Gulfstream Park Saturday 4/4 Thread

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  • Jellymancan
    SBR MVP
    • 03-09-20
    • 3682

    #106
    Originally posted by gauchojake
    Honestly I am just happy we have any racing at all.
    Same.... even though after making a couple hundred last week, down six hundred this week
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    • Louisvillekid1
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 10-17-07
      • 52143

      #107
      Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
      you can always post in these threads, ill clear it out though

      Great question, So in general sloppy track for dirt horses is an overrated angle. Good horses run pretty much the same. However there are certain horses that absolutely hate it, and picking those is how I use that angle in handicapping to toss a horse. I will always give horses a chance to show me what they can do on the flip side, if they have say ran both races on off tracks and gets the fast surface for the first time. I want to give them a chance.

      On the turf, i believe it plays a much bigger factor as they are more particular horses. A yielding turf track can make a difference of the pace, as opposed to firm turf track. Some horses have a more difficult time of it , trying to get the late kick going.

      I could write for hours on just that one question and many like it.

      I give the cliff notes, every capper is different.

      But as always its all situational.
      Just to elaborate on this , when playing horses in the slop you generally wanna be forwardly placed early. Jockeys wear several sets of googles but many horses don’t like the mud kicked back in their face. When you see one close covered in mud , you that pony is a goodie ...

      when handicapping , I look at the conditions 1st, then try and determine who’s going to the front . Estimated the pace is extremely important

      try and play the race out In your mind

      but I’ll have to write much more on which tracks are faster than others

      believe it or not times aren’t always similar

      it’s so much to write on,

      my advice pick a track

      follow the barns and riders

      start from there

      I learn everyday

      and been doing it 20/+ years

      I’ll continue to write when im
      playing

      you can pick up a few things along the way

      I need several thousands of pages to share the info

      and if even then

      it’s all situational

      thanks for the feedback
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      • Louisvillekid1
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 10-17-07
        • 52143

        #108
        When you follow one track go start , you can look at the running lines and know the top 3 finishers , know the horses...

        their are other tools out there like formulator that I use to help with trainer stats

        it’s comparable to baseball splits

        tendencies

        after you finally grasp handicapping this sport

        you gotta then learn how to wager properly , and it can be so addicting

        that judgement and passing on races becomes ultra important

        jeez I need chapters on breeding alone

        you can’t read a book and figure it out

        you have to love the sport #1

        it eats the best of best alive

        with that being said, if your not a degen , you play rather cheaply

        no gamble is more self satisfying
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        • Louisvillekid1
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 10-17-07
          • 52143

          #109
          Most horse bettors at OTB, are disappointed even after wins

          they say “ I shoulda Woulda” after a win

          ive done the same

          still do at times

          attack a track / meet

          with a plan

          it’s not gonna work out a lot



          don’t chase



          however , keep an eye on the tote, as some overlays create value

          but that is both the gift and curse of this Game

          ”it only takes one”

          yeah well that philosophy applied wrongly with you have you playing Australia B , until 2am

          I’ve been through it all

          tvg dudes are all rich kids ,

          the girls on there are horsemen

          I’m not a horsemen , haven’t even fed a horse a carrot/ apple / peppermint

          I’m also not in the owner game

          str teaches me everyday , I think sometimes he sees my posts

          and says “ ah man, I gotta respond to this “

          I’m just handicapper , hoping one day I can get closer to the sport an any fashion.
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          • Louisvillekid1
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 10-17-07
            • 52143

            #110
            I love maiden races , because I feel I have the strongest edge on the public

            certain times the tote board can help advise you as well

            remember it’s a pari mutual pool

            however when you get familiar with a meet

            you can learn what horses did after the fact

            and that can help grade the previous race

            nobody wins betting every race
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