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  • stevenash
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    #1
    Sonny Vaccaro just said the two greatest NCAA basketball coaches are...
    John Thompson and Jerry Tarkanian.
  • ChuckyTheGoat
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    #2
    Originally posted by stevenash
    John Thompson and Jerry Tarkanian.
    As far as TACTICIANS...I'd say NO.

    But it's an interesting comment. A lot of parallels between Thompson/Tark:

    1) The players really loved these coaches. Thompson, in particular, created an identity for the African-American player. Tark was sincere in giving players a 2nd chance. Watch some of the Chris Herren videos. Tark had an impact on Chris's life.

    2) Thompson/Tark each won ONE title. Easily could have won a second. Key games that come to mind, where they took close losses:
    *North Carolina over Georgetown. Ewing was a one-of-a-kind player in that game.
    *Duke over UNLV. Greg Anthony fouling out late was the difference.

    3) If either coach had snared a 2nd title, they'd be higher up on the list.
    Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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    • stevenash
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      #3
      Sonny said those UNLV and Georgetown teams, the players from starters to the last man on the bench all fit the mold of the coach's personality, it's as if Tark and Thompson weren't coaching twelve, but one.

      He also said the Fab Five team was one of the top three teams of all time.
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      • pavyracer
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        #4
        Not even close. The two best coaches were Dean Smith and Coach K. All others learned from those two.
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        • actiondan
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          #5
          wooden and majerus
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          • ChuckyTheGoat
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            #6
            Originally posted by actiondan
            wooden and majerus
            Those two names did flash in my head:

            *Wooden for the success that was un-equaled. Helps to have thoroughbred players.

            *Majerus really has to be near the top on strategy/teaching. Made the championship game with the Utes.
            Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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            • Mr.Capone
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              #7
              Coaches

              Wow Majures great call I loved that guy, anyone remember that almost beat that UNLV team in sweet 16, not sure if it was the yr UNLV OR LOST to Duke. They had a great forward named Paris Mcardie on the Cardinals what a game
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                #8
                Originally posted by Mr.Capone
                Wow Majures great call I loved that guy, anyone remember that almost beat that UNLV team in sweet 16, not sure if it was the yr UNLV OR LOST to Duke. They had a great forward named Paris Mcardie on the Cardinals what a game
                Capone, got a nice clip for you from that game:


                Majerus was old-school. He had that ability of game-planning where he could TRY to get a less-talented unit to beat the better team.

                The Regional Final win over Arizona was a good one. That was mostly game-planning. And he had the perfect Pt Guard (Miller) to control the game.
                Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                • Mr.Capone
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                  #9
                  My best

                  John Wooden

                  Tom Izzo , this guy has to recruit against Ohio State, Michigan and Indiana year after year, he gets the most out of average players. Look back how many all Americans has he had will his success?

                  Other guys not as high on list

                  In my Opinion UNC, DUKE, KENTUCKY, Kansas always got the best players it made there success easier.
                  Jay Wright Nova
                  Bob Huggins Cincy, West Virginia
                  Mark Few Zags
                  The Bear from UTEP
                  Lou Henson Indiana
                  Gene Kaddy Purdue
                  Jim Boeheim Cuse
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                  • Mr.Capone
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
                    Capone, got a nice clip for you from that game:


                    Majerus was old-school. He had that ability of game-planning where he could TRY to get a less-talented unit to beat the better team.

                    The Regional Final win over Arizona was a good one. That was mostly game-planning. And he had the perfect Pt Guard (Miller) to control the game.
                    That is really cool, I think he coached at St Louis and got them in tourney too, this guy has to be the best sleeper Head coach all time, success success. You know he live in Motel's all the time too !
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                    • ChuckyTheGoat
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                      #11
                      Capone:

                      *My buddy (and his dad) were friends of Majerus.

                      Got to meet him. Fair to say that he's a different guy than the funny character he presented on TV.

                      Yes, as a bachelor, he loved the motel life. Go to practice, come home and find your room cleaned. How can you not like that?

                      And he did have success at St Louis, which might have seemed like an impossible task. Very tough loss vs Mich St, or they'd have gone further. Majerus was a true basketball lifer, always teaching.
                      Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                      • Mr.Capone
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
                        Capone:

                        *My buddy (and his dad) were friends of Majerus.

                        Got to meet him. Fair to say that he's a different guy than the funny character he presented on TV.

                        Yes, as a bachelor, he loved the motel life. Go to practice, come home and find your room cleaned. How can you not like that?

                        And he did have success at St Louis, which might have seemed like an impossible task. Very tough loss vs Mich St, or they'd have gone further. Majerus was a true basketball lifer, always teaching.
                        That is really cool wish I met the Legend, he loved also have fresh new towels I think ESPN had a story on him. Do you remember the UNLV game they lost in the tournament?
                        I think Keith Van Horne was on the UTAH team with the pt guard Miller ? Also this was a European guy too if I recall
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                        • ChuckyTheGoat
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                          Capone:

                          *I do remember Ball St's close loss vs UNLV. It's in this bracket:


                          As for the 1998 Utah team that made the finals, yes, I'm very familiar with that team:


                          *Van Horn had been drafted #2 overall the year b4, so Keith was gone.
                          *Andre Miller was a great pt-guard. And he was a great pro, too.
                          *The Euro you're referring to = Hanno Mottola (from Finland). Goal was to become the 1st Finn to make the NBA, and he did play a few years in the league.
                          *Michael Doleac was the big center. Played in the NBA for ten years.
                          *Alex Jensen and Drew Hansen were the other two starters.
                          *Britton Johnsen was the key reserve. Guy could sky, had some great dunks.
                          Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                          • mjsuax13
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                            #14
                            Tark The Shark. One of my favorites.
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                            • DrunkHorseplayer
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                              #15
                              Take away Patrick Ewing and John Thompson might be unknown outside of DC
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                              • Mr.Capone
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by DrunkHorseplayer
                                Take away Patrick Ewing and John Thompson might be unknown outside of DC
                                Don't forget he coaches Alonzo Morning which latterner eat alive, And one of the best under 6 foot guys Allen Iverson, he also got pub from those guys !
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                                • Mr.Capone
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
                                  Capone:

                                  *I do remember Ball St's close loss vs UNLV. It's in this bracket:


                                  As for the 1998 Utah team that made the finals, yes, I'm very familiar with that team:


                                  *Van Horn had been drafted #2 overall the year b4, so Keith was gone.
                                  *Andre Miller was a great pt-guard. And he was a great pro, too.
                                  *The Euro you're referring to = Hanno Mottola (from Finland). Goal was to become the 1st Finn to make the NBA, and he did play a few years in the league.
                                  *Michael Doleac was the big center. Played in the NBA for ten years.
                                  *Alex Jensen and Drew Hansen were the other two starters.
                                  *Britton Johnsen was the key reserve. Guy could sky, had some great dunks.
                                  Did you remember that Utah all the names or looked some of them up pretty dam good ! Thanks for taking me back, some people use music to take them back me sports especially college basketball !
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                                  • ChuckyTheGoat
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Mr.Capone
                                    Did you remember that Utah all the names or looked some of them up pretty dam good ! Thanks for taking me back, some people use music to take them back me sports especially college basketball !
                                    I swear I knew all those names. I followed the Utes closely back then.

                                    I double-checked the spelling on Mottola b/c of the weird Euro spelling.
                                    Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                    • ChuckyTheGoat
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                                      Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                      • Mr.Capone
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
                                        Cool pic, they lost in final 4 game in tough defensive game ?. They had some no name talent on that team
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                                        • dark star
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                                          #21
                                          Majerus for sure....FWIW what Jay Wright did at Villanova is mind boggling
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                                          • texhooper
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                                            #22
                                            Everyone knows Dick Schnazz and Anally Feelmey were the two greatest college coaches of all time. They got incredible penetration.
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                                            • ChuckyTheGoat
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Mr.Capone
                                              Cool pic, they lost in final 4 game in tough defensive game ?. They had some no name talent on that team
                                              Capone, they BEAT North Carolina in the semi-finals. Then they lost to Kentucky in the final.

                                              Kentucky was the team that gave Utah fits. KY knocked out the Utes at least 3x in the tournament. Tough matchup, Utes couldn't match their talent/depth.

                                              In the Final, Doleac had to play vs two future NBA centers. Wore him out in the 2nd half.
                                              Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                              • RockBottom
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
                                                Capone, got a nice clip for you from that game:




                                                Majerus was old-school. He had that ability of game-planning where he could TRY to get a less-talented unit to beat the better team.

                                                The Regional Final win over Arizona was a good one. That was mostly game-planning. And he had the perfect Pt Guard (Miller) to control the game.
                                                Chandler Thompson put on a show in the Indiana state finals with his dunks, beat undefeated Elkhart Concord with Shawn Kemp.
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                                                • unde0087
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                                                  #25
                                                  Qhoever that retard is, UNC has played in half the NC in the last 6 years. And Roy has won more and played in more than anyone you can list. Roy has a tournament record that embarrasses most coaches.
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                                                    #26
                                                    Not to mention he was taught by one of the greatest of all time. And one of the most greatest people of all time. He is front row of every game played at UNC. Guy is one of the greatest. Won numerous titles, played in more championship games then then next 5 coaches combined.
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                                                    • unde0087
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                                                      #27
                                                      Sonny can blow ms
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                                                      • unde0087
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                                                        #28
                                                        Roy 3 NC played in 7, next, no one can touch his ball sack
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                                                        • unde0087
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                                                          #29
                                                          But it was cool those dudes won 1
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                                                          • unde0087
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                                                            #30
                                                            Roy won a title on sanctions.
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                                                            • unde0087
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                                                              #31
                                                              Someone give me a name that has 3 titles. and has coached more national title games. I can think of one.
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                                                              • ChuckyTheGoat
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by dark star
                                                                Majerus for sure....FWIW what Jay Wright did at Villanova is mind boggling
                                                                I've been a fan of Wright's. If you listen to him, he understands tactics.

                                                                And his sideline demeanor was perfect. Got his guys to relax and play.
                                                                Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                                                • Mr.Capone
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by RockBottom
                                                                  Chandler Thompson put on a show in the Indiana state finals with his dunks, beat undefeated Elkhart Concord with Shawn Kemp.
                                                                  That is a great throw back clip, I remember when Kentucky had like the best team and UNC upset them Pitino may had been the coach or Tubby
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                                                                  • Mr.Capone
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
                                                                    Capone, they BEAT North Carolina in the semi-finals. Then they lost to Kentucky in the final.

                                                                    Kentucky was the team that gave Utah fits. KY knocked out the Utes at least 3x in the tournament. Tough matchup, Utes couldn't match their talent/depth.

                                                                    In the Final, Doleac had to play vs two future NBA centers. Wore him out in the 2nd half.
                                                                    Yeah Doleac wasn't he the only big they had too like 6-10 or 6-9, they were a smaller team i think
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                                                                    • ChuckyTheGoat
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Mr.Capone
                                                                      That is a great throw back clip, I remember when Kentucky had like the best team and UNC upset them Pitino may had been the coach or Tubby
                                                                      It's most likely THIS season, Capone:

                                                                      ...Heels beat top-seed KY in Elite 8.

                                                                      UCLA had an awesome team that year. Behind Ed (and Charles) O'Bannon, Bruins took the title. Had to get the buzzer-beater vs Missouri in 2nd round.
                                                                      Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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