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    RUDYmentary: Pro tip on tracking plays via SBRSpreadsheet

    When using the sbrspreadsheet always keep your amount risked in terms of MONEY...not units.




    Why?

    Because you do not cash out units, you cash out cash. You might start with $10,000 and only bet between 1%-5% of your bankroll. $100-$500 the whole football season is not unrealistic, but life happens. Maybe you lose a job or a kid gets sick. Maybe you inherit money, get a pay raise, or hell even win at gambling.

    Let's say you go on a huge upswing, 50units up....now have $15,000 going to March Madness. Your 1% bet will now be $150 but you are tracking it with 1 unit, the same as your $10k bankroll in football.

    So in this scenario a win in football was worth around $100, while a basketball loss cost you around $165. Spreadsheet shows 1-1 and down the juice, but you are actually down $65. Same goes the opposite direction, your 1-1 might show down juice units, but you are actually up money

    If you have started with units, only way to do it is keep increasing units risked. So take the $10,000 roll that is now $20,000:

    your 1%-5% bets will now need to be tracked as 2%, 4%, 6%, 8%, and 10%, or 2,4,6,8, and 10 units on your spreadsheet.

    very hard to keep up with that over the long haul.

    Units do not matter, only cash

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    Players advocate with tremendous advise

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    i am just trying to keep posters away from headaches in July when a "unit" needs raised or lowered

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    i guess noone tracks plays in terms of units on spreadsheet here or various other ways

    GOOD JOB

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    SHARP

    always money bets

    though, they never changed in $973k risked


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    Great job, Rudy!

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    thanks bossman

    just trying to help those that do not know better

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    Will this be a weekly series?


    Good shit

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    how many sheets ? ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidcudi92 View Post
    Will this be a weekly series?


    Good shit
    no, i am just motivated for 2019

    i hate reading much less writing then proofreading

    used to have a monthly newsletter back in the day (not spam, just posted here)

    Quote Originally Posted by sweethook View Post
    how many sheets ? ...
    sheets????????/

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    Iím no mathematician, but couldnít u easily calculate dollar amount won based on units and starting bankroll?

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    https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...roll-bets.html


    this thread is a PRIME example of why i am right

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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...roll-bets.html


    this thread is a PRIME example of why i am right
    go review this thread and tell me what a 6.8 unit bet is

    EXACTLY MY POINT

    when his thread is updated with a win, itll be tracked as a huge win

    but that unit is actually much less than the unit he started with

    OK?

    i win again

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    Thatís good shit right there. Sharp advice. Definitely makes it easier to avoid discrepancies. So you wonít have to explain yourself when the numbers look off. Thanks Rudy.


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    hey cuse, i am either all in or broke so i dont track

    but i am tired of these guys that want to act big time on threads

    and want to help people that are actually tracking


    it is very humbling to admit you only bet xxx amount of dollars, but its the best indicator

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    most people lose their biggest bet of their life

    why is that?

    BECAUSE IF THEY HAD WON, THE AMOUNT RISKED ON THE NEXT BET WOULDVE INCREASED

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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    hey cuse, i am either all in or broke so i dont track

    but i am tired of these guys that want to act big time on threads

    and want to help people that are actually tracking


    it is very humbling to admit you only bet xxx amount of dollars, but its the best indicator
    Absolutely. Iím the same way. I donít track shit. Iím all in. But for people that do, this is the best way. Of course youíre right and people wanna hide how much money theyíre betting. The truth will set you free though.

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    if you arent losing the biggest bet you ever made, you are doing something wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    When using the sbrspreadsheet always keep your amount risked in terms of MONEY...not units.




    Why?

    Because you do not cash out units, you cash out cash. You might start with $10,000 and only bet between 1%-5% of your bankroll. $100-$500 the whole football season is not unrealistic, but life happens. Maybe you lose a job or a kid gets sick. Maybe you inherit money, get a pay raise, or hell even win at gambling.

    Let's say you go on a huge upswing, 50units up....now have $15,000 going to March Madness. Your 1% bet will now be $150 but you are tracking it with 1 unit, the same as your $10k bankroll in football.

    So in this scenario a win in football was worth around $100, while a basketball loss cost you around $165. Spreadsheet shows 1-1 and down the juice, but you are actually down $65. Same goes the opposite direction, your 1-1 might show down juice units, but you are actually up money

    If you have started with units, only way to do it is keep increasing units risked. So take the $10,000 roll that is now $20,000:

    your 1%-5% bets will now need to be tracked as 2%, 4%, 6%, 8%, and 10%, or 2,4,6,8, and 10 units on your spreadsheet.

    very hard to keep up with that over the long haul.

    Units do not matter, only cash

    GOD BLESS
    Amateur hour, Rudy.

    In reality, however, this is poor money management and you will find that betting like this will not only change your breakeven point, but you will incur extra vigorish charges along the way.

    Nearly every bettor at SBR should not even think about betting a percent of their current bankroll, it's tough to be that good and will most certainly ruin any tracking thread.

    I will say I did notice a difference between units and dollars when tracking here, but that difference is the result of rounding units to the nearest hundredths when actual dollar amounts will differ.

    Carry on.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    Amateur hour, Rudy.

    In reality, however, this is poor money management and you will find that betting like this will not only change your breakeven point, but you will incur extra vigorish charges along the way.

    Nearly every bettor at SBR should not even think about betting a percent of their current bankroll, it's tough to be that good and will most certainly ruin any tracking thread.

    I will say I did notice a difference between units and dollars when tracking here, but that difference is the result of rounding units to the nearest hundredths when actual dollar amounts will differ.

    Carry on.

    would love for you to explain instead of me disagreeing with you point by point

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    Explain what? Betting a percentage of your current bankroll will change your breakeven point, usually not for the better, no matter what order you put your wins or losses.

    It's elementary.

    I think you can figure it out from there. Just get out a pencil and paper and try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    Explain what? Betting a percentage of your current bankroll will change your breakeven point, usually not for the better, no matter what order you put your wins or losses.

    It's elementary.

    I think you can figure it out from there. Just get out a pencil and paper and try.
    which is exactly why i said you should track in money, not units

    did you read my post, or just want to argue about something> you are off topic here

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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    which is exactly why i said you should track in money, not units

    did you read my post, or just want to argue about something> you are off topic here
    And I'm saying it's bad tracking and money management advice.

    Here's why...

    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    ...if you bet 5.5% of your bankroll, and re-adjust to 5.5% after every bet is settled, you can reach your break even of 52.4% (winning 11 bets and losing 10).

    But no matter what order you put your wins and losses, after giving yourself 11 wins and 10 losses, the supposed break even, you will be down nearly 3% of your bankroll.

    Every time, no matter the order.

    After 110 wins and 100 losses betting the same way, you will be down nearly 25% of your bankroll, even though you hit your break even.

    The erosion is cause by the vig and a change in your break even percentage...
    Keep your risk flat people, it's your best chance at hanging on to profit, especially after a run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    And I'm saying it's bad tracking and money management advice.

    Here's why...



    Keep your risk flat people, it's your best chance at hanging on to profit, especially after a run.
    not true

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    Good for you Rudy.


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    so do you want to admit you are wrong or just pretend you are sharp and carryon with emoticons?

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    1% of bankroll per bet

    Best way to stay in the game

    NOBODY WINS

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    1% of bankroll per bet

    Best way to stay in the game

    NOBODY WINS
    but it comes down to how to track 1% of bankroll and its clear you have to track in terms of MONEY not units

    hopefully kvb is running some numbers and realizing that

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    this thread was actually meant to point out for posters to not keep a yearlong track here in terms of units and in spreadsheet an elementary point, but many skip it


    kvb actually opened up something else which goes much deeper but my point is still correct

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    units are for air betting fuks... Good stuff here Rudy

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    Quote Originally Posted by GT21Megatron View Post
    units are for air betting fuks... Good stuff here Rudy
    yes thanks bro



    why?



    because kvb is worried about breaking even

    im just talking about tracking purposes

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    ive said many times

    most of us need to rely on variance

    i have threads saying why i dont bet 100 games per day on the weekend while "sharps" do

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    The best part about all of this when someone wants to see a ticket from those posting on here for years and they act like they got some fuking local where they call there bets in but then they taking live lines and shit. This ain’t the fuking 80s anymore,,, All the bookies now are using some sort of platform so folks can place bets from anywhere at any time. Ton of broke fuks here air betting there diks off without a pot to piss in and they know who they are.
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