23.

**polskboy** · 03-08-11, 10:41 AM

Originally posted by Lou

Player reports on file: A $4,000 Neteller request is on day 18. A $2,000 cash request is on day 23.

wow so i guess they should be called sportsbook.com lol

**pavyracer** · 03-08-11, 10:43 AM

Originally posted by Lou

Player reports on file:

A $4,000 Neteller request is on day 18.

A $2,000 cash request is on day 23.

If this is true then they don't deserve a B rating. This is very generous to be at B.

**katstale** · 03-08-11, 10:57 AM

Originally posted by Santo

MSE is a UK bonus hustling forum. Given BP introduced a US-Only bonus policy, I doubt they have many fans there.

Some wisdom introduced.

**adlai** · 03-08-11, 10:59 AM

betphoenix is a pile of sh** book.

**Fishhead** · 03-08-11, 11:05 AM

After holding down a B+ for ages, the drop to B was certainly warranted given the continued payout issues.

**saintjames** · 03-08-11, 11:12 AM

i cashed out $700 by westernunion with betmania with no problems but then got cutoff from 3 books (betphoenix , betmania , and wagerchief) because of a ********** in my betphoenix account...so i guess 1 person owns all 3 books?