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  • playa420
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 03-09-08
    • 881
    #36
    going with rampage +200, after machidas fights with shogun his mystique is gone and the blueprint to beat him is out there.
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      • V2daTizzo
        SBR Rookie
        • 08-31-09
        • 30
        #37
        Rampage+216
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          • freeVICK
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 01-21-08
            • 7114
            #38
            wtf i just read machida drinks his own piss every morning... wtf
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              • Vaughany
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 03-07-10
                • 45563
                #39
                Originally posted by V2daTizzo
                Rampage+216
                No point, ur losing out on making at least double that. He's not going to win by submission or decision so might as well bet on him winning by TKO/KO at +400 to +600 range or most logically Rampage KO of the Night at +700.
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                  • k13
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 07-16-10
                    • 18104
                    #40
                    I think ufc has like 3 fights a year that I would actually really want to watch and zero that I would actually pay.

                    Just recycled garbage.
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                      • Vaughany
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 03-07-10
                        • 45563
                        #41
                        Originally posted by k13
                        I think ufc has like 3 fights a year that I would actually really want to watch and zero that I would actually pay.

                        Just recycled garbage.
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                          • forevergrindin
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 10-03-10
                            • 230
                            #42
                            If Machida wins what will be his most likely form of victory?
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                              • Vaughany
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 03-07-10
                                • 45563
                                #43
                                Originally posted by forevergrindin
                                If Machida wins what will be his most likely form of victory?
                                Id say 70% likely to be a decision, 20% TKO, 10% SUB.
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                                  • rocky mattioli
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 08-26-10
                                    • 1263
                                    #44
                                    Originally posted by k13
                                    I think ufc has like 3 fights a year that I would actually really want to watch and zero that I would actually pay.

                                    Just recycled garbage.

                                    one man`s junk(figuratively,not literally) is another man`s treasure...
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                                      • Vaughany
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 03-07-10
                                        • 45563
                                        #45
                                        Originally posted by rocky mattioli
                                        one man`s junk(figuratively,not literally) is another man`s treasure...
                                        haha very true sir!
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                                          • beermankirk
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 11-17-09
                                            • 1512
                                            #46
                                            Notice line On Phil Davis is a dropping
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                                              • Poppa Catfish
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 09-22-10
                                                • 3352
                                                #47
                                                Maybe people have discovered that Phil hasn't fought anybody yet
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                                                  • Vaughany
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 03-07-10
                                                    • 45563
                                                    #48
                                                    Originally posted by Poppa Catfish
                                                    Maybe people have discovered that Phil hasn't fought anybody yet
                                                    hmm I'd say Gustaffson is legit. Stann and Wallace are not cans either!
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                                                      • rocky mattioli
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 08-26-10
                                                        • 1263
                                                        #49
                                                        Originally posted by Poppa Catfish
                                                        Maybe people have discovered that Phil hasn't fought anybody yet

                                                        to be fair,who exactly has boetsch beaten?...he`s lost to every decent fighter he`s faced...

                                                        i think i`d match gustafsson/stann and wallace against heath,patt and todd brown....

                                                        you taking a flyer on boetsch,poppa?
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                                                          • rocky mattioli
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 08-26-10
                                                            • 1263
                                                            #50
                                                            Originally posted by rocky mattioli
                                                            to be fair,who exactly has boetsch beaten?...he`s lost to every decent fighter he`s faced...

                                                            i think i`d match gustafsson/stann and wallace against heath,patt and todd brown....

                                                            you taking a flyer on boetsch,poppa?

                                                            actually,i wouldn`t blame anyone for taking a flyer on a large dog....can`t wish you luck on it,though.....have a bit tied up on davis...
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                                                              • Poppa Catfish
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 09-22-10
                                                                • 3352
                                                                #51
                                                                Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                                hmm I'd say Gustaffson is legit. Stann and Wallace are not cans either!
                                                                I have Gustaffson as his best win by far. Stann is a wind up walk straight punch robot, and Wallace has looked really bad as of late. I just think that -600 (for a brief time he was even at -800 on bodog) is really stiff for a fighter we haven't seen in with good competition.

                                                                I just can't shake this notion that there are going to be a lot of ripped up parlay cards with Phil Davis name on it.
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                                                                  • Vaughany
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 03-07-10
                                                                    • 45563
                                                                    #52
                                                                    Originally posted by Poppa Catfish
                                                                    I have Gustaffson as his best win by far. Stann is a wind up walk straight punch robot, and Wallace has looked really bad as of late. I just think that -600 (for a brief time he was even at -800 on bodog) is really stiff for a fighter we haven't seen in with good competition.

                                                                    I just can't shake this notion that there are going to be a lot of ripped up parlay cards with Phil Davis name on it.
                                                                    I totally agree that he shouldnt be between -600 and -800. And I wouldnt be surprised if there was an upset in this one. Ive got small risk reasonably high reward play on Davis gettin sub of night hedged with Davis by decision and Boetch KO of the Night (+2500)!
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                                                                      • Vaughany
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 03-07-10
                                                                        • 45563
                                                                        #53
                                                                        Originally posted by rocky mattioli
                                                                        to be fair,who exactly has boetsch beaten?...he`s lost to every decent fighter he`s faced...

                                                                        i think i`d match gustafsson/stann and wallace against heath,patt and todd brown....

                                                                        you taking a flyer on boetsch,poppa?
                                                                        I agree, Gustaffsson was still very green when they fought and has improved a lot since as he showed at 120, and Stann was not big enough for 205 division - he is much better at 185 and also constantly improving now he is at Team Jackson. And Wallace did of course actually beat Heath comfortably last wknd and was on a weeks notice!
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                                                                          • Poppa Catfish
                                                                            SBR MVP
                                                                            • 09-22-10
                                                                            • 3352
                                                                            #54
                                                                            Originally posted by rocky mattioli
                                                                            to be fair,who exactly has boetsch beaten?...he`s lost to every decent fighter he`s faced...

                                                                            i think i`d match gustafsson/stann and wallace against heath,patt and todd brown....

                                                                            you taking a flyer on boetsch,poppa?
                                                                            Tim hasn't beaten anybody really. His losses are highly competitive, and I might add usually off a short training camp, so I have a better feeling for where he is. I think fighters just don't get enough credit for taking fights on late notice. Look at Griffin, he is underrated after losing a fight to a great fighter in Gomi off late notice.
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                                                                              • rocky mattioli
                                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                                • 08-26-10
                                                                                • 1263
                                                                                #55
                                                                                Originally posted by Poppa Catfish
                                                                                I have Gustaffson as his best win by far. Stann is a wind up walk straight punch robot, and Wallace has looked really bad as of late. I just think that -600 (for a brief time he was even at -800 on bodog) is really stiff for a fighter we haven't seen in with good competition.

                                                                                I just can't shake this notion that there are going to be a lot of ripped up parlay cards with Phil Davis name on it.

                                                                                hope you`re wrong...each rbr description i`ve read on bodog(or on the net) regarding boetsch`s fights mentions boetsch being "tired" or his lack of cardio....you`d think if he were serious and expected to be stepping in on short notice all these times,he work on that cardio....we`ll see tonight...if he wins i`ll stop back and eat plenty of crow...


                                                                                hopefully davis is careful early......
                                                                                Last edited by rocky mattioli; 11-20-10, 04:33 PM.
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                                                                                  • Poppa Catfish
                                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                                    • 09-22-10
                                                                                    • 3352
                                                                                    #56
                                                                                    Originally posted by rocky mattioli
                                                                                    actually,i wouldn`t blame anyone for taking a flyer on a large dog....can`t wish you luck on it,though.....have a bit tied up on davis...
                                                                                    Well good luck then

                                                                                    I have Tim as the cap to some ludicrous parlays, but I never mind losing those.
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                                                                                      • Poppa Catfish
                                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                                        • 09-22-10
                                                                                        • 3352
                                                                                        #57
                                                                                        btw you can't train 24-7 just fyi. It is mentally and physically draining.

                                                                                        A promoter can come up to you at any time and offer you a fight, and if you are a new guy trying to break into the scene you probably will accept it.
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                                                                                          • rocky mattioli
                                                                                            SBR MVP
                                                                                            • 08-26-10
                                                                                            • 1263
                                                                                            #58
                                                                                            Originally posted by Poppa Catfish
                                                                                            btw you can't train 24-7 just fyi. It is mentally and physically draining.

                                                                                            A promoter can come up to you at any time and offer you a fight, and if you are a new guy trying to break into the scene you probably will accept it.

                                                                                            i get it...just be gentle if i`m forced to eat crow......
                                                                                            Last edited by rocky mattioli; 11-20-10, 04:58 PM.
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                                                                                              • Reno Paul
                                                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                                                • 02-11-10
                                                                                                • 1647
                                                                                                #59
                                                                                                Looking forward to the card tonight.....Hope I can get a good video stream of it.
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                                                                                                  • Poppa Catfish
                                                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                                                    • 09-22-10
                                                                                                    • 3352
                                                                                                    #60
                                                                                                    No worries Rocky

                                                                                                    sadly I'm at work so I'm forced to watch it on a stream, if you can't find one I'll send you a PM Reno
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                                                                                                      • Vaughany
                                                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                                                        • 03-07-10
                                                                                                        • 45563
                                                                                                        #61
                                                                                                        http://atdhe.net/ should have at least one link for it.
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                                                                                                          • dooman14
                                                                                                            SBR Sharp
                                                                                                            • 12-23-09
                                                                                                            • 263
                                                                                                            #62
                                                                                                            i'm going with penn and jackson on a parlay
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                                                                                                              • k13
                                                                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                                                                • 07-16-10
                                                                                                                • 18104
                                                                                                                #63
                                                                                                                Originally posted by rocky mattioli
                                                                                                                one man`s junk(figuratively,not literally) is another man`s treasure...

                                                                                                                ratings have been going down and down, only draw when lesner fights.
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                                                                                                                  • Boddhissatva
                                                                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                                                                    • 04-10-09
                                                                                                                    • 655
                                                                                                                    #64
                                                                                                                    Making a small wager on Penn to win within the distance. +200
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                                                                                                                      • sportsfanatic
                                                                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                                                                        • 03-10-07
                                                                                                                        • 3967
                                                                                                                        #65
                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Boddhissatva
                                                                                                                        Making a small wager on Penn to win within the distance. +200
                                                                                                                        wasn't even close. hughes got his ass kicked.
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                                                                                                                          • louisv516
                                                                                                                            SBR Rookie
                                                                                                                            • 11-07-10
                                                                                                                            • 34
                                                                                                                            #66
                                                                                                                            Jacksons gonna kill him...
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                                                                                                                              • Mikail
                                                                                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                                                                                • 07-19-09
                                                                                                                                • 21689
                                                                                                                                #67
                                                                                                                                Hope Rampage puts up more of a fight then Hughes.
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                                                                                                                                  • ayuntalo
                                                                                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                                                                                    • 08-01-10
                                                                                                                                    • 1692
                                                                                                                                    #68
                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by louisv516
                                                                                                                                    Jacksons gonna kill him...
                                                                                                                                    you will feel like watching World series..
                                                                                                                                    SWING AND A MISS lyoto is way ellusive for rampage
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                                                                                                                                      • Poppa Catfish
                                                                                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                                                                                        • 09-22-10
                                                                                                                                        • 3352
                                                                                                                                        #69
                                                                                                                                        Let me take a stab at your next troll comment, how about UFC sucks! Way too many finishes!
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                                                                                                                                          • The Bet Master
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                                                                                                                                            • 09-29-10
                                                                                                                                            • 2665
                                                                                                                                            #70
                                                                                                                                            Machidas got this
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