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08-19-19 06:20 PM #36
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08-19-19 06:51 PM #37
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08-19-19 06:59 PM #38
Correct. But we all knew... that majority of the offshore owners... had ties to the USA.... one way or another. Some even said... they wouldn't even step foot in America again. So, why are they afraid now? Because some State said so? Only way they could do anything... if BIG BROTHER Feds stepped in. And... even so.... why did they wait this long? Do they have any jurisdiction anyways?
Originally Posted by Mrtop7
It seems like someone fukked up during the entire process.... did the owner's think by changing .com to a .eu would set them free? Why are they afraid now? Is Costa Rica authorities going to capture the owners for the USA? Or would the USA be allowed to set foot on the soil to capture them?
Like I said... why are you afraid now? You weren't afraid 10 years ago.
Totally baffled by the balls of NJ. Furthermore, totally in awe of these owners "TURTLING" now.
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08-19-19 07:32 PM #39
well you get indicted . You have to show up for that. If you don't , you would be breaking the law. So you are now breaking the law. The USA has strong political ties to C.R. ...you want to piss them off more? Then you are rolling the dice. that is why people surrender. ... are you forgetting they chased out pinny and the others. That is why they never came back ..The feds have a lot on their plate. than chasing books in other countries. Maybe nothing happened to them and they know it is better to leave the state. Who knows what the reasons were. Then again they could of received a letter in the mail to stop what they are doing in NJ. Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot
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08-20-19 08:56 AM #40
Any current player from NJ get kicked out?
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08-20-19 09:01 AM #41
There were no state laws in place for New Jersey to do anything with before. Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot
There was no govt department responsible for enforcement of gaming laws charged with protecting state revenue.
And who said NJ "is going after bookmaker" anyway?
CRIS a legal business, who takes their own legal advice, and is just as likely to have made the decision themselves as be reacting to anyone.
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08-20-19 09:13 AM #42
Never meant to direct it totally at Bookmaker. It was a general statement towards all books offshore. Originally Posted by Optional
USA only goes after select books? I would imagine it would be directed to all books in the next few years.
If they are starting to turtle now... then there won't be an offshore for US Players anymore.
Why didn't Nevada care for the last 20 years? Were they in bed with some books offshore? Doesn't make any sense about New Jersey's little dikk.
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08-20-19 09:20 AM #43
Money
Things change... Shit Happens
Pick winners
GL
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08-20-19 09:23 AM #44
I honestly have no inside info and do not know what will happen. Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot
In other places, the legally responsible books like Bookmaker and Pinnacle have tried not to step on toes of mainstream licensed jurisdictions like UK and Australia and pulled out. Either on their own or after being asked. I do not think there were any fights about it.
As far as other offshores... most of us, including the DOJ only appeared to find out for sure who 5D Tony after he went missing. I don't think the books setup like that without an identified USA connected operator will be reacting the same way as CRIS personally.
But we'll have to wait and see. Laws that ban promoting their service into legal states are a lot easier to prove than breaches under the old federal laws, and probably have a lot scarier penalties available.
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08-20-19 09:25 AM #45
Mymophead, pm me if you want the answer.
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08-20-19 09:30 AM #46
Devastating if you can't use offshore because of regulated/licensed sites.
American products are absolute garbage compared to offshore. It's possible to make money betting with offshore as they don't limit you as much, have great promotions/bonuses and better lines. For the guys betting $20 a game I'm sure they love the legal and regulated options. Anyone serious definitely does not.
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08-20-19 09:50 AM #47
Originally Posted by Shifty
me and another player....So it is what it is....There must be more.. It started 2 weeks ago.
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08-20-19 09:54 AM #48
This
Originally Posted by Crusherrr
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08-20-19 10:08 AM #49
Originally Posted by Sam Odom
Originally Posted by jjgold
Right...
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08-20-19 10:29 AM #50
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08-20-19 11:27 AM #51
So how did it go down? Were you trying to re-up for football or were the accounts active for the past few weeks. Originally Posted by Shifty
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08-20-19 11:36 AM #52
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08-20-19 12:46 PM #53
Yeah can we get some more details? Did they specifically tell you they won't take your deposit because you were located in NJ? Originally Posted by Shifty
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08-20-19 02:26 PM #54
Originally Posted by jjgold
i can get into the account.... they won't take a deposit from NJ ... nothing to do with the computer
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08-20-19 03:26 PM #55
I was able to generate a bitcoin address. I'm in NJ Originally Posted by Mrtop7
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08-20-19 03:32 PM #56
It seems nothing official
Maybe tech glitches
Bitcoin should be fine?
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08-20-19 04:03 PM #57
Same here. Originally Posted by Waterstpub87
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08-20-19 04:13 PM #58
Originally Posted by Bluehorseshoe
i never tried it....they said it to me in the chat room
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08-20-19 04:15 PM #59
Originally Posted by jjgold
nothing to do with the computer.... they said it to me in their chat area
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08-20-19 04:24 PM #60
Send them a small amount of Bitcoin. I bet they'd take it. Originally Posted by Mrtop7
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08-20-19 04:32 PM #61
Bullshit
No way NJ can stop offshore
If they could, they would have YEARS ago
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08-20-19 04:34 PM #62
Originally Posted by Brock Landers
why don't you ask them ?
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08-20-19 04:35 PM #63
Originally Posted by Shifty
let me explain it to you..... they said it in the chat area.... why would i try ?
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08-20-19 04:43 PM #64
Originally Posted by Waterstpub87
ask them in chat room with cashier or phone
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08-20-19 04:46 PM #65
Originally Posted by Brock Landers
years ago no legal in NJ
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08-20-19 04:49 PM #66
Originally Posted by Waterstpub87
call them on the phone or chat room with cashier
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08-20-19 06:20 PM #67
Maybe you shouldnt ask? Maybe if you ask theu say no, but if you dont act like a fed, you wo nt have an issue Originally Posted by Mrtop7
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08-20-19 06:40 PM #68
Not a totally unprecedented situation. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Bovada kick out New Yorkers quite a few years ago?
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08-20-19 06:51 PM #69
been playing there for years.... they know me.... cashed out already in the past... Originally Posted by Waterstpub87
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08-20-19 06:54 PM #70
Bovada banned New Jersey years ago. Originally Posted by Natty68
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