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  • ABEHONEST
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 06-27-09
    • 9470

    #1
    Boys, trust old ABE, Bovada is going to hell!
    Yep, long story and I am so damn mad at [the world, too?] , believing, there are way too many shysters out there in our new world and not enough honest folks to help keep them straight.

    After wasting my very valuable time of an hour--okay, it is to me, Bovada did the complete reversal of what an honest Book would do; that is, not cancel a highly controversial wager. A good sized wager, too.
    They have faulty wagering software and they evidently want to take advantage of it's flaws because it sure seems their wagering side cannot lose...and my side cannot win. Do they like it that way? Well, after talking to two hardheaded young Bovada helpers and a so-called supervisor, it sure seems 100% to me, that is a fact.

    It's such a selfish example of them not giving a customer a break, it's almost unbelievable. l

    More on this ugly story after I recuperate some of my over heated faculties.
  • shocka1212
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 10-06-12
    • 16788

    #2
    almost as questionable as them making may weather -375 at one point on the day of the fight.
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    • slayer14
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 08-12-13
      • 22007

      #3
      Its a Cost Rican bookie they lack the facilities
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      • ABEHONEST
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 06-27-09
        • 9470

        #4
        Just a quickie. Bovada is far, far from a A+ Book. That is of now, and as far as it's past history, I have no clue and do not care.
        I want to give back their free bonus money get my refunds and never hear of that name again. SBR needs to do a poll and see if Bovada is as lousy now as they seem to be to me?
        My rating right now would be a D-.
        Also, while at it, Sbr, prompt them to "fix" that faulty, tricky wagering software.
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        • JIBBBY
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 12-10-09
          • 83691

          #5
          I've been with Bovada for years now..

          Bovada has a new layout on their website, they have a new bonus level rewards program where you acquire bet points by just your volume of play and a small percentage rebate on your losses..You can also cash out your bet points free play at any time.

          I don't like it.. It only funds the casino in free play and not the sports free play from what I've seen so far.. A small rollover goes into effect as well.. Still it's all free stuff so I can't complain.. I just liked the old system better..

          Bovada has never screwed me over but has caused me some trouble in the past.. I'm still on board... You can win money with their casino play also.. I find it far more generous then other books with the casino play..
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          • Easy-Rider 66
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 02-14-12
            • 36081

            #6
            Left BoDog/ Bovada many years ago never to return. Weak shop imo. They do pay however.
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            • msutter
              SBR MVP
              • 03-14-07
              • 1162

              #7
              Bovada has always had the best customer service in the business in my experience. They reply to emails very quickly and whenever I call in I usually get a super clear phone line with a competent person on the other end that speaks clean English. Bovada odds aren't good on favs, but they usually have some of the best dog odds. You can live bet on almost anything. Their old bonus program was very generous. The new rewards program might be good as well, but I haven't played their enough recently to get a sense of its value. Whenever I cashout it says that my payout won't be processed for 2-3 days, but I almost always get the money within a day.

              Maybe they're on the decline like you said or it could just be this isolated incident you're having with them. Even good companies don't get everything right all the time. Hard to say much more since you've provided very little detail in two posts in a thread you created.
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              • ABEHONEST
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 06-27-09
                • 9470

                #8
                Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66
                Left BoDog/ Bovada many years ago never to return. Weak shop imo. They do pay however.
                But have they turned into shysters? That is the question and I think I can prove them to be dishonest with their wagering window where it plainly states "buy points, "offering a 1/2 point.
                Yet, they claim another story?
                We'll see.
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                • daneblazer
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 09-14-08
                  • 27861

                  #9
                  Time to call the Ayre Force
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                  • LVHerbie
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 09-15-05
                    • 6344

                    #10
                    20 cent lines on baseball now, no more weekly casino bonuses. Pretty vanilla book these days.
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                    • ABEHONEST
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 06-27-09
                      • 9470

                      #11
                      Let Bovada explain the latest offer on Clemson/Auburn? I took Auburn and bought the offered 1/2 point, as you can see on this wager ad. What did I get when I used the wager review [hidden line when I bought the supposed advertised 1/2 point.] So I didn't know I got nothing but the same +6 until I sent the wager in.
                      However, I did get the juice added on, the 1.20.
                      I really believe the line I originally played was Auburn +6 -1.05. Then, when I bought the offered 1/2 point, it went to + 6-1.20.

                      *Here is their line 5 minutes ago. You judge.

                      Auburn+6 (-120)Close
                      CollegeSat 9/9/17@7:00p
                      Auburn @ Clemson
                      Point Spread
                      Buy Points Options Info
                      Buy ½ point (-120)
                      Risk
                      Win
                      0 BETS SELECTEDREMOVE ALL
                      Total Risk $0.00Total Win $0.00
                      REVIEW BETS
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                      • RoyBacon
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 09-21-05
                        • 37074

                        #12
                        Played there back when they were TheBigBook. No problems. Were once the best on CCs, might still be. Worth shopping the props especially 1- off events like elections. Sorry Abe on your deal.
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                        • lonegambler23
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 06-22-16
                          • 9761

                          #13
                          dude just book at 5dimes and stop whining, its really that simple.
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                          • msutter
                            SBR MVP
                            • 03-14-07
                            • 1162

                            #14
                            Originally posted by ABEHONEST
                            Let Bovada explain the latest offer on Clemson/Auburn? I took Auburn and bought the offered 1/2 point, as you can see on this wager ad. What did I get when I used the wager review [hidden line when I bought the supposed advertised 1/2 point.] So I didn't know I got nothing but the same +6 until I sent the wager in.
                            However, I did get the juice added on, the 1.20.
                            I really believe the line I originally played was Auburn +6 -1.05. Then, when I bought the offered 1/2 point, it went to + 6-1.20.

                            *Here is their line 5 minutes ago. You judge.

                            Auburn+6 (-120)Close
                            CollegeSat 9/9/17@7:00p
                            Auburn @ Clemson
                            Point Spread
                            Buy Points Options Info
                            Buy ½ point (-120)
                            Risk
                            Win
                            0 BETS SELECTEDREMOVE ALL
                            Total Risk $0.00Total Win $0.00
                            REVIEW BETS
                            Bovada is showing me Auburn +6 -115. Don't see an option to buy points
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                            • ABEHONEST
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 06-27-09
                              • 9470

                              #15
                              Originally posted by RoyBacon
                              Played there back when they were TheBigBook. No problems. Were once the best on CCs, might still be. Worth shopping the props especially 1- off events like elections. Sorry Abe on your deal.
                              Well, ABE is not the complacent type when he believes he's been taken advantage of. Thanks for your concern.
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                              • turbobets
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 01-13-06
                                • 995

                                #16
                                Shows Auburn +6.0 -115 all day today on DB.
                                Last edited by turbobets; 09-06-17, 07:54 PM.
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                                • ABEHONEST
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 06-27-09
                                  • 9470

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by msutter
                                  Bovada is showing me Auburn +6 -115. Don't see an option to buy points
                                  Maybe they finally doctored it up? But I just posted that line above, yet it may be the one I saved a few hours ago? I am not quite sure, but a blind man can see where the 1/2 point offer is stated, and yes, it was there at least 4 times earlier today when I went back to double-check to see if I could prove them wrong. And yes, they are proven wrong with the exact copy above with the +6 and the extra 1/2 point offer.
                                  They firmly stated several times..."we don't offer 1/2 points on even numbers." Wrong and they were not very nice about it either.

                                  Where ever choice they make, they already look like assholes.
                                  * How many Books refuse to cancel a wager if you seriously complain within minutes of posting it?
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                                  • BigOrange
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 08-13-09
                                    • 6745

                                    #18
                                    Abe go ahead and post your betslip so we can see that you actually bought 1/2 on the wager and it will also show the date and time of the wager. This can be checked against their line history but they also deal dual lines to different customers so it's harder to verify.
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                                    • msutter
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 03-14-07
                                      • 1162

                                      #19
                                      Well hopefully they cover for you and it's a semi happy ending. Then you can cash out and take your business elsewhere if you think they did you dirty. GL
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                                      • BigOrange
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 08-13-09
                                        • 6745

                                        #20
                                        You can only buy up or down to even numbers so you weren't going to get 6.5 if the line was 6. If it was 5.5 then you could buy it up to 6.
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                                        • Sam Odom
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 10-30-05
                                          • 58063

                                          #21
                                          feel sorry for abe
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                                          • ABEHONEST
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 06-27-09
                                            • 9470

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by turbobets
                                            They were at 5 1/2 earlier today maybe bad timing for you. When did you place the wager?
                                            My veteran senses tell me they were making all efforts to hang me. I had been winning lately with them, and I am a vet of sports gambling. I bet they kiss the behinds of their young gullible members?
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                                            • jjgold
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 07-20-05
                                              • 388189

                                              #23
                                              I haven't played a Bovada in eight years and we play at the top books only
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                                              • turbobets
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 01-13-06
                                                • 995

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by ABEHONEST
                                                My veteran senses tell me they were making all efforts to hang me. I had been winning lately with them, and I am a vet of sports gambling. I bet they kiss the behinds of their young gullible members?
                                                Corrected my post above they were not at 5 1/2 today.
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                                                • msutter
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 03-14-07
                                                  • 1162

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by turbobets
                                                  Corrected my post above they were not at 5 1/2 today.
                                                  And even if they were +6 is a better number than +5.5
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                                                  • ABEHONEST
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 06-27-09
                                                    • 9470

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by msutter
                                                    Well hopefully they cover for you and it's a semi happy ending. Then you can cash out and take your business elsewhere if you think they did you dirty. GL
                                                    Thanks, that's exactly what I intended after today. However, I have some rollover and cash bonus, yet they can stick that up their behinds. I just want out with my balance and win money, if I am indeed stuck with this bet?
                                                    I cannot handle anything that looks sleazy and this decision by them looks sleazy.
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                                                    • ABEHONEST
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 06-27-09
                                                      • 9470

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by jjgold
                                                      I haven't played a Bovada in eight years and we play at the top books only
                                                      You're a wiser, older man now.
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                                                      • ABEHONEST
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 06-27-09
                                                        • 9470

                                                        #28
                                                        Add this statement to the list of unbelievables by BOVADA.
                                                        All three Bovada employees told me after I asked them this question..."Are you telling me you haven't seen this wagering-software problem before?"
                                                        All three said, never, no one had had this problem. For one thing--why do they not make this non-buying rule on even numbers, right there in the wagering box for all to see. Now how hard is that to do?
                                                        Not stating it in the box is the sole reason I have this headache right now. There is NO excuse not to have it listed there...none.

                                                        Get this one. After they answered that statement about no one else has had that wagering problem, get this; I know one fellow personally, that had the same almost identical problem as I did.
                                                        With all the hundreds, maybe a few thousand customers, they had the gall to state that I was the only customer with that issue.
                                                        BS! I was the other person with the same identical problem Saturday. I even filed a complaint with them about it Sat. or Sunday. I think Sat. Thank goodness the bet didn't take that time. Even though something weird happened every time I tried to get that option shown, buying a 1/2 point. The line was 8 I do believe, yet when I tried to buy the extra offered 1/2 point, the 8 went to 7 1/2. And I tried several times and got the same response.. dropping down to 7 & 1/2.

                                                        When I filled out that complaint, they sent the usual reply that is so popular these days, via email..." Thank you, we will get back in less than 24 hours."
                                                        Guess what? They didn't get back or resolve the problem so here I am again 4 days later.
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                                                        • Sam Odom
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 10-30-05
                                                          • 58063

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Sam Odom

                                                          feel sorry for abe

                                                          ... x2
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                                                          • ABEHONEST
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 06-27-09
                                                            • 9470

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Sam Odom
                                                            ... x2
                                                            Let's face it Sam, you continue to make me disrespect you with your backstabbing. You are not a faithful bud to member's of SBR. This I know and soon I hope your followers will find out the real truth someday.
                                                            Good luck with your shaky promoting foundation.

                                                            You lost me long ago by "appearing to be a con-man." Maybe your wife knows the truth? :?
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                                                            • Sam Odom
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 10-30-05
                                                              • 58063

                                                              #31
                                                              feel sorry for you because every book you deposit is out to screw you one way or another

                                                              it is Documented
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                                                              • ABEHONEST
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 06-27-09
                                                                • 9470

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Sam Odom
                                                                feel sorry for you because every book you deposit is out to screw you one way or another

                                                                it is Documented
                                                                You continue to do this for some reason? Bookies Bud?
                                                                My guess? Maybe you want to confess your continued backstabbing? If so, make it worthwhile, because I get bored real easy by jealous con-men, which I do believe that is your real personal problem with me?

                                                                I am an experienced veteran of watching and trying to understand the human race and seek the truth of what makes these individuals make the the decisions they make, and I seem to detect something not quite healthy by the way you enjoy attacking certain individuals. Is it only me? And I have questioned your motives in the past about all this betting promoting you do?That must be the motive?
                                                                I now question your basic character? Maybe your wife knows the real Sam?
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                                                                • swordsandtequila
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 02-23-12
                                                                  • 9756

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by ABEHONEST
                                                                  Add this statement to the list of unbelievables by BOVADA.
                                                                  All three Bovada employees told me after I asked them this question..."Are you telling me you haven't seen this wagering-software problem before?"
                                                                  All three said, never, no one had had this problem. For one thing--why do they not make this non-buying rule on even numbers, right there in the wagering box for all to see. Now how hard is that to do?
                                                                  Not stating it in the box is the sole reason I have this headache right now. There is NO excuse not to have it listed there...none.

                                                                  Get this one. After they answered that statement about no one else has had that wagering problem, get this; I know one fellow personally, that had the same almost identical problem as I did.
                                                                  With all the hundreds, maybe a few thousand customers, they had the gall to state that I was the only customer with that issue.
                                                                  BS! I was the other person with the same identical problem Saturday. I even filed a complaint with them about it Sat. or Sunday. I think Sat. Thank goodness the bet didn't take that time. Even though something weird happened every time I tried to get that option shown, buying a 1/2 point. The line was 8 I do believe, yet when I tried to buy the extra offered 1/2 point, the 8 went to 7 1/2. And I tried several times and got the same response.. dropping down to 7 & 1/2.

                                                                  When I filled out that complaint, they sent the usual reply that is so popular these days, via email..." Thank you, we will get back in less than 24 hours."
                                                                  Guess what? They didn't get back or resolve the problem so here I am again 4 days later.
                                                                  Everything one needs to know.
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                                                                  • ABEHONEST
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 06-27-09
                                                                    • 9470

                                                                    #34
                                                                    I've heard and seen enough from "Sam" til next week.


                                                                    It's time to try and fight Bovada and look for a scratch of that unintended play of Auburn +6. One note some seem, or may not have understood: Before you go for that extra 1/2 point, the review screen [this time for sure] does not show you what your buying so you have to believe you are getting the 1/2 point. While processing mine did stay at 6 and I then followed through with the buying process.
                                                                    It does show you the charge for the extra 1/2 point, since it plainly stated 1 fresh new rate of 1.20, not 1.05, or 1.10 as the original +6 did.

                                                                    I do have SBR, I hope, watching my back. With guys like you unowho, bettors need all the help they can get to keep our Books operating with dedicated honesty and NOT using tricky software or deep hidden rules that seem to never surface until they have you hung.
                                                                    Thanks for your ear.
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                                                                    • bigtymer56
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 07-31-12
                                                                      • 4742

                                                                      #35
                                                                      What a surprise...once again somebody is trying to screw over poor ABE. How many people are on that list? Don't forget to include target.

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