1. 08-23-15 10:46 AM #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasPlayer View Post
    No myth. See Randy Wolf, Fernando Rodney et al.
    There have been below average pitchers always. I have run the numbers, and the difference between the 33th and 67th percentile on qualifying pitchers have been about stable since 1950 (about 1.2 wins difference), even with more pitchers (55 on 1960, 92 on 2010). Furthermore, the WAR on the 67th percentile has also remained stable, at about 2.4. So, not much data to back the dilution theory.

    Year Pitchers WAR 33 WAR 67
    2010 92 3.7 2.4
    2000 87 3.5 2.1
    1990 75 3.4 2.4
    1980 89 3.4 2.4
    1970 79 3.7 2.4
    1960 55 3.3 2.3
    1950 61 3.6 2.6
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  2. 08-23-15 11:24 AM #37
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    When you have 32 teams and 162 games a year the pitching talent is watered down. You also have 32 football, basketball, hockey and even soccer teams now so kids choose other sports than lets say 80 years ago when baseball was the elite sport and was getting the elite athletes/pitchers.
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  3. 08-23-15 11:29 AM #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    When you have 32 teams and 162 games a year the pitching talent is watered down. You also have 32 football, basketball, hockey and even soccer teams now so kids choose other sports than lets say 80 years ago when baseball was the elite sport and was getting the elite athletes/pitchers.

    Not to mention Dad and "Coach" teaching 7-8 year olds to throw breaking balls and kids pitching/playing year round. Lot's of burned out pitchers in their low 20's. Heard Bob Brenly mention just the other night some organizations are considering having their young arms get TJ before they start working them through their systems.
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  4. 08-23-15 01:23 PM #39
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    Pitching is ok..scores for the most part low

    Its all the breaks that have to change and every batter taking forever to get ready between each pitch
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  5. 08-23-15 01:29 PM #40
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    People like action, baseball a killer for that. There is no long break/ht like other sports even though they have tried with the 5 inning bets and some in play options. Game is awesome live but probably destroys action junkies. I do miss the roid days I hate to say that but the hitters were much more entertaining. Archer still number 1 for me but I would have loved to see him try to navigate that Oakland A's team back in the day...probably 10-0 2nd inning
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  6. 08-23-15 02:06 PM #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by Microphone View Post
    I'm afraid there are phone zombies everywhere, not just MLB games.
    Shit is strange right? I was Disneyland last week kids in the attractions are on their phones ....I think they wouldn't know what to do with themselves if you took their iPhones away it's not like they play outside.
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  7. 08-23-15 02:10 PM #42
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    Let's be honest these players can't hit half of these rosters are batting under .250 ....some more than half I had a thread asking who was the worst hitting team in baseball and like 14 different teams got mentioned....bring steroids back baseball was exciting then who cares if they juice this isn't combat sports they're not hurting anybody but themselves.
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  8. 08-23-15 02:51 PM #43
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    Average game is 2:54.

    Nfl is 3:12 for a 60 minute game

    Nhl is 2:20 for a 60 minute game

    Nba is 2:30 for a 60 minute game.
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  9. 08-24-15 10:29 PM #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Average game is 2:54.

    Nfl is 3:12 for a 60 minute game

    Nhl is 2:20 for a 60 minute game

    Nba is 2:30 for a 60 minute game.
    good stats. How long are the College Football games that start at 3:30pm on CBS? It seems like they last 5 hours?
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  10. 08-24-15 10:41 PM #45
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    surprising..they seem forever I guess because most boring sport in world

    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Average game is 2:54.

    Nfl is 3:12 for a 60 minute game

    Nhl is 2:20 for a 60 minute game

    Nba is 2:30 for a 60 minute game.
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  11. 08-24-15 10:47 PM #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    surprising..they seem forever I guess because most boring sport in world
    what is your favorite sport to watch? Mine is NFL football but I enjoy all sports and all seasons. (Except Basketball) I hate basketball, the squeaking of the shoes is like nails on a chalk board and makes me cringe + I don't enjoy seeing half naked men sweating all over each other and flopping.
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  12. 08-25-15 09:16 AM #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juuuce Man View Post
    what is your favorite sport to watch? Mine is NFL football but I enjoy all sports and all seasons. (Except Basketball) I hate basketball, the squeaking of the shoes is like nails on a chalk board and makes me cringe + I don't enjoy seeing half naked men sweating all over each other and flopping.
    Didn't watch a complete game college or pro all season. 30-45 minutes to play last 5 minutes is what kills me. No defense. And talk about diluted talent.
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  13. 05-15-16 01:31 PM #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    How much time is the best JJ? 2 hrs?
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  14. 05-15-16 01:53 PM #49
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    2 hrs like soccer

    baseball a bad product to watch
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    That's like 13 min per inning.

    6.5 minutes per 1/2 inning.

    How many pitches a pitcher can throw in 6.5 minutes to get 3 outs?

    That's too fast.

    Are you concerned about injuries?
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  16. 05-15-16 02:07 PM #51
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    nba is the worst
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  17. 10-15-16 05:21 PM #52
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    It was close throughout and ended with Clayton Kershaw, baseball’s best starter, getting the final two outs to save L.A.’s 4-3 victory. Even with that twist, it felt more like watching the last nail in the coffin for baseball with sports fans under 55 than an unforgettable moment.

    The game time for nine innings was 4 hours, 32 minutes. Washington manager Dusty Baker, always suspect with a bullpen, used six pitchers in a seventh inning that took 1 hour, 6 minutes.

    Me, lover of baseball, started watching hunks of the Wild sleepwalking through a 3-2, season-opening loss in St. Louis … the pace at Nationals Park was so disgusting.

    The Cubs will make the TV ratings look OK. Once they win the World Series, that angle will be over, and baseball will return to being unwatchable for generations raised with tablets, video games and maybe color television.

    Nine innings, 4:32. Yup, now the Grand Old Game is trying to lose me.

    It was so bad that I turned to hockey on Thursday, and that’s extra bad.

    http://www.startribune.com/baseball-...source=dlvr.it
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  18. 10-15-16 05:32 PM #53
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    What's the average game when Jeremy Helickson pitches?
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    Try watching cricket
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  20. 10-15-16 07:15 PM #55
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    That jays Cleveland game unless your a baseball purist or fan of the 2 teams you will not want to watch that snooze fest problem and vin skully nailed it was the amount of pitchers in a game and the fact a starter goes 6 innings unless there ace what a joke
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  21. 10-15-16 07:27 PM #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    Try watching cricket
    What channel?
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  22. 10-15-16 07:59 PM #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    Try watching cricket
    I love cricket. Start the match. Drink a 40 ounce bottle of scotch. Eat a shit load of food. Go to bed. Wake up and take 3 shits. Have a coffee. Cap the day games. Check in and the game is still on.
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  23. 10-15-16 08:00 PM #58
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    4:32 for 9 innings. Greg Maddux could have pitched 3 games in that time span.
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    It's terrible that's why everybody's watching soccer now
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    I could watch baseball morning, noon, and night. Cribbage not so much.
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  26. 10-16-16 02:49 PM #61
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    As we move into the future, Major League Baseball figures to implement more and more rules aimed at speeding up the game. Until that’s accomplished though, Los Angeles Dodgers reliever Pedro Baez is just going to keep chillin’ on the hill. Because let’s be honest, he’s got nowhere else to go, and he’s not being paid by the time he saves. So what’s the harm, right?

    Right.

    Well, unless you’re an impatient viewer, which seems to cover a wide range of baseball fans and writers, or bored, in which case a pitcher who needs an average of 30.2 seconds between pitches — the slowest pace in MLB — is probably a detriment to the game.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/pedro-b...160855822.html
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  27. 10-16-16 03:05 PM #62
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    Start betting f5 and then they don't stress you as long.
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  28. 10-16-16 04:36 PM #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by icecapper View Post
    Went to a game yesterday and three little kids in front of me were on their phones the entire game. Big problem.
    Live betting
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