If you have been paying taxes you have been helping to support Mubarak with billions of US dollars for years... Given this hard to see how clicking a like button on facebook has any meaningful significance to bringing about change...
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Carseller4
SBR Posting Legend
10-22-09
19627
#39
Just sitting back and hoping for a high body count.
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muldoon
SBR MVP
01-04-10
4397
#40
Originally posted by Carseller4
Just sitting back and hoping for a high body count.
Why, do you owe them points and figure you'll get out of the debt?
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wtf
SBR Posting Legend
08-22-08
12983
#41
I live in hong kong, and I really dont think democracy will make things better, it is a super vibrant economy now as is singapore
I dont think there is a successful democracy in the middle east outside of Israel
democracy in china would be a FUKIN DISASTER , look at india, that is a democracy over a billion people, the worlds biggest shit hole
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muldoon
SBR MVP
01-04-10
4397
#42
The truth is, most people (in America anyway) don't care if Egypt is a democracy or not. You're dealing with a population that has been lead by a dictator that has been a useful "friend" to the US. After decades of quashing dissent, with the backing of our tax dollars, you think people over there don't harbor any resentment to those who helped foot the bill?
The majority of people would support a dictator over there, if it kept gas prices in check here. Democracy matters (to most) here, not elsewhere.
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muldoon
SBR MVP
01-04-10
4397
#43
Originally posted by wtf
I dont think there is a successful democracy in the middle east outside of Israel
Even that is up for debate. Depends how you define successful.
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388185
#44
Democracy really is not that good in many areas of world and it is really not for many countries
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pavyracer
SBR Aristocracy
04-12-07
82586
#45
Originally posted by muldoon
The majority of people would support a dictator over there, if it kept gas prices in check here. Democracy matters (to most) here, not elsewhere.
This is sadly true. They were interviewing a lady filling up a Suburban the other day here in local news and asked her what do you think about the people protesting and dying in the streets in Egypt in the name of freedom and democracy and her response was: "I just hope this doesn't affect gas prices here".
Total disconnection from reality.
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wtf
SBR Posting Legend
08-22-08
12983
#46
Originally posted by muldoon
Even that is up for debate. Depends how you define successful.
I guess the best bench mark is smooth transfer of power to the winning party, but outside of that you are correct
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FourLengthsClear
SBR MVP
12-29-10
3808
#47
Originally posted by pavyracer
How has imposed democracy worked in Germany, Italy or Spain? Remember 60 years ago they were ruled by guys named Hitler, Mussolini and Franco.
Hitler was democratically elected!
Quite aside from that, none of the above are/were majority Muslim countries. Islam and democracy are incompatible. If you don't believe me:
a) Have a look at a map and show me a majority Muslim country that has an open democracy.
b) Read a translation of the Qur'an.
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muldoon
SBR MVP
01-04-10
4397
#48
Let's see how many clicks the page gets, when the country chooses to turn off the taps, go full theocracy and negate any truces in place with Israel.
It's great to see people stand up, but just don't expect the final product to be as accommodating to our own interests
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pavyracer
SBR Aristocracy
04-12-07
82586
#49
Originally posted by FourLengthsClear
Hitler was democratically elected!
Quite aside from that, none of the above are/were majority Muslim countries. Islam and democracy are incompatible. If you don't believe me:
a) Have a look at a map and show me a majority Muslim country that has an open democracy.
b) Read a translation of the Qur'an.
Turkey, Lebanon, Bosnia & Herzegovina, Kosovo, Afghanistan, Iraq, Malaysia, Indonesia, Morocco.
Here it is. I just named you 9 countries on top of my head who have a Muslim majority and open democracy.
Next question.
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388185
#50
Anyone giving money has to have brain damage
Worry about your own lives and maker it better
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dfberger23
SBR Hall of Famer
11-08-10
5069
#51
Why not donate the money to your own community?
Fuk Egypt.
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FourLengthsClear
SBR MVP
12-29-10
3808
#52
Originally posted by pavyracer
Turkey, Lebanon, Bosnia & Herzegovina, Kosovo, Afghanistan, Iraq, Malaysia, Indonesia, Morocco.
Here it is. I just named you 9 countries on top of my head who have a Muslim majority and open democracy.
Next question.
Turkey - How many governments has the army removed in the last 30 years?
Lebanon - Elections by ethnic/religious block are hardly open.
Bosnia - Is not majority Muslim
Kosovo - Is not even a country.
Afghanisan/Iraq - Just LOL
Malaysia - Open democracy? Same party in power for 40 years and Affirmative Action in favor of the majority race.
Indonesia - Could be considered a democracy for 5 years at most but I will give you that.
Morocco - The parliament plays second fiddle to the King.