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    Lucky she had money, Krak, or she didn't want to retire early. Could have ended up like these two. Instead, you get a good story and move on to the Mrs. Krak. These two double stuffed themselves. They get laid, but she gets paid. Look at the girl. She took the easy way out in life, and took it a step further now. Daddy wasn't home enough for her...or was home too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kermit View Post
    No one is denying that sex happened. What is questionable is this woman's claim of rape. Here we have what looks like a total whore who does nothing but flaunt herself online getting arrested for drugs and then fukking a couple cops to get out of it. Was she really handcuffed and raped? Possibly. But her portfolio kind of speaks for itself when determining character.
    That's really all you needed to say, the rest didn't need to be said especially in the way you said. Imagine that girl was your daughter and a couple cops handcuffed her and actually raped her, you would want them held accountable I hope. The reality is it doesn't matter if she is a whore, that would not preclude her from being raped and I could theorize why that would actually entice cops to rape her.

    It seems most guys, yourself included in this instance, start at the premise there is a good chance the female is lying and that she is presumed a whore as opposed to supporting the female and starting with the premise that she's telling the truth.

    You're certainly not alone, the thought train is prevalent and men tend to assume women that claim rape are whores and are lying. And as the father of a daughter, that is a sad reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuse0323 View Post
    Lucky she had money, Krak, or she didn't want to retire early. Could have ended up like these two. Instead, you get a good story and move on to the Mrs. Krak. These two double stuffed themselves. They get laid, but she gets paid. Look at the girl. She took the easy way out in life, and took it a step further now. Daddy wasn't home enough for her...or was home too much.
    See my post to Kermit for how I feel about this in general but I gotta give it to you, the bolded portion made me

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    If your a detective and would put yourself in this situation..however that is..you deserve the worst. They will be terminated and this will go on for over a year. Fight for your life...over a rape or having the hits for her..if the rape kit shows it's intercourse with abrasions etc..they r done

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    As for the pictures and the promiscuity of them, I have had similar, if not sluttier, pics of pretty much all my gf's over the years and plenty of plutonic friends as well.

    These pics to me don't mean much but for some people, they're all that is needed to form an opinion that she is clearly lying and that there is no way she was raped but because she's such a slut it had to be consensual.

    I see these pics and think she's got a killer body and a face to guard it

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    Quote Originally Posted by nyplayer33 View Post
    If your a detective and would put yourself in this situation..however that is..you deserve the worst. They will be terminated and this will go on for over a year. Fight for your life...over a rape or having the hits for her..if the rape kit shows it's intercourse with abrasions etc..they r done
    What if it was a sensual rape, with no abrasions? They good to go?

    I don't know what happened, but the rape kit is meh. We'd all be in jail if abrasions after sex meant rape. Well, not all of us.

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    Where's Dlowilly when you need him

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    Quote Originally Posted by nyplayer33 View Post
    NYPD detectives charged with raping handcuffed woman in police van

    By*Eric Levenson*and*Ellie Kaufman, CNN

    Updated 2:10 PM ET, Tue October 31, 2017

    Police detectives Eddie Martins, left, and Richard Hall have pleaded not guilty to the charges.

    Story highlightsProsecutors say attacks occurred after officers stopped a car driven by an 18-year-old womanThe two officers were arraigned Monday on a total of 50 charges

    (CNN)Two New York Police Department detectives took turns raping a handcuffed 18-year-old woman in the back seat of their police van in Coney Island last month, according to the Kings County District Attorney's office.

    Eddie Martins, 37, and Richard Hall, 33, of the Brooklyn South Narcotics unit, were arraigned Monday on a total of 50 charges, including first-degree rape, first-degree criminal sexual act and second-degree kidnapping, the district attorney's office said.
    Allegedly, there were other Guys with her that tried to say it was their drugs but the cops were insisting on charging the girl. Bizarre story when reading into the details. Sad to see people who should be trying to help the heroin crisis doing stuff like this

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Kraken View Post
    As for the pictures and the promiscuity of them, I have had similar, if not sluttier, pics of pretty much all my gf's over the years and plenty of plutonic friends as well.

    These pics to me don't mean much but for some people, they're all that is needed to form an opinion that she is clearly lying and that there is no way she was raped but because she's such a slut it had to be consensual.

    I see these pics and think she's got a killer body and a face to guard it
    The problem is that those are the only kind pics that she has. There are none with her and her family, or her out shopping, or even her cuddling up with her dog. Every one of them is a pose saying "you wish you could fukk me"

    Then a story about her getting busted and getting fukked which leads to her getting out of it. I doubt either one of these cops followed her twitter page and busted her just so they could get down and dirty.

    Like I said before, the cops are wrong for what they did and should be fired, but there is no doubt in my mind that sex wasn't part of this girl's game to get out of this.
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    Stop seeing her as wrong here...your on the job and get involved with her at all.ia beyond dumb...im.pretty sure they raped her...

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    The responses from guys in thread is the typical.bs that she is at fault...as the one guy said in train8ng day..thw peanut butter story..when I see the guy on streets in gonna do him..makes u think those d3tectives might of stepped on wrong person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Kraken View Post
    See my post to Kermit for how I feel about this in general but I gotta give it to you, the bolded portion made me
    Really wanted to make an inappropriate joke about that post. Damn it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nyplayer33 View Post
    Stop seeing her as wrong here...your on the job and get involved with her at all.ia beyond dumb...im.pretty sure they raped her...
    So they raped her and then just let her go without even threatening her? Meanwhile they knew that she was with friends who knew who she was with? She most likely willingly fukked these cops to keep her druggie friends from getting arrested. These cops fukked up, no doubt and should get the maximum punishment for what they did. There are also some other stories about her after the supposed rape that don't make any sense of someone who was recently violated.

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    Cops put their lives on the line every day. So they boned a dipshiite 18-year-old that was dumb enough to get arrested, who probably propositioned them. I give them a pass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiDNiTe View Post

    They ****** her in the cop car, are you trying to dispute the DNA in her?
    Quote Originally Posted by The Kraken View Post
    No, I go with the evidence.

    I'm referring to the circus of midgets in here saying it never happened.
    Krak Not denying they didn't bang that VAG... I'm saying it was consensual. The bitch saying false sh#$.

    When you own a business... and women think you have $ and/or a prestigious job.... 1/30 women are the ones looking to start trouble. They do it for fun. She definitely seems like the type. Her style matches and everything.

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    If it goes to trial....do we think a jury won't be anti police with all the stuff that has gone on the last few years ?? That bail amount of 125k and 250k is very high and it's a 50 count indictment. You don't ever have sex on duty because you could very well end up in a huge indictment. Suspended without pay...and more. Supposedly it was her having pot and couple of tranquilers...video shows her exiting police can and leaving. It's just a indictment....but an utter disaster.

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    Minutes after two New York detectives stopped an 18-year-old Brooklyn woman last month for having marijuana in her car, they placed her into handcuffs and put her into their police van, prosecutors said. Describing himself and his partner as “freaks,” one of the detectives forced the young woman to perform oral sex on him and raped her, prosecutors said, switching places within moments to let the other assault her, too.

    This chilling account was offered in court on Monday morning as the Brooklyn district attorney’s office unsealed a 50-count indictment against the detectives, Edward Martins and Richard Hall, charging them with rape, kidnapping and official misconduct.

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    She’s a teenager and she was basically kidnapped into a police vehicle without any justification,” the attorney said. “She had her handcuffs on when they raped her.”

    The detectives then forced her out of the minivan — about 45 minutes after taking her into custody — and drove off.

    Her friend went to the 60th Precinct and found the victim nearby.

    Ex-NJ prep star Kevin Olsen pleads not guilty to rape charges

    “She was like ‘They just f----- me,’ ” the friend said. “I couldn’t have done anything but it was definitely just one of those damn moments.”

    The friend took the victim to her parents, who rushed her to Maimonides Hospital for an exam. Doctors there found signs of sexual assault and called police who started the investigation, David said.

    Internal Affairs hadn’t interviewed the detectives as of Friday as they wait for Brooklyn prosecutors to finish their Iinvestigation, but Martins and Hall told colleagues that the sex was consensual, according to the high-ranking police source.

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    Signs of sexual asssult !!! How the heck do you do that..unreal. one guy married with 2 kids..splendid.

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    Obviously it looks real bad why would you have sex with someone u just arrested, she's in handcuffs ffs

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    will be a messy trial

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    No woman should be raped no matter how they are dressed. It's their body and last time I checked it's a free country.

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    This cossack is tricky, no pun intended. Consensual or not she got the city right where she wants them

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    District attorney doesn't wanna look dumb...not thinking they put 50 count indictments on detectives without supporting evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nyplayer33 View Post
    If it goes to trial....do we think a jury won't be anti police with all the stuff that has gone on the last few years ?? .
    I can't speak for everyone but I see many more people even more pro police now knowing what they have to put up with now a days.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by nyplayer33 View Post
    If it goes to trial....do we think a jury won't be anti police with all the stuff that has gone on the last few years ?? That bail amount of 125k and 250k is very high and it's a 50 count indictment. You don't ever have sex on duty because you could very well end up in a huge indictment. Suspended without pay...and more. Supposedly it was her having pot and couple of tranquilers...video shows her exiting police can and leaving. It's just a indictment....but an utter disaster.
    For 50 mil, I'm pretty sure jury selection is going to be long fought and drawn out

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    Such a difference in culture

    Back in Russia this would probably be another Friday night

    Over here its hitting the jackpot on the taxpayer's dime

    She probably had rougher sex with the female porn stars at the convention than these 2 saps playing detective

    Maybe if they had performed better in the van she wouldn't be pressing charges

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    Chick goes to porn conventions?

    These guys were detectives. They know very well what would happen if they raped her.

    You can’t make assumptions, I know.

    But...

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Kraken View Post
    That's really all you needed to say, the rest didn't need to be said especially in the way you said. Imagine that girl was your daughter and a couple cops handcuffed her and actually raped her, you would want them held accountable I hope. The reality is it doesn't matter if she is a whore, that would not preclude her from being raped and I could theorize why that would actually entice cops to rape her.

    It seems most guys, yourself included in this instance, start at the premise there is a good chance the female is lying and that she is presumed a whore as opposed to supporting the female and starting with the premise that she's telling the truth.

    You're certainly not alone, the thought train is prevalent and men tend to assume women that claim rape are whores and are lying. And as the father of a daughter, that is a sad reality.
    lol don't ever think kraken can prove himself to be stupider than you already think

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    She's 18 yrs old..whst part do you not understand..why the hecj are 2 detectives involved in any way but official business. They were making 75k plus a year with a pension that is among the best in the country. This never is newsworthy if 2 idiots didn't do this. Evidence shows this was a crime...your ok with them having sex with her..i worked in law enforcement..im not. Is love to be the internal affairs detectives taking there shields. Even if consensual..they are fired and facing charges!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nyplayer33 View Post
    She's 18 yrs old..whst part do you not understand..why the hecj are 2 detectives involved in any way but official business. They were making 75k plus a year with a pension that is among the best in the country. This never is newsworthy if 2 idiots didn't do this. Evidence shows this was a crime...your ok with them having sex with her..i worked in law enforcement..im not. Is love to be the internal affairs detectives taking there shields. Even if consensual..they are fired and facing charges!!!!!
    lol good one

    internal affairs is more worthless than the CIA/FBI


    the odds of this being rape are about 1%.


    No one in real life acts like this chick after being raped.

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    There is no law on the books saying any sex with someone under arrest or a prisoner as rape...yes even if consensual...there is proposals to say any sex is a rape..cause if your a prisoner or under arrest you can't have consensual sex. Laws for correction officers and probation officers in my city exists..2 idiot detectives watching too much porn. Hope they ate guilty and give her 100 million..

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    Internal affairs goes after screwups..if you are legit you have no worries. Mr 1 percent...i don't know if this is true or not..but if I told you 2 nypd detectives were killing for mob..would u give that 1 percent?? Well they were found guilty...google nypd mafia cops.

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    18 yr old girl...is not coming up with idea to screw 2 cops..no way...

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    Quote Originally Posted by brooks85 View Post
    lol good one

    internal affairs is more worthless than the CIA/FBI


    the odds of this being rape are about 1%.


    No one in real life acts like this chick after being raped.
    She's 18 and they're on the job. Everything else is moot. Douchebag.

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