I've Lost everything I'm so so sick of this.

**venice2222** · 12-24-10, 01:44 AM

spend your last $200 on some lap dances.

**Naz18** · 12-24-10, 01:47 AM

Should of bought bought a good tout with that kind of money.

**paco** · 12-24-10, 01:50 AM

Brooks, I like the Lions mL play.

**Richkas** · 12-24-10, 01:50 AM

Born in Canada.

Explains this thread

**nli07** · 12-24-10, 01:59 AM

Hang in there buddy. I would advise that you go cold turkey for a month, find another hobby to get your fix. I know it wont be easy but after a month you can re-evaluate all your options. BOL

**jsmithj88** · 12-24-10, 02:00 AM

some1 snap his thumbs already, haaha

**easywinner** · 12-24-10, 02:04 AM

What's it like going to GA, like do you have to stand up and say something or do they have a counselor there to try to motivate people to change, how's it work?

**brooks85** · 12-24-10, 02:07 AM

I think the lions will finish the season strong with 4 wins.

and to masu, if you are losing that money what you need is a break definitely.

**stealthyburrito** · 12-24-10, 02:07 AM

log off if you haven't done so already.

get as far away from this place as possible.

**GELATINOUS CUBE** · 12-24-10, 02:14 AM

B.s.

But-i've-seen-these-guys...

Man,be-glad-you-have-all-that-money-to-burn-in-the-first-place.

Then-be-honest,if-you-focus,do-you-go-70%-or-so-regularly??

If-not,you're-just-jackin-off-your-cash.

**Ace_of_Spades** · 12-24-10, 02:15 AM

Tail someone who w ins.

**play** · 12-24-10, 02:15 AM

I'm very sorry to hear this

**GELATINOUS CUBE** · 12-24-10, 02:16 AM

Seems-like-alot-of-you-guys-are-point-and-click-bettors...

I-pointed-and-clicked-tonight-and-went-1-3.

If-you-cap-the-games,and-your-focused-you-should-go-3-1...2-out-of-3...all-night.

**sapidoc** · 12-24-10, 02:17 AM

Damn how far in debt do u need to go to claim bankruptcy? Just load up those credit cards, loans, WUs and everything you can get possible. Then put it all down on a game of your choice. I personally like Wisconsin +3 on New Years, but you make your own pick.

Then if you win, you ship the $ and can go back to normal.

If you lose you claim bankruptcy and just get a do-over on your money-life.

**Optional** · 12-24-10, 02:18 AM

Originally posted by easywinner

What's it like going to GA, like do you have to stand up and say something or do they have a counselor there to try to motivate people to change, how's it work?

When I went about 20 years ago it was pretty laid back. They don't make you stand up or say anything or feel compelled to participate.

I thought I had a bad problem, until I went along. Went to 3 meetings and decided I just wasn't the type to steal, take fake loans etc to gamble, as I would have lost my mind over it well before that stage. And that's the position just about every regular at GA had got themself to.

It made me realize I wasn't actually doomed to be a hopeless degenerate loser gambler as I had feared. And since then I have hardly caused myself any stress from gambling.

**unde0087** · 12-24-10, 02:50 AM

things are bad for you but listen. When you gamble with money you cant afford to lose at this point it is DEAD money. The book will take it from you and then you will feel even worse. I know how you feel. When I moved for my soon to be wife I went from a great job, that I would have never left, to being out of work for 3 months. I have 2 degrees and a great job background and I couldn't find a job to save my ass. I left shitty waking up in the morning knowing I didn't have a job to go to and it killed me. I started gambling with the little money I had and when I would lose it, I would go to an all time low. It made me to the point of wanting to give up. The thing I can say is looking back, gambling made that year so rough and it didn't have to be that way. Things will turn but in the mean time concentrate on the job search and not gambling. I quit watching sports all together and was away from SBR for months so I didn't fall back in. Everyone goes through tough times and it is even worse around this time of year but enjoy the one thing you have, family. Good Luck man, I really mean it because I know exactly what you are going through. I am sure even if most wont admit it many on this site are going through some of the same shit right now.

**stevex** · 12-24-10, 02:58 AM

First and foremost, get a real job. Second, use sports wagering as a second income. NEVER try to use it as a primary income, unless you have about 100,000 to invest in it right away. Third, after you get a job, put in about 3-4 thousand. Think of that money as an investment. Fourth, once you realize that it's an investment, study and use the labby. Enough said.

**maxvalue1** · 12-24-10, 03:26 AM

what types of jobs are you looking for?...what location

**Cuse0323** · 12-24-10, 03:32 AM

i've lost more money than I ever thought I would have to my name. you really just have to forget about it and think about the good things about life, as cheesy as it sounds and as difficult as it is. plus stay away from this place, whenever i think i'm done i come here and someone makes me feel better about how much i've lost so i get back in the game. this place is a curse and you can't stop unless you leave here. some of us are just losers (most) and if we quit now could just consider ourselves up thousands that we'll lose later on, but it's tough to do. we all want it back.

**Nickelicious** · 12-24-10, 03:34 AM

I haven't experienced the same depths of despair that masu has, but I've been around the same block. About three years ago, I thought I could make a little side money from sports gambling, which I thought I was pretty good at before I really got into it. Turned out I was wrong. I had plenty of hot streaks but even more cold ones and ran up enough credit card debt to choke a pig. And I was no kid, either. I'd been gambling on and off in Las Vegas since the early '80s and had some success. But when I got serious about it three years ago, I increased my unit size considerably and increased my wager volume even more. Bad idea.

About a year ago, after running up all that debt, I said good-bye to gambling and to this forum. I stayed away from this forum for about ten months and I'm still paying off that debt with the salary from my job. I did NOT want to declare bankruptcy and destroy my credit score, and the debt has been steadily declining for the past year. During the previous ten months, I really didn't miss the gambling (I didn't place a single wager), which I think is a strong sign that I managed to avoid a hardcore gambling addiction. But that doesn't mean that everyone on this message board can also avoid that addiction.

A couple months ago I finally felt like I could recognize gambling for what it should be: an entertainment expense. I now believe that every amateur who enjoys gambling should live by this rule:

Gambling is an entertainment expense, not an investment for profit.

As an entertainment expense, gambling should be integrated with your personal financial budget and scaled to match your income. If you earn $50,000 a year, you might budget $100 a month towards gambling. If you lose that $100 on the first day of the month, stop gambling for the next 29 days. If you turn that $100 into $1,000, have fun and go crazy as long as the money lasts. But don't even think of tapping into your bank account for more gambling funds if you go broke.

As long as I follow this rule, I think I can enjoy gambling the rest of my life. The most important concept to understand is that your "gambling budget" must be entirely separated from your "real life budget." If you ever begin spending money on gambling that you really need for real life (as I once did), then you need to quit cold turkey until you can straighten out your priorities.

**unde0087** · 12-24-10, 03:44 AM

Originally posted by Nickelicious

I haven't experienced the same depths of despair that masu has, but I've been around the same block. About three years ago, I thought I could make a little side money from sports gambling, which I thought I was pretty good at before I really got into it. Turned out I was wrong. I had plenty of hot streaks but even more cold ones and ran up enough credit card debt to choke a pig. And I was no kid, either. I'd been gambling on and off in Las Vegas since the early '80s and had some success. But when I got serious about it three years ago, I increased my unit size considerably and increased my wager volume even more. Bad idea.

About a year ago, after running up all that debt, I said good-bye to gambling and to this forum. I stayed away from this forum for about ten months and I'm still paying off that debt with the salary from my job. I did NOT want to declare bankruptcy and destroy my credit score, and the debt has been steadily declining for the past year. During the previous ten months, I really didn't miss the gambling (I didn't place a single wager), which I think is a strong sign that I managed to avoid a hardcore gambling addiction. But that doesn't mean that everyone on this message board can also avoid that addiction.

A couple months ago I finally felt like I could recognize gambling for what it should be: an entertainment expense. I now believe that every amateur who enjoys gambling should live by this rule:

Gambling is an entertainment expense, not an investment for profit.

As an entertainment expense, gambling should be integrated with your personal financial budget and scaled to match your income. If you earn $50,000 a year, you might budget $100 a month towards gambling. If you lose that $100 on the first day of the month, stop gambling for the next 29 days. If you turn that $100 into $1,000, have fun and go crazy as long as the money lasts. But don't even think of tapping into your bank account for more gambling funds if you go broke.

As long as I follow this rule, I think I can enjoy gambling the rest of my life. The most important concept to understand is that your "gambling budget" must be entirely separated from your "real life budget." If you ever begin spending money on gambling that you really need for real life (as I once did), then you need to quit cold turkey until you can straighten out your priorities.

**samdapatriotsfan** · 12-24-10, 03:48 AM

Originally posted by Nickelicious

I haven't experienced the same depths of despair that masu has, but I've been around the same block. About three years ago, I thought I could make a little side money from sports gambling, which I thought I was pretty good at before I really got into it. Turned out I was wrong. I had plenty of hot streaks but even more cold ones and ran up enough credit card debt to choke a pig. And I was no kid, either. I'd been gambling on and off in Las Vegas since the early '80s and had some success. But when I got serious about it three years ago, I increased my unit size considerably and increased my wager volume even more. Bad idea.

About a year ago, after running up all that debt, I said good-bye to gambling and to this forum. I stayed away from this forum for about ten months and I'm still paying off that debt with the salary from my job. I did NOT want to declare bankruptcy and destroy my credit score, and the debt has been steadily declining for the past year. During the previous ten months, I really didn't miss the gambling (I didn't place a single wager), which I think is a strong sign that I managed to avoid a hardcore gambling addiction. But that doesn't mean that everyone on this message board can also avoid that addiction.

A couple months ago I finally felt like I could recognize gambling for what it should be: an entertainment expense. I now believe that every amateur who enjoys gambling should live by this rule:

Gambling is an entertainment expense, not an investment for profit.

As an entertainment expense, gambling should be integrated with your personal financial budget and scaled to match your income. If you earn $50,000 a year, you might budget $100 a month towards gambling. If you lose that $100 on the first day of the month, stop gambling for the next 29 days. If you turn that $100 into $1,000, have fun and go crazy as long as the money lasts. But don't even think of tapping into your bank account for more gambling funds if you go broke.

As long as I follow this rule, I think I can enjoy gambling the rest of my life. The most important concept to understand is that your "gambling budget" must be entirely separated from your "real life budget." If you ever begin spending money on gambling that you really need for real life (as I once did), then you need to quit cold turkey until you can straighten out your priorities.

Well said Nick, very well said.

**KingKolzig** · 12-24-10, 04:13 AM

u will never win. and ill never win. if you have been gambling for years/decades and you still lose year after year then you will always lose. be prepared to lose another 10k in the next few years the books have you all set up............remember the UF-Jax game at 1pm tuesday. Only 5dimes had a line for it (UF -17), i would have loved to take Jax +8 or so for the first half. would have put 5u on it. my current book wouldnt post a line. Jax outright won the game and i was pissed. so i went much larger that night cause i felt ripped off and lost a ton. i couldnt stop thinking about the jerks who didnt post the line. but had jax not covered i would have forgot it right away. typical thinking by a gambler and the books feast on it.

**MendozaLine** · 12-24-10, 04:29 AM

That last 200 bucks isn't going to get you out of the hole. Get out for a bit. Exercise, read, watch movies... Anything that wont remind you of gambling. Take out that 200 bucks because you're going to regret it in a month or so when you're running low on money. 200 bucks is a lot of money. Its crazy how us gamblers lose sight of that kinda shit. We have no problem throwing a nickel on a game, but dont want to go out because shits expensive out there.

I'm the same type of gambler as you. I go on really nice runs, and then I follow that up with a terrible run. It sounds like you have terrible money management, which I do as well. You're a chaser which isn't good.

I dont wanna hear from you on this forum for quite some time.

I sincerely hope things only go up from here.

**darrell74** · 12-24-10, 04:41 AM

Here's a link.
See what's available within 50 miles of your home.

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http://www.usajobs.gov/

**Nicky Santoro** · 12-24-10, 04:45 AM

Originally posted by Nickelicious

If you earn $50,000 a year, you might budget $100 a month towards gambling. If you lose that $100 on the first day of the month, stop gambling for the next 29 days. If you turn that $100 into $1,000, have fun and go crazy as long as the money lasts. But don't even think of tapping into your bank account for more gambling funds if you go broke.

Nicky, you are living in a fantasy world.. come back to reality. gambling is a sickness. it's a severe addiction. when someone loses that 100$ on the 1st day, you think it's that easy to just say, ok, i am done for another 29 days?? lol.. no, they'll do another 100$ the next day and say if they lose this 100$, they won't gamble now for 2 months. and it won't stop there... no way they wait 29 days.

Nickay, it's like an alcoholic saying i will only drink 1 beer a day, and if i drink 2 today, i won't drink again for 2 days. this is the exact same thing. an alcoholic won't be able to have only 1 beer a day. gambling is a disease.

**Tuna Fish Riot** · 12-24-10, 04:45 AM

Get a job, save up a few grand, and then camp SBR threads for the "lock of the year" plays and go all-in. You'll make it all back.

**Giuvara** · 12-24-10, 05:12 AM

Originally posted by Nickelicious

I haven't experienced the same depths of despair that masu has, but I've been around the same block. About three years ago, I thought I could make a little side money from sports gambling, which I thought I was pretty good at before I really got into it. Turned out I was wrong. I had plenty of hot streaks but even more cold ones and ran up enough credit card debt to choke a pig. And I was no kid, either. I'd been gambling on and off in Las Vegas since the early '80s and had some success. But when I got serious about it three years ago, I increased my unit size considerably and increased my wager volume even more. Bad idea.

About a year ago, after running up all that debt, I said good-bye to gambling and to this forum. I stayed away from this forum for about ten months and I'm still paying off that debt with the salary from my job. I did NOT want to declare bankruptcy and destroy my credit score, and the debt has been steadily declining for the past year. During the previous ten months, I really didn't miss the gambling (I didn't place a single wager), which I think is a strong sign that I managed to avoid a hardcore gambling addiction. But that doesn't mean that everyone on this message board can also avoid that addiction.

A couple months ago I finally felt like I could recognize gambling for what it should be: an entertainment expense. I now believe that every amateur who enjoys gambling should live by this rule:

Gambling is an entertainment expense, not an investment for profit.

As an entertainment expense, gambling should be integrated with your personal financial budget and scaled to match your income. If you earn $50,000 a year, you might budget $100 a month towards gambling. If you lose that $100 on the first day of the month, stop gambling for the next 29 days. If you turn that $100 into $1,000, have fun and go crazy as long as the money lasts. But don't even think of tapping into your bank account for more gambling funds if you go broke.

As long as I follow this rule, I think I can enjoy gambling the rest of my life. The most important concept to understand is that your "gambling budget" must be entirely separated from your "real life budget." If you ever begin spending money on gambling that you really need for real life (as I once did), then you need to quit cold turkey until you can straighten out your priorities.

Great post. I hope everything works out for you also, Masu.

**Quagmire27** · 12-24-10, 05:15 AM

What you need to do is deal some drugs. If you're not smart enough to make that work, visit a bank 3 towns over...

**AribaAriba** · 12-24-10, 05:22 AM

Originally posted by brooks85

here is a start

12/26/2010 1:00 PM NFL Football 105 Detroit Lions* +160 vs Miami Dolphins
12/26/2010 4:15 PM NFL Football 114 Tampa Bay Buccaneers* -7 +110 vs Seattle Seahawks
12/26/2010 4:05 PM NFL Football 129 San Diego Chargers* -9 +110 vs Cincinnati Bengals
1/1/2011 10:00 PM UFC Fighting 1301 Brandon Vera* +130 vs Thiago Silva
1/1/2011 9:30 PM UFC Fighting 1402 Dong Hyun Kim* -130 vs Nate Diaz
1/1/2011 11:00 PM Props Fighting 1111 Maynard wins by 5 round decision* +105 vs Not Maynard by 5 round decision

Risking $100.00 To Win $9,464.85

12/26/2010 1:00 PM NFL Football 105 Detroit Lions* +160 vs Miami Dolphins
12/26/2010 4:15 PM NFL Football 114 Tampa Bay Buccaneers* -7 +110 vs Seattle Seahawks
12/26/2010 4:05 PM NFL Football 129 San Diego Chargers* -9 +110 vs Cincinnati Bengals
1/1/2011 10:00 PM UFC Fighting 1301 Brandon Vera* +130 vs Thiago Silva
1/1/2011 9:30 PM UFC Fighting 1402 Dong Hyun Kim* -130 vs Nate Diaz
1/1/2011 11:00 PM Props Fighting 1107 Edgar wins by 5 round decision* +185 vs Not Edgar by 5 round decision

Risking $100.00 To Win $13,197.47

nice! i love the selections bud,great value leme me put some 50 on each and we'll welcome the year w/ a bang.

**AribaAriba** · 12-24-10, 05:27 AM

what about lets stop calling it gambling and call it sports investing. I mean in an investing there are plans and should be followed all the time, if we deviate on such plans it wud be gambling for sure. In order to have a plan we should have a sure system that is a proven winner, if you follow this in a long run you can entertain your self on having actions and the best scenario is to make money in a timely basis.

**Quagmire27** · 12-24-10, 05:29 AM

Originally posted by AribaAriba

what about lets stop calling it gambling and call it sports investing. I mean in an investing there are plans and should be followed all the time, if we deviate on such plans it wud be gambling for sure. In order to have a plan we should have a sure system that is a proven winner, if you follow this in a long run you can entertain your self on having actions and the best scenario is to make money in a timely basis.

sure...but what about Jesus ?

**goblue12** · 12-24-10, 05:39 AM

If you're strapped for cash, move to Vegas and become a ticket writer. Almost every casino will hire you and it's a job you will enjoy. I'm sure any bettor would find it fascinating to take wagers just to see the amounts and sides each person is wagering. That's valuable information.

Like everything else in life, figure out what the successful people are doing and mirror it. Read Ganchrow's posts in the Think Tank. Take what durito or MonkeyF0cker say to heart. Bet at the places that don't take RickySteve's action anymore.

**KingKolzig** · 12-24-10, 05:42 AM

Originally posted by goblue12

If you're strapped for cash, move to Vegas and become a ticket writer. Almost every casino will hire you and it's a job you will enjoy. I'm sure any bettor would find it fascinating to take wagers just to see the amounts and sides each person is wagering. That's valuable information.

Like everything else in life, figure out what the successful people are doing and mirror it. Read Ganchrow's posts in the Think Tank. Take what durito or MonkeyF0cker say to heart. Bet at the places that don't take RickySteve's action anymore.

or murder urself. either way it should work out

**Nickelicious** · 12-24-10, 05:54 AM

Originally posted by Nicky Santoro

Nicky, you are living in a fantasy world.. come back to reality. gambling is a sickness. it's a severe addiction. when someone loses that 100$ on the 1st day, you think it's that easy to just say, ok, i am done for another 29 days?? lol.. no, they'll do another 100$ the next day and say if they lose this 100$, they won't gamble now for 2 months. and it won't stop there... no way they wait 29 days.

Nickay, it's like an alcoholic saying i will only drink 1 beer a day, and if i drink 2 today, i won't drink again for 2 days. this is the exact same thing. an alcoholic won't be able to have only 1 beer a day. gambling is a disease.

OMG Santoro, you could not have hit the nail on the fukkin' head any stronger than you just did. "It's a severe addiction." You bet it is. It is damn near impossible for a gambling addict to lose $100 in one day and then abstain from gambling for a month just because "oooh, golly gosh, I don't have the budget to gamble any more this month, no, no, no!" I went through that shit, man. Chasing heart-crushing losses and then capping games like my life depended on it, trying to convince myself that I had at least one sure-fire lock-of-the-year muthafucka guaranteed winnah! to make up for my previous losses. And then losing that bitch, too.

Then I might try to get my head on straight and go conservative, ya know, and spend a week going heavy on smart money management and the Vegas-sharp counterintuitive, mathematical, hypersensitive, kickass analysis-that-blows-away-the-world type handicapping that is always good for a short run. I'd win a bunch of money the first week I tried that and then a week later I would get my ass kicked with the same sharp betting strategy!

That's the curse of gambling. It takes an enormous amount of discipline to keep the emotions in check. And it takes a consistent application of fundamentally sound math and betting strategies to realize long-term profits. I suspect the mathematicians are better than anyone at this game when it comes to profit over the long term.

But ya know what? I'm not a mathematician. And I don't want to be. Which is why I set aside a small budget for sports gambling every month. I gave up making this a career and began enjoying it for what it really is; spending my money on entertainment.

And that is the difference between me and the gambling degens on this board. After going through hell and coming back to reality, I know when to pull the plug. There are a lot of SBR members here who do the same thing.

And then there are those who don't. God help those who don't know when -- or even how -- to pull the plug.