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    This thread about cris is fake news. Subject should be something like...deposit options limited for NJ players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natty68 View Post
    Not a totally unprecedented situation. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Bovada kick out New Yorkers quite a few years ago?
    If you live in NJ, you cannot use GTbets, Bovada, and Intertops. Been several years for bovada. GTbets is in the past two or so.

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    Ok

    Sbr will have to check into this to see if official NJ not allowed

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    Yeah I forgot how the degenerates on SBR know whatís going on. Most donít have jobs yet they think they know everything.

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    I called this back in June. All you bozos who said "Offshore is never going away....." The end is coming faster than you think......

    Originally Posted by ABEHONEST
    Now, I could be blind or have one of those closed minds, but excuse me, where is the big plus of leaving your house or home town, go thru heavy traffic, hot weather, deal with idiotic driver's or people in general, and look for and edge at these new Book's?
    I can't see it right now, but maybe some smart SBR member can help me remove my blinder's?
    Thanks, for any eyeopening help.

    And drinks being free? Are we not all expected to tip these free-drink server's? If 95% of patron's tip for free drinks, nope, they are not free.



    Because you will get paid if you win. You won't have the hassle of a withdrawal fee. The check won't get lost in the mail. You won't have to deal with Bitcoin, or Walmart, or bonus rollovers. You won't be breaking the law placing a wager, and you won't be sending money to Maria Conchita Alonzo in Peru or Honduras, or wherever. The Feds are coming when the states get this in place..... and offshore will fade into the sunset, because the square players will be betting at the legal sportsbook. The only ones offshore will be the credit players and the sharps.

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    By this line of reasoning, if they're going after offshore cuz they're not getting their cut then wouldn't they have to go after the gazillion locals using web sites and phone apps with the same vigor? By order of magnitude aren't they the worse criminals? Jus sayin.....It seems like a slippery slope
    Last edited by Natty68; 08-21-19 at 12:36 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    I truly don't understand this.

    All because New Jersey can push it? How? Go after Bookmaker?

    If states could go after offshore.... why did they wait til now? They have backing from the Feds?

    Absolutely makes zero sense to me.

    If you could go after them now....

    You could of went after them 10 years ago.
    Because 10 years ago the off shore books weren't costing them any money. Now, they view any non regulated book taking action from someone in NJ as their direct competition.
    Last edited by TwitchySeal; 08-21-19 at 02:21 AM.

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    I feel bad for people stuck playing at USA books

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwitchySeal View Post
    Because 10 years ago the off shore books weren't costing them any money. Now, they view any non regulated book taking action from someone in NJ as their direct competition.
    One type of book is taxable and one isn't

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    Seems like SBR home staff would have a definitive answer by now

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    Sammy I do not think any answer

    NOBODY KNOWS

    CALL ME

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwitchySeal View Post
    Because 10 years ago the off shore books weren't costing them any money. Now, they view any non regulated book taking action from someone in NJ as their direct competition.
    You serious with this post?

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    Bookmaker post up business tiny compared to credit business

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    You serious with this post?
    Yes. What makes you disagree?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Sammy I do not think any answer

    NOBODY KNOWS

    CALL ME


    JJ they kicked 2 guys out... someone real close that works down there will confirm soon

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    Brokers will flourish in future

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Brokers will flourish in future


    capt jack of NJ said the same thing... bovada up next.................NJ is at war with offshore

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrtop7 View Post
    capt jack of NJ said the same thing... bovada up next.................NJ is at war with offshore
    AFAIK Bovada already locks out players from NJ? (And NV, DE and MD)??

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtneer1212 View Post
    I called this back in June. All you bozos who said "Offshore is never going away....." The end is coming faster than you think......

    Originally Posted by ABEHONEST
    Now, I could be blind or have one of those closed minds, but excuse me, where is the big plus of leaving your house or home town, go thru heavy traffic, hot weather, deal with idiotic driver's or people in general, and look for and edge at these new Book's?
    I can't see it right now, but maybe some smart SBR member can help me remove my blinder's?
    Thanks, for any eyeopening help.

    And drinks being free? Are we not all expected to tip these free-drink server's? If 95% of patron's tip for free drinks, nope, they are not free.



    Because you will get paid if you win. You won't have the hassle of a withdrawal fee. The check won't get lost in the mail. You won't have to deal with Bitcoin, or Walmart, or bonus rollovers. You won't be breaking the law placing a wager, and you won't be sending money to Maria Conchita Alonzo in Peru or Honduras, or wherever. The Feds are coming when the states get this in place..... and offshore will fade into the sunset, because the square players will be betting at the legal sportsbook. The only ones offshore will be the credit players and the sharps.
    Pretty sure the placing of a wager isn't the illegal part.

    Bookmaker always pays out.

    Sending money P2P to a random name in Nicaragua or w/e is like 8 years past expiration.

    Offshore might die off as stateside books spread but this is a weird list of grievances.

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    Whete is he hassle with big books??

    Never has been

    Guys fuk up who get slow paid at top books plus everyone loses anyway so getting paid extremely rare

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    so what's the wind up of this? is cris or bookmaker cutting off nj residents? if so that is big news! I am in NYS and can still deposit.

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    I still have account

    Never changed address still Nj

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    It's silly that NJ would go after offshore, or any state for that matter. If they aren't meeting their numbers or expectations it's because they don't have mobile options yet or they overestimated their numbers. They need to leave offshore alone.

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    NJ 100000% full mobile
    Been like that for a while

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusherrr View Post
    It's silly that NJ would go after offshore, or any state for that matter. If they aren't meeting their numbers or expectations it's because they don't have mobile options yet or they overestimated their numbers. They need to leave offshore alone.
    They could be after them or BM could be takng a proactive approach with certain states. I wouldn't care if it was a lower rated book but if BM makes a move like this it would get my attention. I am in NYS and Bovada would not allow NY residents to play there for a number of years and now we are able to use them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusherrr View Post
    It's silly that NJ would go after offshore, or any state for that matter. If they aren't meeting their numbers or expectations it's because they don't have mobile options yet or they overestimated their numbers. They need to leave offshore alone.
    also i did read they told a few sites with links to offshores that they had to take them down and i think they did. oddshark i think it was? I can see them clamping down on offshores they are competition now lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by patswin View Post
    also i did read they told a few sites with links to offshores that they had to take them down and i think they did. oddshark i think it was? I can see them clamping down on offshores they are competition now lol
    It's frustrating because regulated/legal books are so crappy. It took WSOP.com 15 days to pay me out early on this summer. Offshores pay me within minutes, or same day with bitcoin. Most of them at least.

    If they go after offshores and don't have regulated poker sites people in those states have no options (besides NV/DE/NJ) to play poker online either.

    It seems, for the most part, if you ask about NJ they shut you off. If you don't, you can continue as you were, with crypto at least.

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    Very little difference in pay times
    USA vs offshore


    A few NJ places real fast

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