Mayweather -165 over Pacquiao?? I'm switching camps

**Landscaper** · 11-15-10, 03:36 PM

Does not matter Floyd will not fight him imo we wont c this fight happen...I do think Pacman would destroy him though

**Jonah** · 11-15-10, 03:36 PM

Where is the Fight taking place? Atlantis?

**D3 Mighty Ducks** · 11-15-10, 03:37 PM

This fight would NEVER happen.

**Herky** · 11-15-10, 03:46 PM

Manny too scared to take a drug test, this fight won't happen.

**MBENZ** · 11-15-10, 03:52 PM

Originally posted by Herky

Manny too scared to take a drug test, this fight won't happen.

You got it backwards,Mayweather is scared to death of taking an asswhoopin.

**ayuntalo** · 11-15-10, 03:57 PM

pacquiao will whoop mayweathers ass, too bad floyd monkey mayweather only wants to talk and never wants to fight..
maybe he should fight justin bieber so that he wont worry about his record

**Naz18** · 11-15-10, 03:59 PM

They are both worse then each other in terms of trying to get the fight done.

**OMGRandyJackson** · 11-15-10, 04:00 PM

Originally posted by Herky

Manny too scared to take a drug test, this fight won't happen.

If you remember correctly, Manny agreed to the style of drug testing Floyd's camp wanted. Floyd then came up with a diff bs reason not to fight.

I hope these two fukks are called out for the rest of their lives if this fight never happens. Complete fuking bullshit to the sport of boxing if this fight does not go down.

**SBR Lou** · 11-15-10, 04:03 PM

Originally posted by Herky

Manny too scared to take a drug test, this fight won't happen.

Originally posted by MBENZ

You got it backwards,Mayweather is scared to death of taking an asswhoopin.

Why won't Manny agree to Olympic style drug testing? Even if the Nevada athletic/boxing commission doesn't require the test to be done, if it's good enough for some of the best athletes in the world as a means to ensure fair play, why won't Manny agree if he has absolutely nothing to hide? Clearly Mayweather has concerns that the current methods of drug testing can be manipulated, and so before he's willing to risk tarnishing his perfect record, he wants to know that the fight is on equal ground.

And let's not repeat the "fear of needles" or "superstition" of having blood drawn X amount of time prior to a fight. That just sounds silly from a professional fighter, and I'm surprised his camp even spit it out as reasoning.

Originally posted by OMGRandyJackson

If you remember correctly, Manny agreed to the style of drug testing Floyd's camp wanted. Floyd then came up with a diff bs reason not to fight.

He only agreed if it was at least X amount of time before or after the fight, taking away the 'random' part of the Olympic style drug testing.

**OMGRandyJackson** · 11-15-10, 04:14 PM

Originally posted by Lou

He only agreed if it was at least X amount of time before or after the fight, taking away the 'random' part of the Olympic style drug testing.

Manny wanted 21 days, Floyd wanted 14 days before fight. Manny agreed next to doing testing any amount of time before fight, just not fight day.

**SBR Lou** · 11-15-10, 04:24 PM

Originally posted by OMGRandyJackson

Manny wanted 21 days, Floyd wanted 14 days before fight. Manny agreed next to doing testing any amount of time before fight, just not fight day.

Okay, I guess that prompts the question of "why".

It seems to me that Manny must have his reasons. If they both have blood drawn, or are both tested in the same manner at the same time, there's no disadvantage. The superstition or belief that he'd be harming his chances in the fight from the Manny camp if having blood drawn X amount of time prior to, or on the day of seem silly. If Floyd can do it, why can't Manny?

I hope they fight. Mayweather is clearly the better defender of the two, and I believe he's a smarter boxer as well, but there's no denying how efficient and aggressive Pacquaio is. Mayweather would be rolling the dice taking it to the scorecards with the nature of boxing, but if he wanted to force the issue, I think he could end the fight anyway. With all the doubters and hype, it wouldn't surprise me if we saw a more aggressive Floyd looking for a knockout.

**omalley21** · 11-15-10, 05:01 PM

Floyd will talk shit, then find another excuse not to fight and his ^ nuthuggers will keep riding his nuts. Same old story with Floyd he always ducked the top competition.

**OMGRandyJackson** · 11-15-10, 05:04 PM

Originally posted by Lou

Okay, I guess that prompts the question of "why". It seems to me that Manny must have his reasons. If they both have blood drawn, or are both tested in the same manner at the same time, there's no disadvantage. The superstition or belief that he'd be harming his chances in the fight from the Manny camp if having blood drawn X amount of time prior to, or on the day of seem silly. If Floyd can do it, why can't Manny?

Come on you know how superstitious athletes can be lol!

This brings up the next thing, are there actually PED that exist that can be flushed from your system within hours? This was Manny's camp's worry against Margarito. But do these even exist?

**Grits n' Gravy** · 11-15-10, 05:10 PM

Would be shocked if this fight happens anytime soon. Floyd has some major legal issues to deal with before he can sign on for the fight. Don't believe all the b.s. about the drug testing being a sticking point. It boils down to money and Arum's insistence on making sure he and Manny get the lion share of ppv money. Floyd wants a fair cut and Arum's distaste for Floyd leaving him years back is what is holding the fight up.

**The HOFF** · 11-15-10, 08:44 PM

Originally posted by Lou

It seems to me that Manny must have his reasons. If they both have blood drawn, or are both tested in the same manner at the same time, there's no disadvantage.

The Olympic style is not at the same time. One fighter could be tested on fight night and the other not. But Manny did agree to the testing. Mayweather is ducking.

**OMGRandyJackson** · 11-15-10, 09:41 PM

Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy

Would be shocked if this fight happens anytime soon. Floyd has some major legal issues to deal with before he can sign on for the fight.

Not necessarily true. I heard his legal problems could be over a year away, so thats all of 2011 he has to fight.

**MendozaLine** · 11-15-10, 09:46 PM

Manny Pacquiao is on steriods, Floyd Mayweather is a girl.

**yisman** · 11-15-10, 09:48 PM

what kind of line is that anyway?

No way Mayweather should be -165

**BatemanPatrickl** · 11-15-10, 09:50 PM

I say let them both take steroids, knuckle up and see who wins.

**SBR_John** · 11-15-10, 10:09 PM

Originally posted by yisman

what kind of line is that anyway?

No way Mayweather should be -165

That was the last line I saw before testinggate sunk the bout. My Philippine connections say the fight will be April 1st ish in Vegas. I would expect Mayweather will open this time in the -145 range but who knows??

**snake11eyes** · 11-15-10, 11:59 PM

Mayweather by decision.

**SHADYLANKY** · 11-16-10, 12:10 AM

Floyd will need the money at some point so the fight will happen.IMO If SBR John is correct and it happens around April that would be cool. If Floyd is the favorite Manny will be a great bet.

**bruce_outside** · 11-16-10, 12:11 AM

both floyd and his uncle trainer have legal issues. they will not fight anytime soon, if at all.

**rem sleep** · 11-16-10, 12:28 AM

Olympic style drug testing needs to be done year round otherwise its pointless. Fans just wanna see a good fight. Mayweather says hes trying to clean up the sport yet he shoots xylocaine into his fists before every fight. Manny said yes to the drug testing and Mayweather said I'm on vacation lmao

**MortalLock** · 11-16-10, 12:36 AM

cant wait for this fight

**newjerseydevils** · 11-16-10, 12:42 AM

manny at + odds is a gift. square play or not. maywetaher fights like he is brawling.just swinging wildly. his weakness is his defense. manny will have no problem getting shots to pretty boy floyd's face.

**big0mar** · 11-16-10, 12:52 AM

Originally posted by newjerseydevils

manny at + odds is a gift. square play or not. maywetaher fights like he is brawling.just swinging wildly. his weakness is his defense. manny will have no problem getting shots to pretty boy floyd's face.

**iQon** · 11-16-10, 12:58 AM

Originally posted by big0mar

Originally posted by newjerseydevils

maywetaher fights like he is brawling.just swinging wildly. his weakness is his defense.

SBR ~~PRO~~ Dumbass

**Reno Paul** · 11-16-10, 12:58 AM

I like Pacquaio at a price.....I hope the fight happens and Manny beats the crap out of Mayweather.

**pleasegod** · 11-16-10, 01:28 AM

sbrj, that is the most square play i've ever seen.

**DrunkHorseplayer** · 11-16-10, 01:33 AM

Assuming that real steroid testing takes place, give me Mayweather.

**BobHarvey** · 11-16-10, 01:50 AM

I was concerned about Manny fighting a bigger and heavier fighter but based on Saturday night's performance...he would destroy Mayweather.

Floyd has never been hit like Manny would hit him. And unlike a year ago, Manny has ALL the leverage. Mayweather needs Manny not the other way around.

**RaiderNation MMA** · 11-16-10, 02:07 AM

if this fight did happen, i think you wud have to take ring rust into consideration. and id take pac man, but lets just hope this fight happens first.

**Giuvara** · 11-16-10, 02:15 AM

I just hope the fight will take place and cheer for Manny, the guy with more heart. It will be a show long before they get on the official scale. I wouldn't bet on it right now.