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  • captrobey
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 09-02-10
    • 34337

    #71
    Originally posted by Martinr
    Hang on. If the 5Dimes software was audited by "The Wizzard Of Odds Consulting. Inc" then it sounds like this is Shackleford's own consulting company, which could be a completely separate entity from The Wizard Of Odds website? If so, then maybe there is no conflict of interest in being paid to audit the software.
    To me, Shackleford comes across as someone who is devoted to the mathematics of gambling. I would have thought that it would be in our best interests to have someone like that, who would be unlikely to fudge the figures, to check out the integrity of the software.
    I know they can have it where they can have you win if they want or lose if they want. Normally of course you will lose. But if they are supposed to be audited by the Wizard if they know he is going to do it on a certain day they can change it to be fair . The only way to really know is to check it when they do not know it is coming.
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    • Martinr
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 07-08-13
      • 529

      #72
      ^ Completely agree.
      I just can't bring myself to trust these online casinos no matter which way they're certified or audited.
      I'd like to see the results of a series of hands (say 10k hands min) for random stakes, dealt to an account that suspects the casino in question of cheating (say your account captrobey), with the results examined by an independent statistician.
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      • INVEGA MAN
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 01-30-08
        • 6791

        #73
        You know you have a gambling problem when you play off shore machines.
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        • Tony Williams
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 06-16-14
          • 974

          #74
          won 7k once on sportsbetting.ag in blackjack

          by won, I mean I won it and proceeded to lose it all back in less than 12 hours and was beyond devastated

          as someone who does 0 hard drugs, I think I felt what it was like to be "cracked out"
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          • captrobey
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 09-02-10
            • 34337

            #75
            Originally posted by Martinr
            ^ Completely agree.
            I just can't bring myself to trust these online casinos no matter which way they're certified or audited.
            I'd like to see the results of a series of hands (say 10k hands min) for random stakes, dealt to an account that suspects the casino in question of cheating (say your account captrobey), with the results examined by an independent statistician.
            I have always looked at the amount the dealer gets 20 and 21 compared to me . It is always at least a 3-1 ratio . Even when i get lucky and win a little which is not often it still is the dealer getting more of them compared to me. I just happen to play against basic strategy and sometimes you get lucky.I get between 12-17 like it is going out of style. And the dealer gets a face card or an ace i would say 70 % of the times.
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            • Microphone
              SBR MVP
              • 01-08-08
              • 2950

              #76
              Originally posted by Martinr
              How do you know he was paid to audit the 5Dimes software?
              I don't, I have no proof. I'm just reading between the lines. What does Shackleford have to gain by auditing them?
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              • BigDaddy
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 02-01-06
                • 8378

                #77
                where is steaktartar and his crooked run casino

                lmfao!
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                • Microphone
                  SBR MVP
                  • 01-08-08
                  • 2950

                  #78
                  Did it again last night. Tried to round up to $2000 in my account playing roulette. Couldn't be happy with $1997. Unbelievable. Double the wager as the Titanic was going down, full knowing what the outcome would be. I'm an idiot.
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                  • captrobey
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 09-02-10
                    • 34337

                    #79
                    Originally posted by Microphone
                    Did it again last night. Tried to round up to $2000 in my account playing roulette. Couldn't be happy with $1997. Unbelievable. Double the wager as the Titanic was going down, full knowing what the outcome would be. I'm an idiot.
                    I know the feeling. In a normal Casino 99/100 times you would get it done but online you lose 99/100 .
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                    • captrobey
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 09-02-10
                      • 34337

                      #80
                      I had at GTbets $701 . I just lost it all starting $25 a hand and after i lost time after time i upped my bet . I lost $701 without winning a single hand. The same think happened earlier with the cash back you get on tuesday i worked it up to almost $400. Then i got a BJ on a $45 bet . But the screen froze and an error message came up. After i reconnected i lost every hand. The same thing happened here i worked it up and got this red error message . Later when i reconnected is when i lost every hand.
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                      • LordVodka
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 08-17-09
                        • 5206

                        #81
                        captrobey, is that the same casino where you won $17k?
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                        • captrobey
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 09-02-10
                          • 34337

                          #82
                          Originally posted by LordVodka
                          captrobey, is that the same casino where you won $17k?
                          YES . Earlier i used my cash back and got it up to $380 or so. Then i got the red error on the BJ which i never saw before . But the dealer did have an ace showing too. When i reconnected i lost every hand. Then later i deposited a little and had like $120 to play with. After awhile i edged it out to $701. The the red error came up again. I stopped because i had to go somewhere anyway. Then i reconnected when i got home and lost every hand.
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                          • LordVodka
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 08-17-09
                            • 5206

                            #83
                            Look you've gotta take this as a sign. You need to quit blackjack and realize that even if you won $100k you would keep playing and lose it all.

                            Captrobey, don't deposit anymore into that book.
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                            • captrobey
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 09-02-10
                              • 34337

                              #84
                              Originally posted by LordVodka
                              Look you've gotta take this as a sign. You need to quit blackjack and realize that even if you won $100k you would keep playing and lose it all.

                              Captrobey, don't deposit anymore into that book.
                              I did at least get $5000 before with them a few days ago.
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                              • captrobey
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 09-02-10
                                • 34337

                                #85
                                So i contacted GTbets. I wanted my hand history because i wanted to see the hands that came up after the error. They said they cannot do that i would have to take a screen shot if i felt there was something wrong. They did give me $150 credit which is gone already as the dealer got 21 after 21.
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                                • LordVodka
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 08-17-09
                                  • 5206

                                  #86
                                  The mobile version of BetDSI casino blackjack is absolute travesty. It's nothing but 21 and 20. You might win one in 10 hands. Complete bullshit.
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                                  • captrobey
                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                    • 09-02-10
                                    • 34337

                                    #87
                                    Originally posted by LordVodka
                                    The mobile version of BetDSI casino blackjack is absolute travesty. It's nothing but 21 and 20. You might win one in 10 hands. Complete bullshit.
                                    Despite how bad it has been at GTbets i have actually had some cash won. Not from great hands though . I noticed that the dealer if he was going to have say a 14 the face card would always show not the 4. So instead of hitting on a 12-16 i would stand and at times that would work. It is when the dealer does start to get nothing but 20 and 21 you have no chance.

                                    And even with this i still say DSI is the worst rigged out there. Does not shock me that the Mobile would be any better. It all gets me very angry and i want to kill people. So i have to picture a penetrating flower to calm down.

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                                    • LordVodka
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 08-17-09
                                      • 5206

                                      #88
                                      All online casinos need to address the phenomena of the dealer getting back to back 21s. This just doesn't happen as much in real life but online it's a constant thing.
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                                      • vividjohn45
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 11-21-10
                                        • 6331

                                        #89
                                        Originally posted by Capybara


                                        What's wrong with having a discussion?
                                        Nothing wrong. Carry on. Most online casinos you can win for awhile. Then book will change odds against you and will steal your money. Sports and poker only allowed. All my books have casino disabled. Only disable them. Do not ban yourself from casino. 1 of 2 options there. There was a story of a gambler in australia who signed paperwork to bar himself from casino. Went back to same casino and won $45000 dollars which casino would not pay him because legally they didnt have to. Usually a disable can be removed in three days so you can play in casino. To me though once disabled always disabled. Since i quit online casinos. I have stack of money for pussy. So whichever way you want empty wallet staring at a online casino table or empty wallet but got you some hottie trim. Make your money on sports wager or poker. Good luck
                                        Last edited by vividjohn45; 03-02-16, 04:48 PM.
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                                        • LordVodka
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 08-17-09
                                          • 5206

                                          #90
                                          BETDSI just slaughtered me. I put in my remaining balance on a sports wager for NBA. Let's see if it pays off. I would love to win enough to make BETDSI close shop.
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                                          • captrobey
                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                            • 09-02-10
                                            • 34337

                                            #91
                                            So i got a little cash back the other day not much like $18 or so. I put half of it down and ended up DDing. Of course this is just 1 hand but this is the crap that happens over and over there at GT bets. I also am putting that red error thing that came up and after that i lost every hand . This happened twice.



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                                            • captrobey
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 09-02-10
                                              • 34337

                                              #92
                                              Here is another one at BS GTbets . I started with $108 and got to almost $400 i needed $2 more. I was betting low to get there and it seemed to work. Then i started losing every bet. I was down to like $140 and just figured F it and went all in. At this point dealer is pulling face card after face card 20 almost every hand. Then as predicted this happens again on a big all in hand. The dealer got more 20s and 21s then me and at times i was again playing 3 hands and still losing.Total Rigged BS.

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                                              • captrobey
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 09-02-10
                                                • 34337

                                                #93
                                                And at GTbets i dont know if anyone else notices but there is a delay in getting dealt your cards at times if you take a hit. If you have say a 14 and dealer has a face card and you hit. If you hit and do not go over you get the card instantly. If it stalls you either go over which is most times or you will get the exact number (In this case a 7 if you have a 14) to get 21. Is it stalling because it is looking for a card to screw you or letting you have the rare 21? IDK but i is something i have noticed.
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                                                • Brian891
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 04-28-10
                                                  • 2049

                                                  #94
                                                  DSI and Bookmaker are the worst by far. And they dont try to hide it. The odds of some of the things happening there are astronomical. I have actually lost in carib there with 4 7's. dealer happened to get 4 8s on the exact same hand, and numerous three of a kinds beaten as well. Cards you are beaten with are always one number better. Same with blackjack or any other game. not bad enough that its rigged, you get taunted by them it seems. I had my casino deactivated when i realized the difference in winnings or losses each month directly correlated to how much idle time i spent in casino. Especially DSI. No solution to this prob except asking casino to block access.
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                                                  • LordVodka
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 08-17-09
                                                    • 5206

                                                    #95
                                                    All these software programs are extremely rigged and they all have cues.

                                                    In Heritage if you have a losing hand the animation is smooth and doesn't stutter. If you have a winning hand and you stand there is a stutter after you hit stand. If you're going to lose and you hit stand there is no stutter.

                                                    On most other blackjack games like the one SBR uses, if you hit and you're going to bust your cards jump slightly. It never fails.
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                                                    • Ra77er
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 06-20-11
                                                      • 10969

                                                      #96
                                                      Its a disease or something, I wish I had taken abilify or mirapex lol. Those things are streaky, sometimes you can hit it for a few but no one can stop you even if you turn 100 into 30,000 eventually its all coming back. They do seem to run highly suspect especially with max bet ranges but it won't ever come to light...even if it were proven somehow its not like your going to get anything back. Probably only way to ever beat it is GA.
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                                                      • king7811
                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                        • 08-19-16
                                                        • 147

                                                        #97
                                                        I don't know... I don't play in casino
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                                                        • CappinTerp
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 11-26-09
                                                          • 9650

                                                          #98
                                                          I play a lot at 5D, Live Roulette...and have done well.There have been times when I get really pissed off( for what ever reason) and put myself outside my comfort zone and bet more money than I should.....80% of the time I play my fav. number,which is#31. At times there does become a "hot number"................................. ........Don't see anything odd going on at live roulette, but be carfull,those $10 chips go away real fast,when cold,you turn around and your down $ 200-$300.!!! You see a guy named Homer and #31 come in it,s me.
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                                                          • Aronne
                                                            SBR Rookie
                                                            • 09-03-16
                                                            • 3

                                                            #99
                                                            I have a site that does real time blackjack. It's a web cam base with a live dealer. You also play with other players. The have blackjack, roulette, and others. It's pretty cool.
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                                                            • vegasridah
                                                              SBR Sharp
                                                              • 08-29-16
                                                              • 260

                                                              #100
                                                              absolutely 100% without question they are rigged and not just slightly. They are rigged severely against you and don't think for a second the "live casinos" online are any different. They are nothing more than rip offs.
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                                                              • Rockl
                                                                SBR Hustler
                                                                • 01-02-10
                                                                • 52

                                                                #101
                                                                Originally posted by vegasridah
                                                                absolutely 100% without question they are rigged and not just slightly. They are rigged severely against you and don't think for a second the "live casinos" online are any different. They are nothing more than rip offs.
                                                                All casinos are rigged. That is, rigged so that the house always wins over time - otherwise they would not exist. Live dealer casinos like GGL and VIG used by most of the big sports books are no more rigged than the MGM, Aria, or Mandalay Bay...
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                                                                • captrobey
                                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                  • 09-02-10
                                                                  • 34337

                                                                  #102
                                                                  Originally posted by Rockl
                                                                  All casinos are rigged. That is, rigged so that the house always wins over time - otherwise they would not exist. Live dealer casinos like GGL and VIG used by most of the big sports books are no more rigged than the MGM, Aria, or Mandalay Bay...
                                                                  AT a Live casino at a live table it absolutely will be different then playing online. If you play at the MGM at a live dealer you never see the runs anywhere near as constant as it is online. I almost always do well at a live casino. At a live casino if the hands happened like they do online or they got caught cheating there would be a revolution. The reason you do not see it live is because they do not want to risk getting caught in front of a full table of people . But online it is just you and there is NOTHING you can do when they continuously screw you. Who do you go to ? The best you can do is send them an e-mail or tell your story on here.
                                                                  Last edited by captrobey; 09-12-16, 12:22 PM.
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                                                                  • vividjohn45
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 11-21-10
                                                                    • 6331

                                                                    #103
                                                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                                                    Points ok but not real cash
                                                                    even betpoints have value in the long run. like all online casinos sbr csino is well deserving of disengagement. SBR are so very good at being everything a real online book is with the exception of a casino kill switch. lesson to be learned sbr.
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                                                                    • vividjohn45
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 11-21-10
                                                                      • 6331

                                                                      #104
                                                                      my advice is kill switch all online casinos. spend your gambling time. studying and watching the games and playing undistracted poker. ie, minimal sports
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                                                                      • BeatTheJerk
                                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                        • 08-19-07
                                                                        • 31794

                                                                        #105
                                                                        Only time I would ever use an online casino is when a book offers me a freeplay with a rollover from a deposit ...... My own money ???? No f u c k i n g way pal you're a dumb dick for this impulse & lack a very important thing that is needed in life in order to be successful. (Common sense)
                                                                        Last edited by BeatTheJerk; 09-13-16, 02:08 PM.
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