1. 11-01-18 09:54 PM #1
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    Raiders have to be tanking.

    No way they are this bad. Worse tank job since the 2002 cavaliers
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  2. 11-01-18 09:58 PM #2
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    Tanking for what??
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  3. 11-01-18 10:06 PM #3
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    will books start taking raiders games off the board, how do u set lines for a team that clearly isn't trying
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  4. 11-01-18 10:09 PM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post

    Tanking for what??
    R U watching
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  5. 11-01-18 10:10 PM #5
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    Just Tank Baby!
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  6. 11-01-18 10:13 PM #6
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    Of course they are tanking.
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  7. 11-01-18 10:15 PM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Tanking for what??
    You can't be this slow?
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  8. 11-01-18 10:15 PM #8
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    They aren't trying at all!
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  9. 11-01-18 10:25 PM #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    You can't be this slow?
    He's asking what are they tanking for.

    As in, what player?
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  10. 11-01-18 10:26 PM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by cincinnatikid513 View Post
    will books start taking raiders games off the board, how do u set lines for a team that clearly isn't trying
    Wtf the line gonna be in the 2 games vs kc?? 17-20? Is that even close to enough? I could easily see kc waxing them by 30-40 points.
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  11. 11-01-18 10:29 PM #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    Wtf the line gonna be in the 2 games vs kc?? 17-20? Is that even close to enough? I could easily see kc waxing them by 30-40 points.
    KC could legit put up 70+ points against the Raiders.
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  12. 11-01-18 10:31 PM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    He's asking what are they tanking for.

    As in, what player?
    Probably Murray from Oklahoma, Carr is too expensive and not productive enough, he gone.

    Why would they win at this point? The season is 100% over for them
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  13. 11-01-18 10:34 PM #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Kraken View Post
    Probably Murray from Oklahoma, Carr is too expensive and not productive enough, he gone.

    Why would they win at this point? The season is 100% over for them
    Pride, self respect.
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  14. 11-01-18 10:38 PM #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Kraken View Post
    Probably Murray from Oklahoma, Carr is too expensive and not productive enough, he gone.

    Why would they win at this point? The season is 100% over for them
    Murray is set to play baseball, isn't he?
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  15. 11-01-18 10:38 PM #15
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    The fans should be boycotting the Raiders and the Oakland execs should be thinking hard about buying out Gruden. No way this situation gets better in year 2 or 3. Gruden set this team back 5 years.
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  16. 11-01-18 10:39 PM #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    Pride, self respect.
    Gotta disagree. Maybe 30 years ago when there seemed to be a code of ethics but those days are gone.

    Pride and self respect come next year and the year after. All that matters is having good players to win, not constantly being 4-12 or 5-11

    Unfortunately gotta tank to get young, cheap players. Then put the peices around them because the $$$ is there

    hicago and Dallas wont do much with the players they acquired from the Raiders
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  17. 11-01-18 10:40 PM #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    Murray is set to play baseball, isn't he?
    Hadn’t heard that but just googled it and you’re right, he’s coming to Oakland next year

    Wow, would be something to win the heisman and not play in the nfl
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  18. 11-01-18 10:43 PM #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by NardVa View Post
    The fans should be boycotting the Raiders and the Oakland execs should be thinking hard about buying out Gruden. No way this situation gets better in year 2 or 3. Gruden set this team back 5 years.
    You know nothing about sports
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  19. 11-01-18 10:44 PM #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Kraken View Post
    Hadn’t heard that but just googled it and you’re right, he’s coming to Oakland next year

    Wow, would be something to win the heisman and not play in the nfl
    He decided to keep his brain
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  20. 11-01-18 10:48 PM #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roadtrip635 View Post
    KC could legit put up 70+ points against the Raiders.
    and about 10 other teams
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  21. 11-01-18 10:54 PM #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by NardVa View Post
    The fans should be boycotting the Raiders and the Oakland execs should be thinking hard about buying out Gruden. No way this situation gets better in year 2 or 3. Gruden set this team back 5 years.
    Agreed, product on the field is pathetic. Perfect time for the Raiders to set sail to Vegas.
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  22. 11-01-18 11:02 PM #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Kraken View Post
    Hadn’t heard that but just googled it and you’re right, he’s coming to Oakland next year

    Wow, would be something to win the heisman and not play in the nfl
    Charlie Ward (Noles) did it.
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  23. 11-01-18 11:50 PM #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckyTheGoat View Post
    Charlie Ward (Noles) did it.
    Johnny Manziel did it
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  24. 11-01-18 11:55 PM #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    He's asking what are they tanking for.

    As in, what player?
    in the nfl the whole draft is a lottery. you can find great players in any round. and if you tank you get your choice in each round. having the 1st and 33rd and 65th pick plus all their extras is pretty good. raiders are gonna pick up lots of talent in the next few years. hard to trade carr cause who the fukk wants him? he was owned by a guy none of us heard of until today.
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  25. 11-02-18 12:57 AM #25
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    Coming in 2020: New city. New stadium. Sold out games. Second full year of Gruden shopping for the groceries. They'll be fine.
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  26. 11-02-18 01:07 AM #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by VeggieDog View Post
    Coming in 2020: New city. New stadium. Sold out games. Second full year of Gruden shopping for the groceries. They'll be fine.
    ~~~~

    You trust Gruden with the shopping list?

    2019
    Team Transactions
    Round 1
    Bears
    Raiders


    Traded • Khalil Mack • 2020 second round pick (?-?) • 2020 conditional fifth round pick (?-?) to Bears for • 2019 first round pick (?-?) • 2019 sixth round pick (?-?) • 2020 first round pick (?-?) • 2020 third round pick (?-?) on 2018-09-01
    Cowboys
    Raiders


    Traded • Amari Cooper to Cowboys for • 2019 first round pick (?-?) on 2018-10-22
    Raiders
    Round 2
    Raiders
    Round 3
    Raiders
    Round 4
    Raiders
    Round 5
    Raiders
    Steelers
    Raiders


    Traded • Ryan Switzer • 2019 sixth round pick (?-?) to Steelers for • 2019 fifth round pick (?-?) on 2018-08-27
    Bills

    Traded • A.J. McCarron to Raiders for • 2019 fifth round pick (?-?) on 2018-09-01
    Round 6
    Bears
    Raiders


    Traded • Khalil Mack • 2020 second round pick (?-?) • 2020 conditional fifth round pick (?-?) to Bears for • 2019 first round pick (?-?) • 2019 sixth round pick (?-?) • 2020 first round pick (?-?) • 2020 third round pick (?-?) on 2018-09-01
    Raiders
    Steelers


    Traded • 2019 fifth round pick (?-?) to Raiders for • Ryan Switzer • 2019 sixth round pick (?-?) on 2018-08-27
    Round 7
    Raiders
    Seahawks
    Raiders


    Traded • Shalom Luani to Seahawks for • 2019 seventh round pick (?-?) on 2018-09-01

    2020
    Team Transactions
    Round 1
    Bears
    Raiders


    Traded • Khalil Mack • 2020 second round pick (?-?) • 2020 conditional fifth round pick (?-?) to Bears for • 2019 first round pick (?-?) • 2019 sixth round pick (?-?) • 2020 first round pick (?-?) • 2020 third round pick (?-?) on 2018-09-01
    Raiders
    Round 2
    Raiders
    Bears


    Traded • 2019 first round pick (?-?) • 2019 sixth round pick (?-?) • 2020 first round pick (?-?) • 2020 third round pick (?-?) to Raiders for • Khalil Mack • 2020 second round pick (?-?) • 2020 conditional fifth round pick (?-?) on 2018-09-01
    Round 3
    Bears
    Raiders


    Traded • Khalil Mack • 2020 second round pick (?-?) • 2020 conditional fifth round pick (?-?) to Bears for • 2019 first round pick (?-?) • 2019 sixth round pick (?-?) • 2020 first round pick (?-?) • 2020 third round pick (?-?) on 2018-09-01
    Raiders
    Round 4
    Raiders
    Round 5
    Raiders
    Bears (conditional)

    PICK MAY OR MAY NOT TRANSFER DEPENDING ON UNCONFIRMED CONDITIONS


    Traded • 2019 first round pick (?-?) • 2019 sixth round pick (?-?) • 2020 first round pick (?-?) • 2020 third round pick (?-?) to Raiders for • Khalil Mack • 2020 second round pick (?-?) • 2020 conditional fifth round pick (?-?) on 2018-09-01
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  27. 11-02-18 01:19 AM #27
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    "You trust Gruden with the shopping list?"

    He's playing rope-a-dope. Crazy like a fox. This is gonna work.
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  28. 11-02-18 01:26 AM #28
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    I mean....its crazy enough to work.

    Mike Ditka Ricky William's...but in reverse....
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  29. 11-02-18 10:38 AM #29
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    Just an awful showing last night. Looks like a Hue Jackson rebuild that will never gain traction
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  30. 11-02-18 10:40 AM #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by seaborneq View Post

    Just an awful showing last night.
    Many players just quit

    Was not a designed thing
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  31. 11-02-18 10:59 AM #31
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    The players are not quitting, they are playing hard for jobs and millions of dollars. Example if they are not playing hard and get cut by Raiders they have nowhere to go because look worthless to anyone else. There is major discourse with Gruden, Carr and the players. As a whole they may not care or plan very well, but individually not quitting. The problem people don't see and Gruden does is that his players overall suck so it looks like they aren't trying. Many will be gone next year in the blowup but nobody isn't trying on the field. The Raiders are not a good team and Carr is now in the Jay Cutler stage of life.
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  32. 11-02-18 11:11 AM #32
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    Wonder how much the K Mack trade

    impacted that locker room
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  33. 11-02-18 11:17 AM #33
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    Jimmy Johnson 1-15 his first year in Dallas - keep yapping morons - And gruden got a 10 year contract - Stop saying he’s going get fired idiots lol -
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  34. 11-02-18 11:21 AM #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    He decided to keep his brain
    NFL is flag football. Not allowed to hit QB.
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  35. 11-02-18 11:23 AM #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by ikid2groove415 View Post

    Jimmy Johnson 1-15 his first year in Dallas
    you were listening to Troy Aikman too much last night
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