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    Watford at Chelsea - England Premier League - Monday..ANYONE????????????

    101 Watford (ENG-P) +1 +129 +1230 Over 3 +126
    102 Chelsea (ENG-P) -1 -144 -393 Under 3 -141
    Draw +582






    Soccer England Spread Money Line Total Points
    Watford at Chelsea - England Premier League - Monday, May 15, 2017 3:00 PM
    101 Watford (ENG-P) +2 -213 Over 2 -203
    102 Chelsea (ENG-P) -2 +183 Under 2 +177
    101 Watford (ENG-P) +1,+2 +100 Over 4 +291
    102 Chelsea (ENG-P) -1,-2 -115 Under 4 -341

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    Pass

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    Lines don't make sense either...BOL

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    Nothing left to play for, everything is wrapped up in the prem

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    lines crazy on game

    looking at -1.5

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    It's certainly feasible, chelsea has better backups than Watfords starters

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    Under 3.5 Goals @ 1.73 Bet Victor / SkyBet

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    Wouldn't touch this game with a 10 feet pole.

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    Does anyone with more soccer experience than my own Canadian self know how yellow cards / red cards work on last weekend, 'meaningless' games like this one? (For God's sake soccer, get some playoffs!)

    The line's artificially low at 3, with a pretty cardsy ref, but I'm wondering if these worthless gms at the end are played more like friendlies than real matches.

    Anybody out there know enough about soccer to enlighten this canuck? Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadymcgrady View Post
    Nothing left to play for, everything is wrapped up in the prem
    Pool city and arsenal still playing for champions league

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    I play cards. This isnt the last game of the year.
    Watford will still be professional, it wont be a played like a friendly. It may be more open and chelsea will be in the mood to party - but Watford wont. Its still a derby game, a weak one but still a derby.


    Id say over 3.5 is more reasonable, look to see if Costa starts along with Terry - they will likely have an influence.
    Theres not a lot in it, but id expect over 3.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by cashin81 View Post
    I play cards. This isnt the last game of the year.
    Watford will still be professional, it wont be a played like a friendly. It may be more open and chelsea will be in the mood to party - but Watford wont. Its still a derby game, a weak one but still a derby.


    Id say over 3.5 is more reasonable, look to see if Costa starts along with Terry - they will likely have an influence.
    Theres not a lot in it, but id expect over 3.5
    Thanks for your excellent reply. You'll be happy to know the cards line is actually only 2.5 or 3. GL to both of us on our OV's!

    I've only just started betting cards, but I have a question maybe you can help me with: what's the effect of weather (high winds and/or rain) on cards? It seems like the slick field would cause more contact and therefore more cards, but in the only game I've watched in the rain, the ref seemed to accept that the increased contact was weather driven so cards didn't rise.

    Is that the refs' general approach to bad weather or was that just too small a data set to see an 'increased cards in bad weather' effect? Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thetrinity View Post
    Pool city and arsenal still playing for champions league
    Pool, city and arsenal aren't playing today at 3

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    I'd be surprised if costa, hazard or Kante play at all today. Cahill is Def out. Looking at willian to be the biggest threa to score on the pitch today

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeanPeopleSuck View Post
    Thanks for your excellent reply. You'll be happy to know the cards line is actually only 2.5 or 3. GL to both of us on our OV's!

    I've only just started betting cards, but I have a question maybe you can help me with: what's the effect of weather (high winds and/or rain) on cards? It seems like the slick field would cause more contact and therefore more cards, but in the only game I've watched in the rain, the ref seemed to accept that the increased contact was weather driven so cards didn't rise.

    Is that the refs' general approach to bad weather or was that just too small a data set to see an 'increased cards in bad weather' effect? Thanks!
    Id be more worried of the lineup. You would want costa to start but Batshuayi probably will.
    The ref cant ignore a yellow card foul really, they may let play on with little fouls in heavy rain- but a bad foul cant be really ignored.
    i still say its a good bet regardless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadymcgrady View Post
    Nothing left to play for, everything is wrapped up in the prem
    Chelsea have a chance to set a new season wins record and I think Conte wants it. Don't see them hanging loose here I expect them to push the pace.

    Playing the -1.5, -2 -129

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    Quote Originally Posted by SharpAngles View Post
    Chelsea have a chance to set a new season wins record and I think Conte wants it. Don't see them hanging loose here I expect them to push the pace.

    Playing the -1.5, -2 -129
    Yeah that's true but I'd think the fa cup is more important to them right now especially since the previous record holder is alrdy chelsea to begin with

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadymcgrady View Post
    I'd be surprised if costa, hazard or Kante play at all today. Cahill is Def out. Looking at willian to be the biggest threa to score on the pitch today
    So do you like the UN?

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    Team to face Watford: Begovic, Zouma, Terry (c), Ake, Azpilicueta, Kante, Chalobah, Kenedy, Willian, Batshuayi, Hazard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeanPeopleSuck View Post
    So do you like the UN?
    Watford is banged up and chelsea most likely resting their stars. The best bet is probably chelsea to win but the odds make it hard to bet

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    Quote Originally Posted by cashin81 View Post
    Team to face Watford: Begovic, Zouma, Terry (c), Ake, Azpilicueta, Kante, Chalobah, Kenedy, Willian, Batshuayi, Hazard.
    If hazard is out there it's always worth a stab

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    Quote Originally Posted by cashin81 View Post
    Id be more worried of the lineup. You would want costa to start but Batshuayi probably will.
    The ref cant ignore a yellow card foul really, they may let play on with little fouls in heavy rain- but a bad foul cant be really ignored.
    i still say its a good bet regardless.
    But it sounds like you're not betting the OV 3 cards bet yourself? If not, what factor that I'm not seeing is keeping you away? (Like I said, I'm new to cards betting, so there's tons of stuff I might've missed). Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadymcgrady View Post
    Watford is banged up and chelsea most likely resting their stars. The best bet is probably chelsea to win but the odds make it hard to bet
    Thanks for the reply; you obviously know your stuff. BTW, vc screen name / avvie combo.

    Any feeling on the OV/UN 3 cards bet? The ref is Mason, definitely a top half of EPL cards lister, and Watford's the top carded team in EPL, but I fear the lack of importance of the game may lead to -- ugh -- politeness.
    Last edited by MeanPeopleSuck; 05-15-17 at 01:35 PM.

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    i was waiting for lineups...
    Im taking it...

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    good call on the over men

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    good call on the over men
    Heh, thanks, but I just got lucky. I haven't played soccer since I was 10 and before this year hadn't seen a game in probably a decade. All credit goes to Cashin and the very cool screen named ShadyMcgrady.

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    Soccer games eventually put you in poorhouse

    We love the action though


    Would love to know if people bet it for a living

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