Are you Liberal or Conservative?

[dbnmln]

who cares what we are...let's get $hit done on our land and work together.

[RonPaul2008]

I guess it depends on how you define conservative.

If dismantling our empire in 130 countries is conservative, then i'm conservative
If ending the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan is onservative, then i'm conservative
If repealing the patriot act and respecting the 4th amendment is conservative, then i'm conservative
If ending the war on drugs is conservative, then i'm conservative
If massively cutting the size of the federal government is conservative, then i'n conservative
If believing all powers not granted to the government in the Constitution are reserved to the states and people is conservative, then i'm conservative
If believing no government has a place inside a woman's womb is conservative, then i'm conservative
If believing people should be able to spend their money any way they like as long a they are not hurting others then i'm a conservative
If letting businesses fail is conservative, then i'm conservative
If ending central banking and fiat currency is conservative, then i'm conservative

I often refer to myself as an independent with a heavily libertarian lean.

[jgilmartin]

Anyone that truly believes in Freedom should be a Libertarian.

This, basically.

[antifoil]

i respect libertarians because they are evolutionist and darwinist

[eidolon]

we should rid labels, rid parties, and actually make people focus on what candidates are saying, and not just blindly voting republican, or democrat

imagine if people had to pay attention before they went to the polls

[THE PROFIT]

Im a fukin dirty ass liberal democrat & was born & raised in the county in the Guinness book for being the most republican county not only in the state but in the US a few years back. And trust me, nothing has changed

[Blax0r]

I agree with legalizing potentially new income sources (marijuana, gambling, stem cell research) and executing much needed cuts (useless government programs, the war, no bailouts). This is, more or less, how one should generally go through his or her life: don't waste resources on unnecessary stuff, and invest/research in things with positive EV (w/ an emphasis on value; doesn't necessarily require monetary gain).

No idea what label this is.

[THE PROFIT]

I believe in doing whats right for the american people, and as long as lobbyists are funneling money to politicians this will never happen I dont care if its dem or rep, because they are all money hungry coksukers

[andywend]

Every person on the planet can be placed in one of 2 groups:

Group A: Those that consume more than they produce.
Group B: Those that produce more than they consume.

If you're in Group A then you should vote democratic and are probably a liberal.
If you're in Group B then you should vote republican and are probably a conservative.

The people in Group B can most certainly live without the people in Group A. However, the people in Group A can NOT survive without the people in Group B.

I am in Group B and have very little respect for those in Group A.

[Tomahawk]

It's cool to be a liberal but you have to be conservative if you want to survive...

I'm liberal. Liberals can get really poor in no time and live under a bridge or they can get rich really fast.

[Tomahawk]

Every person on the planet can be placed in one of 2 groups:

Group A: Those that consume more than they produce.
Group B: Those that produce more than they consume.

If you're in Group A then you should vote democratic and are probably a liberal.
If you're in Group B then you should vote republican and are probably a conservative.

I think this says everything in the simple way. In my opinion group A will grow bigger and bigger until robots will do every producing. If robots will be able to produce everything we want without human interraction, then 100% of the people will be in group A.

I'm now working on a robot car software programming project at the university, it is really interesting, but I still won't sit in a car which we programmed.

[Dark Horse]

I guess it depends on how you define conservative.

If dismantling our empire in 130 countries is conservative, then i'm conservative
If ending the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan is onservative, then i'm conservative
If repealing the patriot act and respecting the 4th amendment is conservative, then i'm conservative
If ending the war on drugs is conservative, then i'm conservative
If massively cutting the size of the federal government is conservative, then i'n conservative
If believing all powers not granted to the government in the Constitution are reserved to the states and people is conservative, then i'm conservative
If believing no government has a place inside a woman's womb is conservative, then i'm conservative
If believing people should be able to spend their money any way they like as long a they are not hurting others then i'm a conservative
If letting businesses fail is conservative, then i'm conservative
If ending central banking and fiat currency is conservative, then i'm conservative

I often refer to myself as an independent with a heavily libertarian lean.

I'm pretty much in the same camp, but I'm probably anarchist.

[mikejamm]

ANARCHIST

I'm a gun carrying farm land owner who grows his own food and raises my own cattle, chickens, and pigs. All governments are money sucking scams and should be dismantled entirely! Politicians are nothing more than lying windbags who will say whatever it takes to get elected! I'm amazed at how many ignorant fuks out there actually believe your government is there to help you or that you actually think you can change anything by electing some other douche bag who's no better than the last one! This once great nation is now overrun by foreigners and illegals who all want a fuk'in handout that our bullshit government gives to them, while a homeless Vietnam war veteran dies on some scummy, trash filled alley, oh and lets not forget those peaceful muslim sleeper cells just waiting for their chance to kill more Americans.... bring it on you sick brain washed fuk'ers, we're wait'in on you! Every god damn thing you own is made in China, except the Harley Davidson that I ride. Make no mistake about it, manufacturing is dead in America thanks to corporations and our great political dick heads who sent our jobs away, and it's never coming back! China controls the money, the economy, and your consumption, hmmm I wonder what they'll take over and buy next...... America.

[dbnmln]

ANARCHIST

I'm a gun carrying farm land owner who grows his own food and raises my own cattle, chickens, and pigs. All governments are money sucking scams and should be dismantled entirely! Politicians are nothing more than lying windbags who will say whatever it takes to get elected! I'm amazed at how many ignorant fuks out there actually believe your government is there to help you or that you actually think you can change anything by electing some other douche bag who's no better than the last one! This once great nation is now overrun by foreigners and illegals who all want a fuk'in handout that our bullshit government gives to them, while a homeless Vietnam war veteran dies on some scummy, trash filled alley, oh and lets not forget those peaceful muslim sleeper cells just waiting for their chance to kill more Americans.... bring it on you sick brain washed fuk'ers, we're wait'in on you! Every god damn thing you own is made in China, except the Harley Davidson that I ride. Make no mistake about it, manufacturing is dead in America thanks to corporations and our great political dick heads who sent our jobs away, and it's never coming back! China controls the money, the economy, and your consumption, hmmm I wonder what they'll take over and buy next...... America.

AMEN!!! Nicely put big guy.

[BigdaddyQH]

I think that it is a big msitake to label yourself a Liberal or Conservative. I am certainly a fiscal Conservative. I am also a Conservative when it comes to National Security issues, and the massive illegal problem in this nation.

When it comes to social issues, that is a totally different story. While I am personally against Gay Marriages, I do not think that it is such a big issue that ballots should be cluttered with stupid propositions either way. As long as gays who cohabitate have the same rights as "married" couples do, as they do in California, I think that spending millions on argueing about terminology is a huge waste of money.

I also have no real concern about Prop 19, the Marajuana Initiative in California. My kids have a financial interest in this proposition, so I will vote the same way that they do. It really does not matter. Right now, if you are caught with under an ounce of pot, it is considered to be an "infraction", just like a speeding ticket is. When I was a cop, the only time I would make a pot arrest is if it were tied into another crime that I was arresting a suspect for, such as dealing. I would never make an arrest or write a ticket to someone for pot only. Normally, I would just confiscate the joint, make sure that the person carrying the joint was not under the influence or driving, and kick them loose.

You have to use common sense, and vote for what is best for your particular situation. Voting for Republicans or Democrats just because they are running as a Republican or Democrat is just plain stupid. You vote for the candidate that best fits your personal beliefs on the issues. Normally I vote Republican, but not always. I voted for my wife in the last Presidential Election. I did not like any of the candidates.

[Manaconda]

Obama is gay.

[golfrulz]

lean way left on social and right on fiscal.

[str]

I believe in doing whats right for the american people, and as long as lobbyists are funneling money to politicians this will never happen I dont care if its dem or rep, because they are all money hungry coksukers

Very well said.
AGREED

[NrmlCurvSurfr]

Is capitalist an acceptable answer?

[andywend]

lean way left on social and right on fiscal.

Golfrulz, isn't this a contradiction? How can you lean left when it comes to social spending (i.e. massive entitlement programs) and lean right when it comes to fiscal spending (leaning right means you're in favor of less government spending).

[golfrulz]

social ie; keep the fn gov out of my bedroom. keep the fn gov away from my wife's pee hole[pro choice] make gambing/drugs/prostitution legal. stop all foreign aid. stop all wars. put up a secure fence at the border and shoot to kill and ask questions later. balance the budget. help those who are truly in need. so i might be all over the map here but as you can see i do not adhere to either political party.

[BigdaddyQH]

Then why are you viting for Harry Reid? You mention social issues such as making gambling, drugs, and pristitution legal (of which gambling and prostitution IS legal in Nevada in most counties). But you are going to vote for a man who represents Obama's rubber stamp in the Senate. A man who knows that the Democrats need every Hispanic voter, legal or illegal, to survive. A man who want little, or no security measures taken at the border. A man who wants to spend as much money as possible, regardless of the effect it has on the budget. Tell us why you are going to vote for such a man, if you call yourself a "fiscal" conservative. I think that you are ashamed of admitting to the fact that you are a died-in-the-wool Liberal. You back Obama. You back Reid. You back no Republicans that I know of. That is called being a Liberal.

Are you really trying to sell us that Angle would stop gaming in Nevada? Whould she stop Prostitution? The fact of the matter is that she can NOT do any of that. That is up to the State of Nevada, not it's Representatives in the United States House or Senate. So your argument supporting Reid and calling yourself a fiscal conservative is now shot down in flames.

[golfrulz]

Then why are you viting for Harry Reid? You mention social issues such as making gambling, drugs, and pristitution legal (of which gambling and prostitution IS legal in Nevada in most counties). But you are going to vote for a man who represents Obama's rubber stamp in the Senate. A man who knows that the Democrats need every Hispanic voter, legal or illegal, to survive. A man who want little, or no security measures taken at the border. A man who wants to spend as much money as possible, regardless of the effect it has on the budget. Tell us why you are going to vote for such a man, if you call yourself a "fiscal" conservative. I think that you are ashamed of admitting to the fact that you are a died-in-the-wool Liberal. You back Obama. You back Reid. You back no Republicans that I know of. That is called being a Liberal.

Are you really trying to sell us that Angle would stop gaming in Nevada? Whould she stop Prostitution? The fact of the matter is that she can NOT do any of that. That is up to the State of Nevada, not it's Representatives in the United States House or Senate. So your argument supporting Reid and calling yourself a fiscal conservative is now shot down in flames.

oh contraire my misguided one.....i am not voting FOR dirty harry...i am voting against coyote ugly angle...this whacked out schmuck wants to outlaw abortion even in the cases of incest.....she wanted to ban alcohol...do a search on her positions pal....ya like to put labels on people and categorise them to fit the misconceived notions per how you envision the world......there is a big gray area between reps and dems....we dont all think alike on every position however with that said......i am not a conservative....whatever that means.

[RonPaul2008]

I also have no real concern about Prop 19, the Marajuana Initiative in California. My kids have a financial interest in this proposition, so I will vote the same way that they do. It really does not matter. Right now, if you are caught with under an ounce of pot, it is considered to be an "infraction", just like a speeding ticket is. When I was a cop, the only time I would make a pot arrest is if it were tied into another crime that I was arresting a suspect for, such as dealing. I would never make an arrest or write a ticket to someone for pot only. Normally, I would just confiscate the joint, make sure that the person carrying the joint was not under the influence or driving, and kick them loose.

First of all, for someone to have it somebody needs to grow and get it to those who want it. Second, the rest of the country and world will be effected in a positive way if California passes prop 19.

[philswin]

libertarian on most issues

[dr_wolf]

Until 30 i am socialist what meas?

[EmmaLee]

I am as liberal as one can be...or maybe I am even more than liberal.

[gangeriver]

stupid threads

1- who are jewels in SBR?
2- what fukkin losers use hookah?
3- where the SBR's gays?
4-brock landers threads
5- this thread.

Why some of posters want to talk about personal issues? and why do they insult another posters? who cares conservative or liberal? also what is the difference? There is (in europa) an expression "liberals and democrats like pepsi and cocacola. there isn't any difference" . Liberalists want to reform and anothers don't want blah blah blah....system is same american capitalist system. I think you can't see complete of the picture. ridicilous discussion.

[8ArIvd5]

First of all, for someone to have it somebody needs to grow and get it to those who want it. Second, the rest of the country and world will be effected in a positive way if California passes prop 19.

from what i understand this prop will nullify medical marijuana. and i don't think the feds will allow weed stores for recreation to open, so where's the good in this prop?

[sideloaded]

Im usually whatever the chick Im bangin at the time wants me to be.

[no1here]

I hate goverment/politics altogether and believe that people need to wise up and not bow. I have been controlling them for years and will continue to do so.

[Facepunch]

I am a TRUE Conservative, that has mostly Libertarian Leanings. I hate abortion but would never seek to take away a woman's right to murder her baby. I think that the government should do 2 and only 2 things Provide for the general welfare and common defense. Everything else should be on individual states. Such as Dept. of Education, Energy etc.
I believe that the UN and IMF have raped third world countries for long enough and they should be dissolved.
Stop extending our sovereignty to foreign countries. Protect our borders and stop "moral legislation" to perpetuate the nanny state.

[THE PROFIT]

One of my all time favorite quotes from Sir Winston Churchill

Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has not heart; and any man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains.

[rkelly110]

I am what I am. Life is about compromise. Govt should be too. Liberals compromise,
conservatives don't. Rep's or Dem's that don't compromise, won't get my vote.

This shit of passing laws that the people are strongly against is bullshit. The shit of
not compromising, not doing anything and being the NO party is also bullshit.

The Dem's are at least doing something, maybe not the right things, unlike the NO party.

How about a political ad that says what they will do for us instead of busting on the
other guy/girl.

[Data]

ANARCHIST

I'm a ... land owner...

You are not an anarchist. The anarchists reject private property.