RIP Ali

[mikejamm]

Ali wasn't the only American to say fuk killing people in Vietnam and burn his draft card, just the most outspoken and famous man to do so. Fuk a war run by ignorant politicians, had I been draft age, they would have gotten the fuk'in middle finger from me too!

[JArrieta49]

Ali wasn't the only American to say fuk killing people in Vietnam and burn his draft card, just the most outspoken and famous man to do so. Fuk a war run by ignorant politicians, had I been draft age, they would have gotten the fuk'in middle finger from me too!

Easy to say now. Ultimately, it did stop the spread of communism, although one could argue it might not have spread anyway. Easy to say now that the cold war is over.

[mikejamm]

Easy to say now. Ultimately, it did stop the spread of communism, although one could argue it might not have spread anyway. Easy to say now that the cold war is over.

It didn't stop shit you dumb fuk, go read your history. Over 50,000+ young Americans lost their lives and South Vietnam still fell to the communist North. It was a colossal waste of life and for what...nothing! All because of dumb fuk'in political dick waging. Goes to show what happens when dumb fuk's are given power and control over our fighting forces. Are you listening brainwashed idiot Trump supporters?

[DwightShrute]

[JArrieta49]

It didn't stop shit you dumb fuk, go read your history. Over 50,000+ young Americans lost their lives and South Vietnam still fell to the communist North. It was a colossal waste of life and for what...nothing! All because of dumb fuk'in political dick waging. Goes to show what happens when dumb fuk's are given power and control over our fighting forces. Are you listening brainwashed idiot Trump supporters?

The point of the Vietnam War was to stop the spread of communism to Cambodia, Laos, Thailand, etc...

You can act like you have a crystal ball that allows you to know whether it would have reached those places if the US never intervened, but the reality is, you don't know and neither does anyone.

[Mr KLC]

[Andy117]

RIP Muhammad Ali. Dude had a great life, despite his illness, he never gave up fighting any challenge life threw his way. Exactly how real Champions live. Tough day for Louisvillians.

I'll never forget those classic Ali / Howard Cosell interviews. Cosell loved Ali and they were great friends, how many media people could you ever say were true friends with the athletes they interview.

http://www.nj.com/sports/index.ssf/2016/06/former_heavyweight_champ_muhammad_ali_dies_the_gre.html#incart_most-read_

Read this, Jerry Izenberg has covered Ali for over 50 years. Great column.

[Booya711]

People die...it is what it is

before my time so sucks but it was going to happen eventually

[Eddy Munny]

People die...it is what it is

before my time so sucks but it was going to happen eventually

That was beautiful.

You should do the eulogy.

Absolutely breathtaking!

[Booya711]

That was beautiful.

You should do the eulogy.

Absolutely breathtaking!

If they ask me too I will...put in a good word

Eddy and I will die too eventually...maybe SBR will start a thread for us when it happens

[JIBBBY]

Smoking Joe Frazier should have dropped him... George Foreman should have dropped too.. Never liked Ali...

I remember the trilla in Manila.

[d2bets]

Smoking Joe Frazier should have dropped him... George Foreman should have dropped too.. Never liked Ali...

I remember the trilla in Manila.

That's all later in his career, in his thirties He wasn't the same after he came back from suspension. He was unbeatable before that.

[19th Hole]

The World Is A Little Bit Smaller Today.
We Have Lost
A True Champion and
A Better Human Being.


RIP

[PittsburghPlayer]

What is it with Ali and pictures with Printz, the heroin addicted cross-dresser??

No comparison.

Champion VS ... a dead drug addict that dressed like a queer.

Ali had one skeleton (well publicized), that I am aware of...

Printz was one even when he was alive.

[DwightShrute]

[brooks85]

wow

About the most kind words that can be written on the forum...
agree

a man of peace

which is why it is so ironic he died a muslim lol

His quote;

"I wish people would love everybody else the way that they love me."

-a converted muslim



now that is high brow comedy.

[DwightShrute]

Muhammad Ali was as skilled with words as he was in the ring. His poignant sayings about sports and life figure to remain iconic for generations to come alongside the lore of his historic fights.
Today, in memory of the man who not only was the greatest but who also made sure to tell you he was, we rank his greatest quips.

10."I don't count the sit-ups. I only start counting when it starts hurting because they're the only ones that count. That's what makes you a champion."

Why we love it: Numbers aren't absolute. People have different bodies, are at different levels of training, have different pain thresholds. But, like many of Ali's sayings, the idea he is expressing makes a lot of sense, even when dismissing what the rest of the world sees as a benchmark.

9."Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer."

Why we love it: Although it's hard to think of many times when Ali was actually silent, a phrase like this has more impact coming from a guy who seemingly had a comeback for everything than it does from a person who is naturally quiet.

8."I wish people would love everybody else the way they love me. It would be a better world."

Why we love it: For much of Ali's career, he filled the air with the idea that the people around him didn't make him -- that he made himself. But that doesn't mean Ali didn't recognize how much people cared for him. He says as much here, relating to the age-old "athlete as a role model" dynamic and wishing people felt the same way about those around them.

7."It isn't the mountains ahead that wear you down. It's the pebble in your shoe."

Why we love it: People tend to be fixated on the large problems or goals in life. What Ali brilliantly suggests here is that everyday goals and challenges that affects people most, not the big-picture obstacles easiest to focus on.

6."The will must be stronger than the skill."

Why we love it: Ali was undoubtedly an incredible athlete who was uniquely talented. But it's also undeniable that no one believed in Ali more than he did himself. Seemingly willing himself to some victories, Ali owes part of record to his self-confidence -- beyond just his ability to move and punch.

5."Don't count the days. Make the days count."

Why we love it: Ali's Parkinson's diagnosis was not only his loss, but it also robbed us of one of the world's most colorful characters. It's hard to know how Ali was feeling in his final years, but it was clear that he didn't mind attending events and making appearances despite his condition. If those days didn't count for him, they certainly counted for those who will never forget the day they were graced with his presence.

4."The fight is won or lost far away from the witnesses, behind the lines, in the gym and out there on the road, long before I dance under those lights."

Why we love it: Ali was the ultimate showman. No one, even to this day, could captivate a crowd and fill the air with as much life as Ali did. So despite the show and his ability to perform when all are watching, it's a revelation that he so valued time spent working behind the scenes.

3."I am the greatest. I said that even before I knew I was. I figured that if I said it enough, I would convince the world that I was really the greatest."

Why we love it: Successful people often need to have the confidence that will be successful. Although this much seems obvious, such confidence and swagger is often disdained. That being said, Ali's assuredness here makes a lot of sense. Ultimate self-confidence is the first step to realizing a dream.

2."Float like a butterfly. Sting like a bee. You can't hit what your eyes don't see."

Why we love it: Ali's most famous quote deserves all the love it gets. He beautifully juxtaposed the rhythmic butterfly and dangerous bee to concisely capture his fighting style. The saying makes so much sense when watching Ali box. The big man danced around the ring with shocking grace, waiting for the right time for a stinging punch.

1."Impossible is just a word thrown around by small men who find it easier to live in the world they've been given than to explore the power they have to change it. Impossible is not a fact. It's an opinion. Impossible is potential. Impossible is temporary. Impossible is nothing."

Why we love it: This quote often is truncated to the last part "Impossible is nothing." But the rest means so much more. While many will immediately deem a goal impossible, for the right type of person, that doubt leads to untold motivation.

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...10-best-quotes

[Ghenghis Kahn]

What is it with Ali and pictures with Printz, the heroin addicted cross-dresser??

No comparison.

Champion VS ... a dead drug addict that dressed like a queer.

Ali had one skeleton (well publicized), that I am aware of...

Printz was one even when he was alive.

that queer you speak of had way more 10s that you could even dream of... prince was a legend pal.

[PittsburghPlayer]

which is why it is so ironic he died a muslim lol
His quote;
"I wish people would love everybody else the way that they love me."
-a converted muslim
now that is high brow comedy.

That man has more dignity, class, grace, intelligence --- dead --- than you and your ancestors combined will ever know.

[Bostongambler]

RIP. The Greatest.

[PittsburghPlayer]

that queer you speak of had way more 10s that you could even dream of... prince was a legend pal.

In a world of "anything goes", no argument from me !

[PittsburghPlayer]

RIP. The Greatest.

Nope, we are finding out, not perfect...

guess we have to hate him and his legacy now.

[Ghenghis Kahn]

In a world of "anything goes", no argument from me !

one advice from someone that actually has a clue... don't get fooled by the media. they will make you believe whatever they please, whether true or not. if you want to find the truth, you have to dig for it. i mean really dig for it which many in this world aren't willing to do.

[mikejamm]

Nope, we are finding out, not perfect...

guess we have to hate him and his legacy now.

You know, for a guy who's from Pittsburgh or obviously likes Pittsburgh teams, you are one condescending asshole! Ali's legacy will be honored and never forgotten. By the way, Prince was not gay or queer dip shit. That man got more high class pussy in his 20's,30's and 40's while you're probably still sticking your dick in the same smelly stench hole. Not to mention Prince accomplished more in his short life than you ever will, broke dick fuk Non Pro.

[PittsburghPlayer]

You know, for a guy who's from Pittsburgh or obviously likes Pittsburgh teams, you are one condescending asshole! Ali's legacy will be honored and never forgotten. By the way, Prince was not gay or queer dip shit. That man got more high class pussy in his 20's,30's and 40's while you're probably still sticking your dick in the same smelly stench hole. Not to mention Prince accomplished more in his short life than you ever will, broke dick fuk Non Pro.

and he had more money than me and dropped a lot of pills...

So then he (Printz) is/ oops, was a better man than you, me and everyone here.
I get it.
He wins, scored more pussy!

[PittsburghPlayer]

one advice from someone that actually has a clue... don't get fooled by the media. they will make you believe whatever they please, whether true or not. if you want to find the truth, you have to dig for it. i mean really dig for it which many in this world aren't willing to do.

I agree. and then draw ones own conclusion.
agree...
at least the words out of his mouth were true, peaceful.
Except a marriage vow or two.

[Ghenghis Kahn]

and he had more money than me and dropped a lot of pills...

So then he (Printz) is/ oops, was a better man than you, me and everyone here.
I get it.
He wins, scored more pussy!

lol if you got more pussy or had more money, you wouldn't be so bitter pal.

[PittsburghPlayer]

lol if you got more pussy or had more money, you wouldn't be so bitter pal.

I am considerably nicer in public!
Cash is not my concern...
have your sister (if she is thin) give me a call, thanks.

we should return the thread to the dedication that it was intended to be...

[Mikail]

when the majority of people who practice Islam treat women like dogs or support laws that treat women like dogs.

Nonsense.

[habitualwinning]

I gotta be perfectly honest. After reading through this thread I lost a lot of respect for Ali. It seems that he wasn't the great man that the media likes to hype him up as. People have pointed out a bunch of his flaws in this thread. It seems that the people who respect him and hype him up are generally older guys. A lot of the younger guys on her see the fraud for what he was. I never would've known any of that had I not read through this thread, so props to the guys calling him out.

[DiggityDaggityDo]

and he had more money than me and dropped a lot of pills...

So then he (Printz) is/ oops, was a better man than you, me and everyone here.
I get it.
He wins, scored more pussy!

Scoring more pussy always wins.

Always.

[Ghenghis Kahn]

for those that are saying ali dodged the draft. well, educate yourself before you start spewing nonsense... all the wars aren't for freedom. all the wars are for profit for the selected few.

[BuckyOne]

It didn't stop shit you dumb fuk, go read your history. Over 50,000+ young Americans lost their lives and South Vietnam still fell to the communist North. It was a colossal waste of life and for what...nothing! All because of dumb fuk'in political dick waging. Goes to show what happens when dumb fuk's are given power and control over our fighting forces. Are you listening brainwashed idiot Trump supporters?

Agreed - Well said. The people that were responsible for escalating the war took advantage of Patriotism that
made America great and used it for their own material gain.

Norman Schwartzkopf said he could have made a parking lot out of Baghdad. Maybe, if George Bush had owned a bulldozer company instead of oil wells that might have happened?

Viet Nam - Iraq were fought so stupidly. Maybe, we should vote on the type of military tactics used because the selections were either made by utter idiots or there were reasons for the incompetence.

[brooks85]

Muhammad Ali was as skilled with words as he was in the ring. His poignant sayings about sports and life figure to remain iconic for generations to come alongside the lore of his historic fights.
Today, in memory of the man who not only was the greatest but who also made sure to tell you he was, we rank his greatest quips.

10."I don't count the sit-ups. I only start counting when it starts hurting because they're the only ones that count. That's what makes you a champion."

Why we love it: Numbers aren't absolute. People have different bodies, are at different levels of training, have different pain thresholds. But, like many of Ali's sayings, the idea he is expressing makes a lot of sense, even when dismissing what the rest of the world sees as a benchmark.

9."Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer."

Why we love it: Although it's hard to think of many times when Ali was actually silent, a phrase like this has more impact coming from a guy who seemingly had a comeback for everything than it does from a person who is naturally quiet.

8."I wish people would love everybody else the way they love me. It would be a better world."

Why we love it: For much of Ali's career, he filled the air with the idea that the people around him didn't make him -- that he made himself. But that doesn't mean Ali didn't recognize how much people cared for him. He says as much here, relating to the age-old "athlete as a role model" dynamic and wishing people felt the same way about those around them.

7."It isn't the mountains ahead that wear you down. It's the pebble in your shoe."

Why we love it: People tend to be fixated on the large problems or goals in life. What Ali brilliantly suggests here is that everyday goals and challenges that affects people most, not the big-picture obstacles easiest to focus on.

6."The will must be stronger than the skill."

Why we love it: Ali was undoubtedly an incredible athlete who was uniquely talented. But it's also undeniable that no one believed in Ali more than he did himself. Seemingly willing himself to some victories, Ali owes part of record to his self-confidence -- beyond just his ability to move and punch.

5."Don't count the days. Make the days count."

Why we love it: Ali's Parkinson's diagnosis was not only his loss, but it also robbed us of one of the world's most colorful characters. It's hard to know how Ali was feeling in his final years, but it was clear that he didn't mind attending events and making appearances despite his condition. If those days didn't count for him, they certainly counted for those who will never forget the day they were graced with his presence.

4."The fight is won or lost far away from the witnesses, behind the lines, in the gym and out there on the road, long before I dance under those lights."

Why we love it: Ali was the ultimate showman. No one, even to this day, could captivate a crowd and fill the air with as much life as Ali did. So despite the show and his ability to perform when all are watching, it's a revelation that he so valued time spent working behind the scenes.

3."I am the greatest. I said that even before I knew I was. I figured that if I said it enough, I would convince the world that I was really the greatest."

Why we love it: Successful people often need to have the confidence that will be successful. Although this much seems obvious, such confidence and swagger is often disdained. That being said, Ali's assuredness here makes a lot of sense. Ultimate self-confidence is the first step to realizing a dream.

2."Float like a butterfly. Sting like a bee. You can't hit what your eyes don't see."

Why we love it: Ali's most famous quote deserves all the love it gets. He beautifully juxtaposed the rhythmic butterfly and dangerous bee to concisely capture his fighting style. The saying makes so much sense when watching Ali box. The big man danced around the ring with shocking grace, waiting for the right time for a stinging punch.

1."Impossible is just a word thrown around by small men who find it easier to live in the world they've been given than to explore the power they have to change it. Impossible is not a fact. It's an opinion. Impossible is potential. Impossible is temporary. Impossible is nothing."

Why we love it: This quote often is truncated to the last part "Impossible is nothing." But the rest means so much more. While many will immediately deem a goal impossible, for the right type of person, that doubt leads to untold motivation.

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...10-best-quotes

and my personal favorite that he learned from his brainwashing instructor;

in regards to the white man

"he is the devil"

-ali

[BuckyOne]

I want to make it clear that the military itself was not incompetent. They fought the way they were ordered to fight and fought with the weapons and ammunition they were issued. You can't go here and you cannot do this or that. Distrust in the government proliferated to the point that borders on unpatriotic. We depend on advisors to the president who lobby him constantly on how this or that looks & can be spun or is perceived by the public.