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  • RangeFinder
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 10-27-16
    • 8041

    #1
    Get your Labor Day winner here...
    Navy +103

    Bet y'all thought it was going to be MLB, didn't you? lol
  • KVB
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 05-29-14
    • 74817

    #2
    Picked up BYU at the open here Range and added them to the KVB NCAAF UPSET Basket a little later...

    243 7-Sep BYU -120
    In the mud yo go!!!

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    • jjgold
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 07-20-05
      • 388189

      #3
      Ranger we like the play
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      • KVB
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 05-29-14
        • 74817

        #4
        Navy should have been favored by a TD, they weren't.

        In fact, they couldn't even hold the 1 point favorite.

        Something stinks there and the UPSET Basket sniffed it out.

        Might be closer than the models predict.

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        • veriableodds
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 08-22-17
          • 5093

          #5
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          • Memento
            SBR MVP
            • 01-28-15
            • 1192

            #6
            Navy TT O 23.5 (-120)
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            • RangeFinder
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 10-27-16
              • 8041

              #7
              Originally posted by KVB
              Navy should have been favored by a TD, they weren't.

              In fact, they couldn't even hold the 1 point favorite.

              Something stinks there and the UPSET Basket sniffed it out.

              Might be closer than the models predict.

              K, the Under got jammed. What's your model say?
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              • KVB
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 05-29-14
                • 74817

                #8
                Model is on the other side of both pressures in the market.

                The raw forecast has Navy scoring 41 or 42 points to BYU's 27 or 28 points.

                Remember, this is an early season forecast right now.

                So yes, I bought BYU...lol.

                I do adjust the raw forecast and the UPSET Basket should have shown a better line on BYU but I was days late posting so I posted the most available at the time.

                Here's the UPSET Basket this week...

                Date NCAAF UPSET Basket 1 Unit Closing Beat BTC ML
                per bet Line Closer? Average
                241 5-Sep M TENN ST +155 -1 151 Y 0.04
                243 7-Sep BYU -120
                403 12-Sep COAST CAR +150
                Looks like the Coast Car line is getting away from me here.

                Originally posted by KVB
                I have another basket to introduce. The KVB NCAAF UPSET Basket will have an initial screen of competitive underdogs, primarily on the road. This is a moneyline basket of bets that uses a stacking percentages forecast along with market analyses to determine the appropriate play.

                There could be quite a few plays in this basket as well. It will be tracked and again it can be used as a gauge but has had a very decent ROI over the last few years by itself. There will not be large underdogs in this basket as one of the factors will be competitive underdogs. If a competitive underdog is mispriced and is large upset in the market, it won’t fall into this basket, even though it may be a good bet....
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                • pavyracer
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 04-12-07
                  • 82489

                  #9
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                  • Orbison
                    SBR MVP
                    • 09-07-20
                    • 4692

                    #10
                    BYU is better and bigger in the trenches on both sides and returns their QB but lost their stud TE. Navy with new QB but all top RBs are back, secondary might be an issue though. i hate backing BYU no matter the opponent or location, but trust them even less as road chalk. also had limited time to prepare for the Navy option

                    passing on pre-game action, will look for value in-game
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                    • PaperTrail07
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 08-29-08
                      • 20423

                      #11
                      Navy will fumble the game away IMO
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                      • KVB
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 05-29-14
                        • 74817

                        #12
                        Originally posted by KVB
                        Navy should have been favored by a TD, they weren't.

                        In fact, they couldn't even hold the 1 point favorite.

                        Something stinks there and the UPSET Basket sniffed it out.

                        Might be closer than the models predict.
                        Originally posted by RangeFinder
                        K, the Under got jammed. What's your model say?


                        That public gauge I make says navy wins 31-24.

                        Even CRIS opened this thing at Navy -3 but didn't hang the moneyline until dropping the line. Like I said, should have a better number on the BYU moneyline but they were tough to get even from the outset.

                        Books like 5D got away with bigger early moneylines on BYU but they can do that because as I mentioned in another post in some other thread lol, the risk managment quickly neutralizes us early buyers there.

                        Money is driving the market up for BYU, slowly but surely and while it does make some sense, the way the books are upping the line is a little odd. It's either hold off and blink, or move early or do nothing.

                        It seems there was the early move and while they appeared to hold off once all the houses picked up the line, it's been more of a slow bleed up. While things have slowed, it's possible we are seeing an attempt to create steam on BYU in light of what is basically split action.

                        In another hour we should see just what the books were planning here, they'll make the move, or make none. Does it give us the answer, not necessarily, but I see a competitive game here and if the BYU line continues to climb and they are not the answer, then Navy could make it embarrassing for the BYU backers as it's not what they bring...

                        Let's see what happens in that last hour of trading.

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                        • KVB
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 05-29-14
                          • 74817

                          #13
                          I almost forgot, lol.

                          I picked up the UNDER in my main NCAAF Totals Fund on the morning of September 4th...

                          Originally posted by KVB
                          The KVB NCAAF Totals Fund has picked up...

                          244 BYU/NAVY UNDER 49.5 (-106)...
                          Just might beat the market here before it's all said and done.

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                          • KVB
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 05-29-14
                            • 74817

                            #14
                            BYU shuts down the Navy Rushing attack right off the bat.

                            That's not good for Navy. Army played ball control, Navy needs to, but not a good start for them.

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                            • KVB
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 05-29-14
                              • 74817

                              #15
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                              • pologq
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 10-07-12
                                • 19899

                                #16
                                i just came for the mud wrestling
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                                • jjgold
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 07-20-05
                                  • 388189

                                  #17
                                  What a mismatch
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                                  • KVB
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 05-29-14
                                    • 74817

                                    #18
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                                    • Shute
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 03-20-17
                                      • 11835

                                      #19
                                      Tomorrow is a new day Ranger
                                      Pick up the pieces and move on
                                      Best of luck
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                                      • Bostongambler
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 02-01-08
                                        • 35581

                                        #20
                                        Best of luck with your future wagers, Glenn.
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                                        • KnuckleHeadz
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 12-11-19
                                          • 8194

                                          #21
                                          Will Navy even score Glenn?
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                                          • veriableodds
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 08-22-17
                                            • 5093

                                            #22
                                            a new day ranger
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