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  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388189

    #1
    Technology Ruined Professional Sports Bettor


    Cannot beat them anymore
    mother fukker

    LINE SERVICES
  • RangeFinder
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 10-27-16
    • 8041

    #2
    Originally posted by jjgold


    Cannot beat them anymore
    mother fukker

    LINE SERVICES
    Line services have been obsolete for years now, JJ

    Pro's have made adjustments which has been going back to old school for some and creating more saber numbers for others

    Both methods have done okay but it takes a lot of work

    I think the guys that got rid of the computer programs have done a little
    better
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    • A4K
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 10-08-12
      • 5243

      #3
      Fading the public needs to be your starting point.
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      • Snowball
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 11-15-09
        • 30042

        #4
        Ignore any technical stuff.
        It's only going to get worse because DraftKings/FanDuel
        are getting in the sportsbook business - they are forming
        their models and naming their books right now. I know this.
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        • RangeFinder
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 10-27-16
          • 8041

          #5
          The bottom line is the books still have to make a number and they do this by making adjustments themselves

          A player can never use the same method of selection for any long period, you have to make adjustments to their adjustments
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          • Bluehorseshoe
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 07-13-06
            • 14985

            #6
            Originally posted by RangeFinder
            Line services have been obsolete for years now, JJ

            better
            No way. They're your only chance.
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            • RangeFinder
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 10-27-16
              • 8041

              #7
              Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe
              No way. They're your only chance.
              Not saying it's bad, you can't just sit back and watch line movements and pick up smart money like in years past and grab the same number

              Numbers move across the markets too quick for line serves to be effective anymore, all you get are fried numbers by the time you react which is not profitable over the long term
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              • jjgold
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 07-20-05
                • 388189

                #8
                Line services are what killed the value men

                Everyone just moves off pinnacle under 1 minute even books in Australia
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                • BuckyOne
                  SBR MVP
                  • 01-02-15
                  • 2728

                  #9
                  Technology ruined professional sports bettor? As in increased technology and better science has passed up the screen watchers? I would say not knowing the difference between real moves and false moves ruined the screen follower might be a better interpretation?

                  I wonder how many sports books got burned on false moves? Where they moved on air and still do.

                  I will agree that technology ruined the professional scalper and ho. Bang Bangs are pretty hard to come by.
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                  • ikid2groove415
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 01-08-18
                    • 11981

                    #10
                    I thought everyone move off Bookmaker !! Even Vegas
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                    • SBR Tony
                      Moderator
                      • 01-31-18
                      • 3934

                      #11
                      Originally posted by jjgold


                      Cannot beat them anymore
                      mother fukker

                      LINE SERVICES
                      I'll agree somewhat with this because more and more information is out there, even for the Shops themselves
                      But I still believe they can be beat. You just have to look where they aren't looking.

                      Books will pay more attention to the
                      Villanova games, and not as much to the Coastal Carolina games
                      you need to find value in these lower profile games

                      my 2 cents
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                      • jjgold
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 07-20-05
                        • 388189

                        #12
                        I’ve lived in Vegas and very small schools the lines would change within one minute of pinnacle change at every Vegas book
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                        • Sam Odom
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 10-30-05
                          • 58063

                          #13
                          have to wager on a 'feel' like the old days
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                          • CappinTerp
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 11-26-09
                            • 9650

                            #14
                            JJ..the way I see it,I agree with you!!.....this is like politics , two diff. sides with arguments,and never a conclusion!!

                            Back in the old days,most books would loose $ during baseball season, year in and year out.
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                            • unde0087
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 03-27-08
                              • 28877

                              #15
                              Originally posted by SBR Tony
                              I'll agree somewhat with this because more and more information is out there, even for the Shops themselves
                              But I still believe they can be beat. You just have to look where they aren't looking.

                              Books will pay more attention to the
                              Villanova games, and not as much to the Coastal Carolina games
                              you need to find value in these lower profile games

                              my 2 cents
                              This is why I love the Big Sky conference in cbb. Lines are not that sharp on many nights.
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                              • ikid2groove415
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 01-08-18
                                • 11981

                                #16
                                Back in the old days!! If you’re betting on small college schools !! It would be hard to find any information !! Now with the internet/Twitter - everything is instant news
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                                • firedawg
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 10-08-08
                                  • 39219

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by ikid2groove415
                                  Back in the old days!! If you’re betting on small college schools !! It would be hard to find any information !! Now with the internet/Twitter - everything is instant news
                                  To an extent
                                  True
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                                  • BuckyOne
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 01-02-15
                                    • 2728

                                    #18
                                    You know there is always the "become a better handicapper" yourself. Make your own lines - your own models - your own research of variables - factors. Just following something/somebody and being a winner - pretty hard to do - but, if one is in a nitch - keeps records of results - who knows - short cuts to doing the work yourself - not many exist!
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                                    • jjgold
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 07-20-05
                                      • 388189

                                      #19
                                      Models don’t work anymore, Don’t forget way more parity in sports now than ever before.

                                      All your old school so called syndicates got buried
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