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  • Halfapointoff
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    • 01-25-14
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    #1
    Why is Mattress Mack allowed to take bets?
    It’s illegal what he is doing. Oh btw Tampa bay ray playing second best record on Friday night and it’s 50% capacity. Fun fact: 5 years straight now upper deck has been closed. Embarrassing of a franchise.
  • Eddy Munny
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    • 08-13-13
    • 15759

    #2
    Racism is forbidden on these forums, sir. Please refrain.
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    • JIBBBY
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      • 12-10-09
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      #3
      Should always be allowed to bet. It's a personal choice. Just like buying a bottle of booze.

      Mattress Mack is a degen I like him!
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      • Halfapointoff
        SBR MVP
        • 01-25-14
        • 1675

        #4
        He’s not betting
        He’s a bookie
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        • hawkwind
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          • 04-25-11
          • 4045

          #5
          It's not the Fan Base it's the Stadium & Location needs to move to Tampa. GOD BLESS MM he's a HERO !!! FJB & the CORRUPT US Government led by PATHETIC LIBERALS & MINDLESS SHEEP
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          • Thefix13
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 05-14-21
            • 664

            #6
            Stadium location sucks and there are more fans of other MLB teams in Tampa than their are Rays "fans". It's a shame but awesome to see them exceed expectations with such a low payroll
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            • Eddy Munny
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 08-13-13
              • 15759

              #7
              Originally posted by Halfapointoff
              He’s not betting
              He’s a bookie
              And so you automatically assume it's because she's black?
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              • kyhawk
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                • 06-21-08
                • 1006

                #8
                Tampa Ray stadium is the absolute worst.. The only good thing about it is the bar Fergusons across the street.
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                • Optional
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                  • 06-10-10
                  • 60899

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Halfapointoff
                  It’s illegal what he is doing.
                  It's legal to run a promotional contest.

                  Plus he probably has a permit to do it anyway.

                  Illegal, nah.
                  .
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                  • Halfapointoff
                    SBR MVP
                    • 01-25-14
                    • 1675

                    #10
                    Promotional contest is one thing…this is becoming a “contest” after “contest”.
                    Let’s dissect the contest.
                    Example:Buy $2,000 or more of furniture and if Astros win you get your furniture for free.
                    Mac Sells lets say $100,000 of furniture. Goes to casino bets what the furniture actually cost him on plus money to win the series. (Just because customers bought total of 100,000 worth of furniture, that’s not what it cost him to get.) That’s Juice. He will always make money. He’s taking action in a different form.

                    the real illegal stuff. Double your money if they win contest. Now if contest team wins you get double of what you paid. You get cash! That’s book making
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                    • pavyracer
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                      • 04-12-07
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                      #11
                      I always wondered how the taxes work when the business of selling furniture is mixed with gambling. So I'm assuming when he sells the furniture the sale is recorded in the business name. But when he bets it's under Mack. So how do the taxes work???
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                      • Optional
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                        • 06-10-10
                        • 60899

                        #12
                        Originally posted by pavyracer
                        I always wondered how the taxes work when the business of selling furniture is mixed with gambling. So I'm assuming when he sells the furniture the sale is recorded in the business name. But when he bets it's under Mack. So how do the taxes work???
                        Good question.

                        Only a guess but I'd think it's separate. He simply personally guarantees to fund the refunds if needed. And he just pays the personal tax on the winnings.

                        Although maybe there is also some additional tax advantage in him loaning the company that money on top?

                        I doubt he would be trying to claim a deduction for his bets as "promotional expenses" as that sounds like a can of worms.
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                        • hawkwind
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                          • 04-25-11
                          • 4045

                          #13
                          Agreed Fergusons is a GOOD BAR
                          Originally posted by kyhawk
                          Tampa Ray stadium is the absolute worst.. The only good thing about it is the bar Fergusons across the street.
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                          • marcoloco
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                            • 07-05-10
                            • 3986

                            #14
                            When you have enough money, you get to do things regular people can't and aren't allowed to do.
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                            • JIBBBY
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 12-10-09
                              • 83693

                              #15
                              Mattress Mack bookie. Any bonuses for signing up? LOL..
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                              • Halfapointoff
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                                • 01-25-14
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                                #16
                                You a robot? It’s called hyperbole to make people think or wonder. Kinda like how I wonder how so many people have a butt penetrate love relationship and willing to go to the moon to defend a complete stranger.
                                Mac is a good person and does tremendous work for the community. Good people can do illegal stuff retards. Btw… no moral ground here. Could care less. But he’s kind of getting arrogant. Make me 100,000 in furniture sales and then he will come down from the tower? Fu c k that. Come on retards, let’s buy furniture so he can make profit and he can come down from tower.
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                                • Eddy Munny
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 08-13-13
                                  • 15759

                                  #17
                                  That's a false equivalency. You're likening a furniture giveaway to reparations for dirty deeds done by your forefathers. I'm not sure that's what they had in mind. "Yeah, we're equal now because I have a new queen with a box spring."


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                                  • JIBBBY
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 12-10-09
                                    • 83693

                                    #18
                                    I gotta DREAM Mattress. Best I've ever had, sleep like a baby on it. $1000 for my queen size though. Mack mattresses can kiss my ass...

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                                    • milwaukee mike
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 08-22-07
                                      • 26914

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Optional
                                      It's legal to run a promotional contest.

                                      Plus he probably has a permit to do it anyway.

                                      Illegal, nah.
                                      it used to be that any transaction entered into, where unauthorized wagering (like on a sporting event) was involved, was deemed illegal and void

                                      i'm pretty sure that's still the case in the usa... otherwise in a poker game, we could just say "i'm all in for a mattress" instead of cash and make it legal lol
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                                      • Halfapointoff
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                                        • 01-25-14
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                                        #20
                                        Besides the furniture for free. The main thing he has is double your money. You get your furniture free plus the money you paid for it. That’s a cash prize for a team to win. That’s a f uc king bookie taking action in my world.
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                                        • Halfapointoff
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                          Mattress Mack bookie. Any bonuses for signing up? LOL..
                                          Robot, do you read?
                                          Bonus is free furniture. Then you get a check of what you paid for the furniture. That’s receiving money for a team to win. That’s a bet. You know any locals that give bonuses? But go ahead and defend the guy you don’t know.
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                                          • milwaukee mike
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                                            • 08-22-07
                                            • 26914

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Halfapointoff
                                            Besides the furniture for free. The main thing he has is double your money. You get your furniture free plus the money you paid for it. That’s a cash prize for a team to win. That’s a f uc king bookie taking action in my world.
                                            absolutely... if you buy a $5000 mattress, you're really buying a $3500 mattress and have a $1500 to win $10,000 ticket on the astros to win the ws
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                                            • hawkwind
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                                              • 04-25-11
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                                              #23
                                              PATHETIC "2" lefties
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                                              • pavyracer
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                                                • 04-12-07
                                                • 82524

                                                #24
                                                Did he bet the Astros? Probably gave back all he won before.
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                                                • OldBill
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                                                  • 11-02-21
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                  Did he bet the Astros? Probably gave back all he won before.
                                                  he is a homie any texas team he on em
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                                                  • Halfapointoff
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                                                    #26
                                                    He’s not a homie. He’s an illegal bookie. Did he make bets on Texans last season and contest? Sportsbook should be pissed that he makes more juice than them. His bet lost on the Astros, but he didn’t have to bet what he made in sales on the furniture to recoup (make the Sportsbook pay his customers for the price of the furniture) he bet his actual cost from manufacturer plus overhead. Astros lose he still makes money from the markup. He doesn’t make as much if they lose, but he’s guaranteed a profit. Call it what you will…He’s smart or…..ummm he’s a nice guy, he helps the community, leave that as it may, it’s still illegal what he is doing. Good guys can do illegal stuff too. Let’s remember, he was once a coke head too.
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                                                    • JIBBBY
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                                                      • 12-10-09
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                                                      #27
                                                      He's gained popularity by betting large on sports. Brilliant marketing for his crap mattresses. He's making millions.
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                                                      • Jeep_Life 42
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                                                        #28
                                                        cause hes a mush
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                                                        • pavyracer
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                                                          • 04-12-07
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                          He's gained popularity by betting large on sports. Brilliant marketing for his crap mattresses. He's making millions.
                                                          Do you really think that a guy with a gambling problem is not betting anything else and just bets his promos? I'd bet he bets a lot more of his own money and loses but he doesn't take selfies when he makes these bets. Those bets he leaves the house at 3 am and tells his wife he is going to work but he actually goes to the casino and bets wearing a beard in disquise so they wouldn't know he loses so much.
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                                                          • JIBBBY
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                                                            • 12-10-09
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                            Do you really think that a guy with a gambling problem is not betting anything else and just bets his promos? I'd bet he bets a lot more of his own money and loses but he doesn't take selfies when he makes these bets. Those bets he leaves the house at 3 am and tells his wife he is going to work but he actually goes to the casino and bets wearing a beard in disquise so they wouldn't know he loses so much.
                                                            Well he has a ton of money and hasn't filed bankruptcy yet. That's an indicator that he isn't losing his ass too bad and a full blown degen gambler.

                                                            I think he does it more for marketing. Don't know the man so who knows?
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                                                            • Halfapointoff
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                                                              • 01-25-14
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                                                              #31
                                                              Who said he is losing money?
                                                              You have to file bankruptcy to be a degenerate?
                                                              I think you are responding to the wrong thread.
                                                              just stating facts about his illegal operation, not marketing or if he gambles or if he washes his left nut with a cucumber.
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                                                              • VeggieDog
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                                                                • 02-21-09
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Halfapointoff
                                                                Who said he is losing money?
                                                                You have to file bankruptcy to be a degenerate?
                                                                I think you are responding to the wrong thread.
                                                                just stating facts about his illegal operation, not marketing or if he gambles or if he washes his left nut with a cucumber.
                                                                That's a thing? Have I been missing out on this my whole life?
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                                                                • pavyracer
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                                                                  • 04-12-07
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                                  Well he has a ton of money and hasn't filed bankruptcy yet. That's an indicator that he isn't losing his ass too bad and a full blown degen gambler.

                                                                  I think he does it more for marketing. Don't know the man so who knows?
                                                                  What I'm saying is if he is making 10 million a year from selling matresses but loses 5 million in gambling he is still makes money for his business but he is a degenerate too that could have made much more if he didn't have a gambling addiction.
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                                                                  • JIBBBY
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                                                                    • 12-10-09
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                                    What I'm saying is if he is making 10 million a year from selling matresses but loses 5 million in gambling he is still makes money for his business but he is a degenerate too that could have made much more if he didn't have a gambling addiction.
                                                                    Well he is showing some discipline if he is still making 5 million a year. That's all I'm saying.
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                                                                    • Optional
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                                                                      • 06-10-10
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Of course it's not illegal.

                                                                      1) he isn't dumb enough to NOT structure it in a 100% legal way and 2) which legal authority do you imagine is just ignoring the "illegality" in the face of so much publicity?

                                                                      Great promotion that his customers also love.

                                                                      Not only legal, also ethical.
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