Supreme Court accepts New Jersey sports betting case.

**infamousbacardi** · 06-27-17, 09:02 AM

Doesn't make sense that some states can do it and others can't when the challenge brought by NJ is one of Federal Law. How can a Federal Law prevent one state from doing something and not another under same/similar grounds. I think NJ will likely win and industry is about to change forever.

**Sam Odom** · 06-27-17, 09:04 AM

Originally posted by infamousbacardi

I think NJ will likely win and industry is about to change forever.

too late for Sammy...

hope you young guys take full advantage of the changes

**xraygord** · 06-27-17, 09:39 AM

Originally posted by infamousbacardi

Doesn't make sense that some states can do it and others can't when the challenge brought by NJ is one of Federal Law. How can a Federal Law prevent one state from doing something and not another under same/similar grounds. I think NJ will likely win and industry is about to change forever.

Crooked politicians, organised crime and money.

**infamousbacardi** · 06-27-17, 09:51 AM

Originally posted by xraygord

Crooked politicians, organised crime and money.

Much agreed, but now you have the leagues coming around and beginning to align with the "Yay" voters. The Professional and Amateur Sports Protection act of 1992 that outlawed sports betting in the U.S., with the exception of Nevada's already well-established legal and regulated betting not only seems unconstitutional but it begins to seem even more archaic when the actual professional sports leagues begin to favor the legalization of sports betting, as the NBA and others have begun to do.

It's only a matter of time at this point, whether it be 2018 via the SCOTUS decision (which I believe it to be) or a couple years thereafter when the professional leagues officially support repeal and/or modification of PASPA 1992.

**Auto Donk** · 06-27-17, 09:55 AM

time to break out the ol' Honey Pot and start trappin' fuks like henry reid again.....

**capitalist pig** · 06-27-17, 10:35 AM

If they rule in favor of NJ, that opens it up in all states if I read the article right. A win makes it the rule of the land, not just NJ.

There are a lot of big ifs here but a win for NJ will not be a good time to holding any BTC.

Later

**Auto Donk** · 06-27-17, 10:55 AM

Newly-minted mobster JJ Gold and other wise guys feeling confident about the outcome of the Supreme Court case:

**infamousbacardi** · 06-27-17, 10:58 AM

Originally posted by capitalist pig

If they rule in favor of NJ, that opens it up in all states if I read the article right. A win makes it the rule of the land, not just NJ.

There are a lot of big ifs here but a win for NJ will not be a good time to holding any BTC.

Later

If the SCOTUS rules in favor of NJ, it would make it legal for every state that then chose to make it legal, yes.

**jjgold** · 06-27-17, 11:09 AM

Supreme Court agrees to rule on sports betting

Supreme Court agrees to rule on sports betting
11:06 AM ET
David Purdum
ESPN Staff Writer
The U.S. Supreme Court announced Tuesday that it will hear New Jersey's appeal to offer legal sports betting, a surprising twist in the state's nearly five-year battle with the major American sports leagues.

A victory for New Jersey would allow the state to offer legal sports betting at its casinos and racetracks and potentially jump-start a state-by-state expansion across the nation. Tuesday's decision was the first setback for the NCAA, NFL, NBA, NHL and MLB in the lengthy saga. The leagues twice sued New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie after he signed sports betting legislation in 2012 and 2014.

New Jersey had lost every step of the way, and it was considered unlikely that the high court would hear its case. In May, Solicitor General Jeffrey Wall submitted an opinion advising the Supreme Court to pass on the case. The court normally follows Department of Justice recommendations.

The Supreme Court will now take a close look at the Professional and Amateur Sports Protection Act of 1992, the federal prohibition on state-sponsored sports betting.

**jjgold** · 06-27-17, 11:24 AM

The problem is even if it passes it's gonna keep getting challenged and never happen

**swordsandtequila** · 06-27-17, 11:29 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

The problem is even if it passes it's gonna keep getting challenged and never happen

**infamousbacardi** · 06-27-17, 11:30 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

The problem is even if it passes it's gonna keep getting challenged and never happen

Won't get challenged as much as you'd think if the major sports organizations are endorsing it though. That's the major money lobby that would fight it.

**VeggieDog** · 06-27-17, 11:36 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

The problem is even if it passes it's gonna keep getting challenged and never happen

They'll market it like they did the lottery - all that tax money going to schools. "It's for the children!" Voters eat that stuff up.

**dlowilly** · 06-27-17, 01:06 PM

Originally posted by capitalist pig

There are a lot of big ifs here but a win for NJ will not be a good time to holding any BTC.

Why is that? Are you saying offshore gambling is a significant part of bitcoin transactions? Could be, IDK

**jjgold** · 06-27-17, 02:45 PM

Bitcoin is a dot on the map with gambling

lol

rookie day

**reigle9** · 06-27-17, 02:53 PM

not good news for the jersey mafia jj

what are you going to do now?

**reigle9** · 06-27-17, 02:54 PM

or is everyone going to be appointed legit jobs?

i have a hell of a tan and am soulless if there's openings

**chidondollars** · 06-27-17, 03:21 PM

That means sports book cash will be available for New Jersey residents

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**gauchojake** · 06-27-17, 04:41 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

The problem is even if it passes it's gonna keep getting challenged and never happen

Yes I'm sure that the Extra Double Supreme Court will be chomping at the bit to hear the appeal.

**SharpAngles** · 06-27-17, 04:53 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

The problem is even if it passes it's gonna keep getting challenged and never happen

**Snowball** · 06-27-17, 05:14 PM

If the SCOTUS opens this up then the states with the LEAST TO LOSE
by going against wishes of NFL, NCAA, NHL, MLB, etc will be the ones to
go full monkey on it. So think of liberal-leaning states with no stadiums.
Rhode Island definitely.. the general assembly is a criminal organization.

**alling** · 06-27-17, 05:35 PM

legalized fantasy sports has turned the tide.

**reigle9** · 06-27-17, 06:45 PM

Originally posted by alling

legalized fantasy sports has turned the tide.

because it's a game of skill

everything is ass backwards

**daneblazer** · 06-27-17, 06:45 PM

This is big news. I think the courts will rule in favor of letting states determine whether or not they allow sports gambling. The leagues are in favor of it. Paspa will be overturned and then shit gets real

**anthonydiamondLC** · 06-27-17, 06:58 PM

This will still never put bookies out of business. Everybody would much rather bet on credit then have to put up cash. Now the very recreational player will have access. Lets be real the people that want to bet are already betting. I'm hearing their also gonna juice up the vig. Expect to be paying -120 at AC sportsbooks.

**BriGuy** · 06-27-17, 07:43 PM

I think it is funny how New Jersey is doing all the work to get this legalized and if/when they win, they will be surrounded by at least 3 states (NY, DE, CT) who will legalize it as well, so NJ won't even see all that much gain. PA will probably legalize it too eventually but I guess maybe all those Philly people can head to Atlantic City for a short while..... Maybe the NYC people will find it easiest to cross the bridge/tunnel into Jersey instead of staying instate......

**BriGuy** · 06-27-17, 07:45 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

The problem is even if it passes it's gonna keep getting challenged and never happen

uh, there's no "challenges" left after the US Supreme Court rules. They're kinda the final word on the matter.

**BriGuy** · 06-27-17, 07:48 PM

Originally posted by capitalist pig

If they rule in favor of NJ, that opens it up in all states if I read the article right. A win makes it the rule of the land, not just NJ.
There are a lot of big ifs here but a win for NJ will not be a good time to holding any BTC.

It doesn't make it legal *everywhere*, it just lets each state decide for themselves. Right now federal law makes single-game sports betting illegal everywhere except Nevada. If that federal law is struck down, each state will be able to make their own determination.

We know CT, NJ, DE and NY want in. I have no doubt some southeastern states like AL, MS and LA would get in too. Maybe FL, but don't quote me on that. I believe I read OK was moving forward. I don't know much about the wild west, but I sure wouldn't be surprised to see Big Sky country allow it too.

**jjgold** · 06-27-17, 07:53 PM

It'll be an interesting case I think the ruling will be sometime in the winter

**BriGuy** · 06-27-17, 07:58 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

It'll be an interesting case I think the ruling will be sometime in the winter

The ruling could be made pretty much anytime after November, but it'll be announced late spring next year.

**MalikHusam** · 06-27-17, 08:06 PM

yes please

**StackinGreen** · 06-28-17, 02:14 PM

New York can't run an OTB system with 15-25% vig but they can run a sports betting entity with around 10%?

PASPA is the most clearly unconstitutional law (that is well known) on the books. Whether state governments can produce a decent betting product is the more interesting question, indeed. Recall also that like in horses, federal taxes potentially become an issue, because when you cash, it's all tracked.

My hope is that the new market just makes everyone more competitive, including my local yokel.

**daneblazer** · 06-28-17, 02:21 PM

(Rob Ryan fukk yea gif)

**Philmill** · 06-28-17, 07:49 PM

In the old country "England" there is a sportsbook damn near on every street corner

like beer pubs.....the USA Supreme Court will bring us up to speed