Stock Market Discussion -- started 03/06/2018 -- updated daily !!!

[trobin31]

Many many small to mid caps looking primed as laggards.

ABNB SENS RBLX RUN just to name a few across broad sectors

[d2bets]

Market keeps chugging along, melting up.

[trobin31]

Adding Unity and Kopn

[Madison]

i agree.
but i have also picked up that you and Slurry both of right leans politically.

you want to be careful about that also.

you might dislike the guy in the WH right right or the "woke lefties" but you have to be careful about letting it color your world.

nearly everyone i read online and in my circle of friends, thought the market was going to tank this year "Winter is Coming" etc etc etc.

i held my nose and ignored the noise and last year i bought the big drops in march, june, sept, and december. every quarter.

it is documented right in this thread.

this market, barring some major cataclysmic event, is going north the remainder of the year.

Congrats my friend, just be cautious heading forward and take a little off the top. Always remember "You'll never go broke taking a profit"!!!

[d2bets]

Anyone else have Upstart? Thing has gone parabolic, and other than the fact that it involves AI, I have no idea why (not complaining). It's up like 500% in the last 3 months.

[Madison]

Anyone else have Upstart? Thing has gone parabolic, and other than the fact that it involves AI, I have no idea why (not complaining). It's up like 500% in the last 3 months.

Me ... I like it as a long term hold. Gaining a good foothold in the mortgage world. But, always worry about parabolic moves.

Also, PLUG. Wish I better understood their capex vs income.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

Not bad.

MSTR and GBTC ripping.

Think I was on to something, boys. Right now, MSTR and GBTC are going up more than Bitcoin.

Maybe it's easier for people to on-board into these two stocks (instead of BTC). Anyway, these two are ripping right now.

[guitarjosh]

This is getting nuts, the Buffett Indicator is higher now than it was in 1999-2000. The only time it was higher was from November 2020 - April 2022.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

This is getting nuts, the Buffett Indicator is higher now than it was in 1999-2000. The only time it was higher was from November 2020 - April 2022.

Tell me more. What does that measure?

Does that imply that the current Stock Mkt prices are stretching the rubber-band on the top-end? I'm of the opinion that a correction is coming. I could easily see -20% from now to the end of the year.

What the hell does the USA produce anymore? And what labor do Americans perform?

[guitarjosh]

Tell me more. What does that measure?

Does that imply that the current Stock Mkt prices are stretching the rubber-band on the top-end? I'm of the opinion that a correction is coming. I could easily see -20% from now to the end of the year.

What the hell does the USA produce anymore? And what labor do Americans perform?

It's basically measured by dividing the market capitalization of the market, in this case the Wilshire 5000 by the GDP of the country. The larger the stock market gets relative to GDP, the higher the number goes.

It implies that the market is more overbought than at any period outside of November 2020 - April 2022, when we had trillions of stimulus payments and moratoriums putting money into the hands of average people, who were then dumping the money into stock markets.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

It's basically measured by dividing the market capitalization of the market, in this case the Wilshire 5000 by the GDP of the country. The larger the stock market gets relative to GDP, the higher the number goes.

It implies that the market is more overbought than at any period outside of November 2020 - April 2022, when we had trillions of stimulus payments and moratoriums putting money into the hands of average people, who were then dumping the money into stock markets.

Thank you, Josh. Yes, that makes perfect sense.

The stock indices have been pumped to the moon. It's a function of dollar-printing. Keep an eye on earning reports, if those are down, it will be very telling.

[Slurry Pumper]

I think we got a topping tail or a topping doji candle today. I've been sitting here just waiting for a sign or signal or something to give me a chance to start dipping my toes in the water for some PUTS in all my favorite index funds. Today we got that, I bought small amounts of PUTS that retire on 01-19-24 for SPY, XLF, IWM, QQQ, and SMH. I still have CALLS for all of these that expire at the end of the week, but if we did see a reversal this afternoon, I'll be jumping out of those tomorrow sometime if it looks bad at around 10:30. We have a chance the market is starting to get pretty far from the 20 DMA which is what I would call magnetic or my view of the market tending to not get too far away from that moving average. This means the market can stop going up and wait for the moving average to get there, or we can see it fall out of bed and crash back down to the 20 DMA. Either way, its all worth a look to be aware.

[astrobloke]

This is getting nuts, the Buffett Indicator is higher now than it was in 1999-2000. The only time it was higher was from November 2020 - April 2022.

keep pushing it higher,

have a look.

95% of people are making a big mistake.

He will huff and he will puff and blow the house down!

Correct, this is not going to end well.

I can see so many people GETTING excited about " Oh im back in the stockmarket, " and laughing and smiling thinking that they are about to make some serious cash.

FOOLS and their MONEY are about to part.

This charts is more proof of what guitarJosh is staying.

Uh OH......

When the sheep are GREEDY, be fearful, its only a matter of time, until the market is going to shit the bedpan, not today or tomorrow, but the charts DONT LIE, as GuitarJosh told you.

[astrobloke]

sure we can go up higher again, and the house is rigged to make it happen.

But they are doing this big RAMP up on purpose.

WONT END WELL.....

[ChuckyTheGoat]

sure we can go up higher again, and the house is rigged to make it happen.

But they are doing this big RAMP up on purpose.

WONT END WELL.....

astro:

*Some of us agree with you.

The big question: *What is the optimal alternative? Hard assets would seem to be the answer. Most think of Au/Ag, as they're unlikely to plummet. Of course, opinion is divided on Bitcoin.

Are there any investments you recommend? If so, can a guy on-board to said investment on their trading account?

[astrobloke]

astro:

*Some of us agree with you.

The big question: *What is the optimal alternative? Hard assets would seem to be the answer. Most think of Au/Ag, as they're unlikely to plummet. Of course, opinion is divided on Bitcoin.

Are there any investments you recommend? If so, can a guy on-board to said investment on their trading account?

Not everyone will agree, and that is ok. I just play with charts, and do well.

The news coming out in the charts first.

I would get ready for WW3 nuke scare, down the track, because this is all the same as months before the WW2, but now there is talks about weapons and N word. ;-)

Of course the coming crash in the stockmarket is going to affect BTC and all currencies, so dont do anything there until near the halving events.

Trump is not president, but he is Commander IN chief via laws of war. so It pretty much makes him president, and those around him call him PRESIDENT Trump. So that is good enough for me. Many will laugh at me, but I have a military background, and so you have to know maritime laws, and military laws, and people will not be laughing when the WW3 nuke scares comes, and trump is " Psychic" NOT psychic and already

Trump says world is on the “brink of WWIII” with Russia



But it will be a nuclear Scare, to wake up the idiots sheep. He knows what is coming, which is what I am hinting at, but also giving you more and more proof.

in the future things will be backed by gold or metal backed currency. many countries already moving away from the US dollar, but things and many financial changes coming. If we dont get back to the gold standard we are screwed, as in me, you and all your family.

all this takes time!

So If you think you are wrong on your SILVER and GOLD. You are not. But they will plummet these commodities first because they have gone too high. Especially silver. But you might have to be patient, if you like them. I love silver longer term....

im playing this with BBUS Equity bear large late positions .....and also PUTS, on the SP {OTM}

People are NOT ready for what is coming, and look at the price of pfizer and modern, I have been shorting and playing those.

They will continue to get decimated. For the evil and corruption they bought on people. " safe and effective "

they are not SAFE at all. A healthy patient is a customer lost!!! They dont want you to bed healed and healthy, that means they get no business and no money. People got tricked into getting the " VACCINE " .... so watch what happens. ;-)

Wall Street is finding out just how bad those companies are, as young " Fully vaxxed " NOT fully vaxxed kids around the world are going to drop like flies. Of course people are going to laugh at me, and call me a conspiracy theory nut, but look at the numbers of disabilities and deaths of people, and sick people after they got the booster. I never will get any " Vaccination " because in the future people are going to RIOT in the street when they work out they have a ticking time bomb inside them. But again, that is just my thoughts, as I follow the data.


It's a sad world in which we live, but when life gives you lemons, you and profit and make lemonade.

we have all these things grouping up together in the clouds, and the charts is more proof that the there is BAD news coming out soon.

So soon there is going to be some HORRIFIC and HISTORICAL news coming ....that will shake the souls of men,....
and the charts are confirming this. We are very overbought.

Again, just because I say these things, doesn't mean they happen! Just my thoughts..... and my 0.02 cents.

best of luck.

[astrobloke]

its not time to buy crypto, as stockmarket down, crypto down.

and I will not play crypto, for now. Because in BTC and ETH, people who are in those and making a little bit of profit in the future are going to see they made a mistake as crypto millionaires are being created all around them by people buying up smaller spec " shit coins " that rocket up in higher percentage .... . So BTC and ETH are dinosaurs to me. But they are safer and will make you money I am guessing. The best time to buy ALT coins are when they are unloved and people tell you they are going to zero...... But it's all about timing, right now is not the time to be buying those high risk assets, because they are going to get punched in the gut when the market comes tumbling down in the future due to the puppet biden bad choices.

Im looking for a sort of ww3 Nuke scare sort of event that will light up twitter in the future. Call me crazy? eY? sure but what if really did happen?

Hope this helps.

Again, I cannot tell you what to do with your hard earned money. That would not be fair. That is up to you.

Never invest money you cannot afford to lose, and good Luck.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

OK, astro, thx. I watch a guy named Road to Roota.

His basic premise is that Silver is the fuse. It's been price-supressed for so long. Silver is the metal with the best conductivity.

There's a small amount of silver in most electronic items. If price-discovery allowed Silver to hit its natural price point, the impact on product price would be significant. Impact would be enough that producers would be passing on a price that was no longer affordable to most.

[homie1975]

Anyone else have Upstart? Thing has gone parabolic, and other than the fact that it involves AI, I have no idea why (not complaining). It's up like 500% in the last 3 months.

i own it.

took a bath (on paper) watching it drop like a rock since i first bought in at ~$100 in early 2022.

i held my nose and kept buying it on the way down.

i am only up ~35% because i took such a drubbing from my entry at ~$100

one of the main reasons it is going up is because of stabilizing rates as they are a lending platform and yet they utilize data and nontraditional data to determine they will lend to.

[homie1975]

sure we can go up higher again, and the house is rigged to make it happen.

But they are doing this big RAMP up on purpose.

WONT END WELL.....

are you trying to time it?

if so, what are your windows of opp ?

[kyhawk]

I will post this link as a favor. Follow this guy or GTFO. https://tradethecurve.com/

Yes, I am a member. No, I don't give a fuk if you sign up

[astrobloke]

OK, astro, thx. I watch a guy named Road to Roota.

His basic premise is that Silver is the fuse. It's been price-supressed for so long. Silver is the metal with the best conductivity.

There's a small amount of silver in most electronic items. If price-discovery allowed Silver to hit its natural price point, the impact on product price would be significant. Impact would be enough that producers would be passing on a price that was no longer affordable to most.

silver is used in factories and mass production.

dont forget COPPER too with the coming renewables scam.

petrol use to be free, look it up, then they faked worker strikes made you pay. I dont own a car, EV and TESLA are a scam.
inflation coming so gas prices in USA go up. Simple.

fed lose control of inflation.


These two. Silver, Copper.

[astrobloke]

I will post this link as a favor. Follow this guy or GTFO. https://tradethecurve.com/

Yes, I am a member. No, I don't give a fuk if you sign up

time to save you some coin.

BUY THE DIPS, and SELL THE RALLIES.

dont reinvent the wheel. .

98% of people, even investors with large money do not do this.

This is why people always lose out. Like with CRYPTO, people that buy a coins after it goes up 1000% .... ummmmm good luck with that. LOL

Like I said study the sheep..... do the opposite to how they invest. Make it easier. You dont have to pay a guy to help you.

Just be a contrarian.

[astrobloke]

after I post, this.

LOL

FUN TO WATCH!

https://news.bitcoin.com/texas-house-advances-gold-backed-digital-currency-bill/

what a coincidence ;-)

[ChuckyTheGoat]

after I post, this.

LOL

FUN TO WATCH!

https://news.bitcoin.com/texas-house-advances-gold-backed-digital-currency-bill/

what a coincidence ;-)

Astro, a lot of what you reference = things discussed on this site. In no particular order:

1) Bitcoin price shows a periodicity around the halving. If you believe in fractals, there's some evidence that history is repeating itself.

2) State rights = the possible salvation of the USA. The Federal Govt has become laughable. I'd love to see the States take over the currency.

3) Your point on Sell the Rallies is a good one. Feel like the US stocks have been pumped up for a long time.

4) Producing the penny/nickel costs more than the face value. When does the USA eradicate the penny/nickel? It's hilarious the US wants to strip the metal out of the CURRENT coins. As if copper/nickel are too generous, could be aluminum soon.

Lastly, I could be full of it. I just don't like the USA charade.

[d2bets]

i own it.

took a bath (on paper) watching it drop like a rock since i first bought in at ~$100 in early 2022.

i held my nose and kept buying it on the way down.

i am only up ~35% because i took such a drubbing from my entry at ~$100

one of the main reasons it is going up is because of stabilizing rates as they are a lending platform and yet they utilize data and nontraditional data to determine they will lend to.

Yeah, actually I think I found it from you scrolling this thread. Got lucky bought it this year at $18. Half in Roth and half in brokerage. Contemplating banking the Roth gain at some point.

[Slurry Pumper]

OK we had a little pullback yesterday as predicted by the doji candle stick from Wednesday. How about today? We have levels of support at the $450 on the SPY, but I like a day trade at $448. What about if the tape runs back up where is the resistance? That's the high from Wednesday's candle at $456.43. So will we get the usual Friday creep up the charts, or could it all go to shyt and a collapse? Who knows, I got out of my weekly long calls yesterday at 10:30 as touted on this very site. My weekly goals have been met. I made money on the long side in all the index options, while dipping my toes in the short side with longer term options that are also so far in the money. I think I'll take today off as I don't want to F things up for the week.

[Slurry Pumper]

More of the same this week. I will continue to toss in a couple bucks for my longer term PUTS in all the index funds while looking for a spot to go in the short term calls that expire this Friday. The short play can come in at any time this week but $456ish is a good spot for that, as it is just an accumulation that will probably take a good month or more to properly fund. If the markets break out from there, Its call city for the short term, but I would rather stick with the same spots as I had on Friday for a day trade / Swing trade chance at $448 on the SPY with other levels for the other indexes that correlate. The $451 (SPY) is another spot that is moving up a little bit from Fridays target but it is still a spot.

I almost forgot to say I actually sold my short term position in GLD last week as it crossed above the $183 spot. The headline is Mr. Pumper actually sold gold here. I think it pulls back before taking off again, but if it runs up that isn't such a bad thing as I'm pretty packed full of Gold and Silver chunks at this point waiting for a bust out now since 2021.

[homie1975]

slow melt up and rotation into cyclicals continues.

huge huge earnings on deck this week and next.

[bhoor]

Market is a scam

[d2bets]

Market is a scam

It's a scam that's built wealth and help people enjoy retirement for generations. Nobody who invested from ages 20-40 has ever woke up at 60-65 upset that they invested as opposed to stashing under the mattress. Not how I'd define a scam.

[d2bets]

i own it.

took a bath (on paper) watching it drop like a rock since i first bought in at ~$100 in early 2022.

i held my nose and kept buying it on the way down.

i am only up ~35% because i took such a drubbing from my entry at ~$100

one of the main reasons it is going up is because of stabilizing rates as they are a lending platform and yet they utilize data and nontraditional data to determine they will lend to.

$62+. Parabolic uptrend remains in place. Up like 800% in the past 5 months.

[homie1975]

Market is a scam

That's usually what people say when they've lost money and/or missed a big move up.

[bhoor]

That's usually what people say when they've lost money and/or missed a big move up.

I lost it all after Trump.

[homie1975]

I lost it all after Trump.

All Time Highs in all 3 indexes occurred in late Nov 2021 over 12 mos after the 2020 election was decided and ~10 mos after the current POTUS took the oath on 1/20/2021.

did you sell everything when the new guy took the oath?