SEC is the toughest conference

**goofyre** · 12-05-10, 10:22 PM

This is fairly common knowledge to most. I can't wait to watch Ryan Mallet absolutely obliterate Ohio State.

**stealthyburrito** · 12-05-10, 10:26 PM

ok, so what was the clamoring to have oregon in the title game over tcu when their SOS are nearly identical???

**pavyracer** · 12-05-10, 10:34 PM

Originally posted by stealthyburrito

ok, so what was the clamoring to have oregon in the title game over tcu when their SOS are nearly identical???

Look at the second column. It appears the coaches voted for Oregon as 1st.

**jbrent95** · 12-05-10, 10:36 PM

It's hard to disagree. How many years in a row has the SEC had a team playing for the national championship?

**MJFtheGenius** · 12-05-10, 10:37 PM

doesnt everyone know this? It has been this way forever

**MJFtheGenius** · 12-05-10, 10:37 PM

Guys

The sky is blue

**stealthyburrito** · 12-05-10, 10:42 PM

Originally posted by pavyracer

Look at the second column. It appears the coaches voted for Oregon as 1st.

right, both human polls factor into the bcs formula.

i'll never get how all that works.

**csknight3** · 12-06-10, 12:19 AM

Im not here to talk trash but haha I think its funny Oregon's strength of schedule is easier than TCUs.

**iQon** · 12-06-10, 01:55 AM

Originally posted by stealthyburrito

ok, so what was the clamoring to have oregon in the title game over tcu when their SOS are nearly identical???

SOS is irrelevant. One team is an AQ and the other isn't.

TCU has also beaten, what? 1 or 2 ranked teams all year?

**THE PROFIT** · 12-06-10, 02:31 AM

Once again, will you fuks stop whining when BCS teams get into BCS Bowls

**BigdaddyQH** · 12-06-10, 08:46 AM

The SEC West is very tough. The SEC East is Big East material.

**str** · 12-06-10, 09:14 AM

This has been the case for quite awhile.

**SBR_John** · 12-06-10, 09:15 AM

What was that score of that Oregon vs Tennessee game again? ...cant seem to find that...

Seriously, the SEC is the best conference but just barely. Florida was down, Tenn, Georgia, Bama down...LSU was lucky, S Carolina was exposed. Arkansas has no defense but great QB. And then there is Auburn. Started with a great QB and ended with a great QB and an excellent defense(see 2nd halfs vs Ark, Bama and S. Car).

But Wisky or Ohio St would kill S Carolina. Oregon would kill Georgia or Florida....point is yes, SEC is better but only by a little and only with Auburn. Take Auburn out of there you have a very mediocre even poor conference.

**jjgold** · 12-06-10, 09:24 AM

The thing with SEC is that they beat each other up and you take a pounding weekly, your team gets banged up

Most of these other conferences do not have the hard hitting battles weekly therefore always healthy

**manny24** · 12-06-10, 09:29 AM

Originally posted by SBR_John

What was that score of that Oregon vs Tennessee game again? ...cant seem to find that...

Seriously, the SEC is the best conference but just barely. Florida was down, Tenn, Georgia, Bama down...LSU was lucky, S Carolina was exposed. Arkansas has no defense but great QB. And then there is Auburn. Started with a great QB and ended with a great QB and an excellent defense(see 2nd halfs vs Ark, Bama and S. Car).

But Wisky or Ohio St would kill S Carolina. Oregon would kill Georgia or Florida....point is yes, SEC is better but only by a little and only with Auburn. Take Auburn out of there you have a very mediocre even poor conference.

agree with everything but wisconsin statement...they should have lost the game against arizona state...saved only by some of the worst refereeing calls ever...other than that not impressed with wins over mediocre big 10...tcu is going to pound them.

**Vol_Bengal** · 12-06-10, 09:36 AM

Originally posted by SBR_John

What was that score of that Oregon vs Tennessee game again? ...cant seem to find that...

Seriously, the SEC is the best conference but just barely. Florida was down, Tenn, Georgia, Bama down...LSU was lucky, S Carolina was exposed. Arkansas has no defense but great QB. And then there is Auburn. Started with a great QB and ended with a great QB and an excellent defense(see 2nd halfs vs Ark, Bama and S. Car).

But Wisky or Ohio St would kill S Carolina. Oregon would kill Georgia or Florida....point is yes, SEC is better but only by a little and only with Auburn. Take Auburn out of there you have a very mediocre even poor conference.

Hah! You're out of your damn tree! mediocre to poor conference??? Who did LSU lose to this year? SEC schools... Alabama? SEC schools... there is a reason the last 4 NC's have come from the SEC. The brutal, gauntlet that teams must go through each year, yes beats them up, but gets the top tier teams ready for that big game.

If my math is right the SEC has claimed 1/2 of the BCS title games... 6 of 12. The next closest conference is the Big 12 and ACC with 2 each.

**pico** · 12-06-10, 09:36 AM

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**utmoody10** · 12-06-10, 09:41 AM

No doubt the SEC West carried the flag for the SEC this year but any conference wouldnt be as impressive if you took away their best team so that argument never works with me. Fact is Auburn, Arkansas, LSU, Alabama, Miss St, and USC are all top 25 teams, no other conference can claim that many teams. The Pac 10 and Big 10 have very top heavy conferences. Outside of Oregon and Stanford the Pac 10 has been disappointing. The Big 10 has OSU, Wisky and Mich State but there isnt much after that with Penn State or Iowa being next in line. The Big 12 is deeper than both Pac 10 and Big 10 so they may be next in line. No need to even mention Big East or the ACC.

Couple all this with the fact that the SEC has brought home the past 4 national championships and won 6 out of 12 BCS championships by 4 different teams since its inception with the possibility of going for 5 in a row and 7 out of 13 and adding a 5 different champion since 1998. Thats what makes people either love or hate the SEC.

**Michael Ferro** · 12-06-10, 09:48 AM

I don't disagree with you but SOS is a sham. wins and losses of opponents. different times of year teams are better or worst. VT is a good example. are they considered a strong team in SOS or a weak team?

**LT Profits** · 12-06-10, 10:57 AM

Originally posted by utmoody10

No doubt the SEC West carried the flag for the SEC this year but any conference wouldnt be as impressive if you took away their best team so that argument never works with me. Fact is Auburn, Arkansas, LSU, Alabama, Miss St, and USC are all top 25 teams, no other conference can claim that many teams. The Pac 10 and Big 10 have very top heavy conferences. Outside of Oregon and Stanford the Pac 10 has been disappointing. The Big 10 has OSU, Wisky and Mich State but there isnt much after that with Penn State or Iowa being next in line. The Big 12 is deeper than both Pac 10 and Big 10 so they may be next in line. No need to even mention Big East or the ACC.

Couple all this with the fact that the SEC has brought home the past 4 national championships and won 6 out of 12 BCS championships by 4 different teams since its inception with the possibility of going for 5 in a row and 7 out of 13 and adding a 5 different champion since 1998. Thats what makes people either love or hate the SEC.

I agree with 99% of what you said. My lone quibble is that Virginia Tech of the ACC can hang with any team in the country right now, and I think they will beat Stanford outright.

**utmoody10** · 12-06-10, 11:14 AM

Originally posted by LT Profits

I agree with 99% of what you said. My lone quibble is that Virginia Tech of the ACC can hang with any team in the country right now, and I think they will beat Stanford outright.

VT is the lone reason that the ACC is a step up from the Big East, no doubt. Just didnt think the ACC was even deserving of a mention in terms of arguing quality conferences as a whole.

**WorkHorse** · 12-06-10, 11:16 AM

Playoffs Needed!

NAIA has them.
Division III has them.
Division II has them.
Division I FCS has them.

Why not the big boys?

**The Seer** · 12-06-10, 11:20 AM

Originally posted by SBR_John

What was that score of that Oregon vs Tennessee game again? ...cant seem to find that... Seriously, the SEC is the best conference but just barely. Florida was down, Tenn, Georgia, Bama down...LSU was lucky, S Carolina was exposed. Arkansas has no defense but great QB. And then there is Auburn. Started with a great QB and ended with a great QB and an excellent defense(see 2nd halfs vs Ark, Bama and S. Car). But Wisky or Ohio St would kill S Carolina. Oregon would kill Georgia or Florida....point is yes, SEC is better but only by a little and only with Auburn. Take Auburn out of there you have a very mediocre even poor conference.

no need to hate john because Texas was horrible. You know Tennessee was starting 4 freshman on the offensive line and was one of the youngest teams in the country playing a group of Oregon veterans. The east was down but I doubt Oregon would have gone undefeated in the SEC west. The schedule is what makes the conference tough. They go through battles every week. Imagine if Oregon played Bama, then Auburn, then LSU, then Arkansas, then Florida, then MS State. They'd lose at least 2 if not 3. SEC teams can be beaten early but by the bowls they are a different animal.

**pavyracer** · 12-06-10, 11:21 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

The thing with SEC is that they beat each other up and you take a pounding weekly, your team gets banged up

Most of these other conferences do not have the hard hitting battles weekly therefore always healthy

Well the Strength of Schedule doesn't lie.
4th, 6th & 7th best from the best 15 teams.

Look at Oregon 76th, TCU 75th, Wisconsin 70th.

If Auburn was playing the UCLAs, Washys and Indianas of the world they would have been beaten them by 60 points too. But instead they play teams who play defense like Miss St, LSU, Alabama week after week.