RUDYmentary: Pro tip on tracking plays via SBRSpreadsheet

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  • RudyRuetigger
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 08-24-10
    • 65086

    #1
    RUDYmentary: Pro tip on tracking plays via SBRSpreadsheet
    When using the sbrspreadsheet always keep your amount risked in terms of MONEY...not units.




    Why?

    Because you do not cash out units, you cash out cash. You might start with $10,000 and only bet between 1%-5% of your bankroll. $100-$500 the whole football season is not unrealistic, but life happens. Maybe you lose a job or a kid gets sick. Maybe you inherit money, get a pay raise, or hell even win at gambling.

    Let's say you go on a huge upswing, 50units up....now have $15,000 going to March Madness. Your 1% bet will now be $150 but you are tracking it with 1 unit, the same as your $10k bankroll in football.

    So in this scenario a win in football was worth around $100, while a basketball loss cost you around $165. Spreadsheet shows 1-1 and down the juice, but you are actually down $65. Same goes the opposite direction, your 1-1 might show down juice units, but you are actually up money

    If you have started with units, only way to do it is keep increasing units risked. So take the $10,000 roll that is now $20,000:

    your 1%-5% bets will now need to be tracked as 2%, 4%, 6%, 8%, and 10%, or 2,4,6,8, and 10 units on your spreadsheet.

    very hard to keep up with that over the long haul.

    Units do not matter, only cash

    GOD BLESS
  • firedawg
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 10-08-08
    • 39219

    #2
    Players advocate with tremendous advise
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    • RudyRuetigger
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 08-24-10
      • 65086

      #3
      i am just trying to keep posters away from headaches in July when a "unit" needs raised or lowered
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      • RudyRuetigger
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 08-24-10
        • 65086

        #4
        i guess noone tracks plays in terms of units on spreadsheet here or various other ways

        GOOD JOB
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        • jjgold
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 07-20-05
          • 388189

          #5
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          • RudyRuetigger
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 08-24-10
            • 65086

            #6
            SHARP

            always money bets

            though, they never changed in $973k risked

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            • RangeFinder
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 10-27-16
              • 8041

              #7
              Great job, Rudy!
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              • RudyRuetigger
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                • 08-24-10
                • 65086

                #8
                thanks bossman

                just trying to help those that do not know better
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                • kidcudi92
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 12-14-11
                  • 15434

                  #9
                  Will this be a weekly series?


                  Good shit
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                  • sweethook
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 11-21-07
                    • 12667

                    #10
                    how many sheets ? ...
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                    • RudyRuetigger
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 08-24-10
                      • 65086

                      #11
                      Originally posted by kidcudi92
                      Will this be a weekly series?


                      Good shit
                      no, i am just motivated for 2019

                      i hate reading much less writing then proofreading

                      used to have a monthly newsletter back in the day (not spam, just posted here)

                      Originally posted by sweethook
                      how many sheets ? ...
                      sheets????????/
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                      • trobin31
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 01-09-14
                        • 9853

                        #12
                        I’m no mathematician, but couldn’t u easily calculate dollar amount won based on units and starting bankroll?
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                        • RudyRuetigger
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 08-24-10
                          • 65086

                          #13



                          this thread is a PRIME example of why i am right
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                          • RudyRuetigger
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 08-24-10
                            • 65086

                            #14
                            Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                            https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...roll-bets.html


                            this thread is a PRIME example of why i am right
                            go review this thread and tell me what a 6.8 unit bet is

                            EXACTLY MY POINT

                            when his thread is updated with a win, itll be tracked as a huge win

                            but that unit is actually much less than the unit he started with

                            OK?

                            i win again
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                            • Cuse0323
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                              • 12-09-09
                              • 30169

                              #15
                              That’s good shit right there. Sharp advice. Definitely makes it easier to avoid discrepancies. So you won’t have to explain yourself when the numbers look off. Thanks Rudy.

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                              • RudyRuetigger
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 08-24-10
                                • 65086

                                #16
                                hey cuse, i am either all in or broke so i dont track

                                but i am tired of these guys that want to act big time on threads

                                and want to help people that are actually tracking


                                it is very humbling to admit you only bet xxx amount of dollars, but its the best indicator
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                                • RudyRuetigger
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 08-24-10
                                  • 65086

                                  #17
                                  most people lose their biggest bet of their life

                                  why is that?

                                  BECAUSE IF THEY HAD WON, THE AMOUNT RISKED ON THE NEXT BET WOULDVE INCREASED
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                                  • Cuse0323
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                                    • 12-09-09
                                    • 30169

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                    hey cuse, i am either all in or broke so i dont track

                                    but i am tired of these guys that want to act big time on threads

                                    and want to help people that are actually tracking


                                    it is very humbling to admit you only bet xxx amount of dollars, but its the best indicator
                                    Absolutely. I’m the same way. I don’t track shit. I’m all in. But for people that do, this is the best way. Of course you’re right and people wanna hide how much money they’re betting. The truth will set you free though.
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                                    • RudyRuetigger
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 08-24-10
                                      • 65086

                                      #19
                                      if you arent losing the biggest bet you ever made, you are doing something wrong
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                                      • jjgold
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 07-20-05
                                        • 388189

                                        #20
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                                        • KVB
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 05-29-14
                                          • 74817

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                          When using the sbrspreadsheet always keep your amount risked in terms of MONEY...not units.




                                          Why?

                                          Because you do not cash out units, you cash out cash. You might start with $10,000 and only bet between 1%-5% of your bankroll. $100-$500 the whole football season is not unrealistic, but life happens. Maybe you lose a job or a kid gets sick. Maybe you inherit money, get a pay raise, or hell even win at gambling.

                                          Let's say you go on a huge upswing, 50units up....now have $15,000 going to March Madness. Your 1% bet will now be $150 but you are tracking it with 1 unit, the same as your $10k bankroll in football.

                                          So in this scenario a win in football was worth around $100, while a basketball loss cost you around $165. Spreadsheet shows 1-1 and down the juice, but you are actually down $65. Same goes the opposite direction, your 1-1 might show down juice units, but you are actually up money

                                          If you have started with units, only way to do it is keep increasing units risked. So take the $10,000 roll that is now $20,000:

                                          your 1%-5% bets will now need to be tracked as 2%, 4%, 6%, 8%, and 10%, or 2,4,6,8, and 10 units on your spreadsheet.

                                          very hard to keep up with that over the long haul.

                                          Units do not matter, only cash

                                          GOD BLESS
                                          Amateur hour, Rudy.

                                          In reality, however, this is poor money management and you will find that betting like this will not only change your breakeven point, but you will incur extra vigorish charges along the way.

                                          Nearly every bettor at SBR should not even think about betting a percent of their current bankroll, it's tough to be that good and will most certainly ruin any tracking thread.

                                          I will say I did notice a difference between units and dollars when tracking here, but that difference is the result of rounding units to the nearest hundredths when actual dollar amounts will differ.

                                          Carry on.

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                                          • RudyRuetigger
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 08-24-10
                                            • 65086

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by KVB
                                            Amateur hour, Rudy.

                                            In reality, however, this is poor money management and you will find that betting like this will not only change your breakeven point, but you will incur extra vigorish charges along the way.

                                            Nearly every bettor at SBR should not even think about betting a percent of their current bankroll, it's tough to be that good and will most certainly ruin any tracking thread.

                                            I will say I did notice a difference between units and dollars when tracking here, but that difference is the result of rounding units to the nearest hundredths when actual dollar amounts will differ.

                                            Carry on.

                                            would love for you to explain instead of me disagreeing with you point by point
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                                            • KVB
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 05-29-14
                                              • 74817

                                              #23
                                              Explain what? Betting a percentage of your current bankroll will change your breakeven point, usually not for the better, no matter what order you put your wins or losses.

                                              It's elementary.

                                              I think you can figure it out from there. Just get out a pencil and paper and try.
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                                              • RudyRuetigger
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 08-24-10
                                                • 65086

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by KVB
                                                Explain what? Betting a percentage of your current bankroll will change your breakeven point, usually not for the better, no matter what order you put your wins or losses.

                                                It's elementary.

                                                I think you can figure it out from there. Just get out a pencil and paper and try.
                                                which is exactly why i said you should track in money, not units

                                                did you read my post, or just want to argue about something> you are off topic here
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                                                • KVB
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 05-29-14
                                                  • 74817

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                                  which is exactly why i said you should track in money, not units

                                                  did you read my post, or just want to argue about something> you are off topic here
                                                  And I'm saying it's bad tracking and money management advice.

                                                  Here's why...

                                                  Originally posted by KVB
                                                  ...if you bet 5.5% of your bankroll, and re-adjust to 5.5% after every bet is settled, you can reach your break even of 52.4% (winning 11 bets and losing 10).

                                                  But no matter what order you put your wins and losses, after giving yourself 11 wins and 10 losses, the supposed break even, you will be down nearly 3% of your bankroll.

                                                  Every time, no matter the order.

                                                  After 110 wins and 100 losses betting the same way, you will be down nearly 25% of your bankroll, even though you hit your break even.

                                                  The erosion is cause by the vig and a change in your break even percentage...
                                                  Keep your risk flat people, it's your best chance at hanging on to profit, especially after a run.
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                                                  • RudyRuetigger
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 08-24-10
                                                    • 65086

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by KVB
                                                    And I'm saying it's bad tracking and money management advice.

                                                    Here's why...



                                                    Keep your risk flat people, it's your best chance at hanging on to profit, especially after a run.
                                                    not true
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                                                    • KVB
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 05-29-14
                                                      • 74817

                                                      #27
                                                      Good for you Rudy.

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                                                      • RudyRuetigger
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                                                        • 08-24-10
                                                        • 65086

                                                        #28
                                                        so do you want to admit you are wrong or just pretend you are sharp and carryon with emoticons?
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                                                        • jjgold
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 07-20-05
                                                          • 388189

                                                          #29
                                                          1% of bankroll per bet

                                                          Best way to stay in the game

                                                          NOBODY WINS
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                                                          • RudyRuetigger
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 08-24-10
                                                            • 65086

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by jjgold
                                                            1% of bankroll per bet

                                                            Best way to stay in the game

                                                            NOBODY WINS
                                                            but it comes down to how to track 1% of bankroll and its clear you have to track in terms of MONEY not units

                                                            hopefully kvb is running some numbers and realizing that
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                                                            • RudyRuetigger
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 08-24-10
                                                              • 65086

                                                              #31
                                                              this thread was actually meant to point out for posters to not keep a yearlong track here in terms of units and in spreadsheet an elementary point, but many skip it


                                                              kvb actually opened up something else which goes much deeper but my point is still correct
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                                                              • GT21Megatron
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 12-20-13
                                                                • 10818

                                                                #32
                                                                units are for air betting fuks... Good stuff here Rudy
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                                                                • RudyRuetigger
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 08-24-10
                                                                  • 65086

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by GT21Megatron
                                                                  units are for air betting fuks... Good stuff here Rudy
                                                                  yes thanks bro



                                                                  why?



                                                                  because kvb is worried about breaking even

                                                                  im just talking about tracking purposes
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                                                                  • RudyRuetigger
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 08-24-10
                                                                    • 65086

                                                                    #34
                                                                    ive said many times

                                                                    most of us need to rely on variance

                                                                    i have threads saying why i dont bet 100 games per day on the weekend while "sharps" do
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                                                                    • GT21Megatron
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 12-20-13
                                                                      • 10818

                                                                      #35
                                                                      The best part about all of this when someone wants to see a ticket from those posting on here for years and they act like they got some fuking local where they call there bets in but then they taking live lines and shit. This ain’t the fuking 80s anymore,,, All the bookies now are using some sort of platform so folks can place bets from anywhere at any time. Ton of broke fuks here air betting there diks off without a pot to piss in and they know who they are.
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