Mark Cuban's take on the Republican party

**jjgold** · 08-12-15, 07:51 AM

He thinks he is mr know it all

He is a well know jerk and carries ZERO WEIGHT

**Mr KLC** · 08-12-15, 08:07 AM

The thing is that I knew what the Republican party stood for 30 years ago. Today, it seems like the only thing they stand for is their own survival. Their talk about conservative principles rarely parallels their actions anymore. Look at everything they said they were going to do when they took the Senate back, and now see how wimpish they are in power. It never crosses their mind that maybe their constituents voted them in because they want a different direction than what this administration is taking them. It's the same crap lines the Democrats have been regurgitating to the blacks and poor for over 50 years. Blacks are more unemployed than ever, and the poverty rate remains unchanged.

That's why Trump is so intriguing. He's a throwback to the way our government was originally supposed to be. Our government was not meant to have career politicians. People would voluntarily leave the private sector to donate their time and lead us until they served their 1 or 2 terms. Once the time was up, they would go back to their private lives, and pass it off to the next man up. How's that old saying go? Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. What do we do when they fool us 5-6 times?

**grease lightnin** · 08-12-15, 08:28 AM

Cuban for President

**hawkwind** · 08-12-15, 08:32 AM

Originally posted by grease lightnin

Cuban for President

You need to be an American Citizen as one of the requirements

**rkelly110** · 08-12-15, 09:20 AM

Originally posted by Mr KLC

The thing is that I knew what the Republican party stood for 30 years ago. Today, it seems like the only thing they stand for is their own survival. Their talk about conservative principles rarely parallels their actions anymore. Look at everything they said they were going to do when they took the Senate back, and now see how wimpish they are in power. It never crosses their mind that maybe their constituents voted them in because they want a different direction than what this administration is taking them. It's the same crap lines the Democrats have been regurgitating to the blacks and poor for over 50 years. Blacks are more unemployed than ever, and the poverty rate remains unchanged.

That's why Trump is so intriguing. He's a throwback to the way our government was originally supposed to be. Our government was not meant to have career politicians. People would voluntarily leave the private sector to donate their time and lead us until they served their 1 or 2 terms. Once the time was up, they would go back to their private lives, and pass it off to the next man up. How's that old saying go? Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. What do we do when they fool us 5-6 times?

Yes, back in the day, both parties pretty much worked together for the common cause of America. Since Obama has
come in, a new party called the Tea party has come in, citizens united among other conservative organizations, all
of which has broken the Repub party into factions.

I don't want people we have elected to sign pledges, most of which is why good legislation hasn't been brought
up for votes. It has carried to both sides. The house will pass bills to send to the senate, but won't vote on it
because the house refused to vote on senate bills. Baby games. Who suffers? We do.

You guys get mad because Obama has to make executive orders, why is that? 500+ little kids are playing
kindergarten games. Someone has to be the adult.

My Senate Representative Pat Toomey, wrote a bill for term limits and probably went over like a lead balloon.
Someone elected, who's already in, sure as hell isn't going to sign their own death sentence. Somehow, we
need to push that agenda.

**brooks85** · 08-12-15, 09:31 AM

common rkelly, just reads headlines. Remember when you used to post House bills that you didn't even understand? This is no different.

Quotes from Cuban in the article that I'm sure caused rkelly's psyche panicked and ignored.

"I would prefer to be a Republican. I want smaller government. I want smarter government. Just like most Republicans...

...And btw, I know a lot of the same can be said about the democrats, but I don’t want to be a democrat.

...Until things change, I’ll sit in the middle and think for myself. Unlike the Republicans."

I highlighted the bold part specifically for you rkelly, maybe one day before you leave this Earth you'll be able to think for yourself. I doubt it but at least you can clearly see why you should keep your thoughts to yourself, spreading wrong information is harmful and you do it frequently. We both can agree on that, this thread any clear example.

**Mr KLC** · 08-12-15, 09:35 AM

Originally posted by rkelly110

Yes, back in the day, both parties pretty much worked together for the common cause of America. Since Obama has
come in, a new party called the Tea party has come in, citizens united among other conservative organizations, all
of which has broken the Repub party into factions.

I don't want people we have elected to sign pledges, most of which is why good legislation hasn't been brought
up for votes. It has carried to both sides. The house will pass bills to send to the senate, but won't vote on it
because the house refused to vote on senate bills. Baby games. Who suffers? We do.

You guys get mad because Obama has to make executive orders, why is that? 500+ little kids are playing
kindergarten games. Someone has to be the adult.

My Senate Representative Pat Toomey, wrote a bill for term limits and probably went over like a lead balloon.
Someone elected, who's already in, sure as hell isn't going to sign their own death sentence. Somehow, we
need to push that agenda.

I've been saying the main problem for years has been term limits, but a bigger problem is the voters. They continually vote these same blowhards in election after election, and then have the gall to bitch about them. We do not have enough participation in the primaries to take these guys out, and put fresh faces in the general elections.

Here in Tennessee, they had same old, same old Lamar Alexander running for his 3rd term. We had an excellent conservative, Joe Carr, running against him. Carr might not personify the values of other states, but he would have represented a state like Tennessee well. Lamar already had a war chest built. All he had to do was go on his commercials, and practically say, "Hey it's me!" then spout the word "conservative", and he retained the Republican nomination (though I'm sure it was a lot closer than he expected it to be). He even had Fred Thompson, an advocate for term limits in the 90's, do a commercial backing him. I didn't even vote for him in the general. Just skipped that section when I was voting for everything else on the ballot. The same thing will probably happen when Bob Corker's turn comes around.

Voters need to understand that the longer you keep these guys and gals in office, the more their interests push to their personal selves, and away from the people that elected them in the first place.

**ByeShea** · 08-12-15, 09:43 AM

**jjgold** · 08-12-15, 09:44 AM

all politicians motivation is for themselves, friends and family

They can care less about voters

when will you get it???

**grease lightnin** · 08-12-15, 09:44 AM

Originally posted by hawkwind

You need to be an American Citizen as one of the requirements

Mark Cuban is from Pittsburgh, homeboy

**Delicious** · 08-12-15, 09:49 AM

Saloon this shit....

**grease lightnin** · 08-12-15, 09:52 AM

I highlighted the bold part specifically for you rkelly, maybe one day before you leave this Earth you'll be able to think for yourself.

In my estimation rkelly is one of the few individual thinkers i have seen on this board. He has displayed opinions across a broader spectrum of the prevailing political ideologies than most.

**ByeShea** · 08-12-15, 09:54 AM

Originally posted by Delicious

Saloon this shit....

Saloon you

**RudyRuetigger** · 08-12-15, 09:57 AM

problem is the govt is made up mostly of lawyers..the people trying to suck money out of everyone

we need doctors, businessmen, fukkin top of the line historians, computer geniuses, etc etc

get the fukkin lawyers out

**Mr KLC** · 08-12-15, 10:28 AM

Originally posted by RudyRuetigger

problem is the govt is made up mostly of lawyers..the people trying to suck money out of everyone

we need doctors, businessmen, fukkin top of the line historians, computer geniuses, etc etc

get the fukkin lawyers out

**rkelly110** · 08-12-15, 12:43 PM

Originally posted by grease lightnin

In my estimation rkelly is one of the few individual thinkers i have seen on this board. He has displayed opinions across a broader spectrum of the prevailing political ideologies than most.

Thank you Grease, I'm glad someone is paying attention.

**DwightShrute** · 08-12-15, 12:48 PM

Originally posted by rkelly110

Thank you Grease, I'm glad someone is paying attention.

pretty sure he was being sarcastic

**brooks85** · 08-12-15, 03:02 PM

Originally posted by grease lightnin

In my estimation rkelly is one of the few individual thinkers i have seen on this board. He has displayed opinions across a broader spectrum of the prevailing political ideologies than most.

I guess this thread is just one the time he slipped...

**Snowball** · 08-12-15, 03:32 PM

Cuban is a pump and dump
made his millions by intentionally lying then dumping
during the dot com scam.

Meanwhile, Trump wants to name Carl Icahn into his cabinet !

Icahn made his billions as a client of scam artist Michael Milken, who went to
Fed prison 10 year sentence and paid 600mil fine back when 600m
was a lot of money.

Corporate Junk Bonds... another pump and dump.
then Icahn would take over the companies and put everyone in the streets.
Real class act.

**grease lightnin** · 08-12-15, 04:16 PM

Originally posted by Snowball

Cuban is a pump and dump
made his millions by intentionally lying then dumping
during the dot com scam.

Do you have a source on this? I have never heard that and I tried to find something on it but was unable.

**MoMoneyMoVaughn** · 08-12-15, 04:18 PM

Warren Buffet for President.

**Ra77er** · 08-12-15, 04:27 PM

Okay well I agree with Cuban 100%. That is one smart shark if I ever saw one. I hope his statements resonate with the republican party because he is absolutely right. Listened to the after show comments (Hannity) last night on Fox and some of the people that get paid to speak on there are atrocious.

**Snowball** · 08-12-15, 04:40 PM

Originally posted by grease lightnin

Do you have a source on this? I have never heard that and I tried to find something on it but was unable.

I remember him. He was an AudioNet executive, they changed their name to Broadcast.com and right at the
wildest time of the internet madness they IPO'd and went up tons. Cuban pumped them up like crazy.
Yahoo used their own inflated stock to overpay for Broadcast.com - making Cuban just about a billionaire
on Yahoo stock. He hung on as much as he had to according to the law but weaseled out right before the
dot com crash. He also did some hedging but couldn't hedge against Yahoo so hedged other internet momo stocks.
Lost his hedge 100% and sold all the Yahoo stock near the top - then everyone holding those stocks got hammered.
Years later on some other issue he was charged criminally for insider trading.

**jjgold** · 08-12-15, 04:44 PM

Originally posted by Snowball

Cuban is a pump and dump
made his millions by intentionally lying then dumping
during the dot com scam.

Meanwhile, Trump wants to name Carl Icahn into his cabinet !

Icahn made his billions as a client of scam artist Michael Milken, who went to
Fed prison 10 year sentence and paid 600mil fine back when 600m
was a lot of money.

Corporate Junk Bonds... another pump and dump.
then Icahn would take over the companies and put everyone in the streets.
Real class act.

1000% scammer

**Ra77er** · 08-12-15, 04:50 PM

So how he made his money makes his comments irrelevant?

It's true what he is saying about the republican party, it's why they don't like Trump. He doesn't conform to the norm. All the political junkies are clamoring to hear every little detail about his policy so they can over analyze it death and start some ridiculous campaign to discredit him.

The sad thing is he probably won't get the nomination regardless if the people are calling for him to get it, as evidenced in the polls!! We will get another 8 years of some greased pocket half wit.

**grease lightnin** · 08-12-15, 08:24 PM

Originally posted by Snowball

I remember him. He was an AudioNet executive, they changed their name to Broadcast.com and right at the
wildest time of the internet madness they IPO'd and went up tons. Cuban pumped them up like crazy.
Yahoo used their own inflated stock to overpay for Broadcast.com - making Cuban just about a billionaire
on Yahoo stock. He hung on as much as he had to according to the law but weaseled out right before the
dot com crash. He also did some hedging but couldn't hedge against Yahoo so hedged other internet momo stocks.
Lost his hedge 100% and sold all the Yahoo stock near the top - then everyone holding those stocks got hammered.
Years later on some other issue he was charged criminally for insider trading.

You said he lied--And he did structure a collar in Yahoo stock to lock in his profit. Then when he sold it, he put it all in treasuries right before greenspan lowered interest rates, treasuries soared in the next few years. Just a couple of years ago, he refinanced ~$400 million of debt in the yen right before the BOJ started buying bonds and stocks-- the yen devauled bigtime in months, then he paid it off in dollars. Basically cut the debt in half. He is a master of gaming the system. It doesn't make him a liar. And he was cleared of insider trading.

**Waterstpub87** · 08-12-15, 10:21 PM

Rkelly is good people.

Didnt Mark Cuban say that he would be Donald Trump's Vice President?

The Republicans' need to sign pledges is the worst idea in government. I would have taken the $10 worth of cuts for a 1$ of tax increase all day.

**lakerboy** · 08-12-15, 10:29 PM

Originally posted by DwightShrute

pretty sure he was being sarcastic

honestly i think you look like your avatar

**DwightShrute** · 08-12-15, 10:39 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

honestly i think you look like your avatar

ditto

**INVEGA MAN** · 08-12-15, 10:47 PM

Cuban is right on calling trump a paper tiger. he has no cash. that will doom him because people not donating to him because he says hes a billionaire

**DwightShrute** · 08-12-15, 10:52 PM

Trump is doing well. He makes hundreds of millions a year. He doesn't need to run for president. He is doing so because he loves his country and can see how these politicians are fukking it up. The US needs to be run more like a business rather than how its being run to the ground.

**texhooper** · 08-12-15, 11:56 PM

Originally posted by DwightShrute

Trump is doing well. He makes hundreds of millions a year. He doesn't need to run for president. He is doing so because he loves his country and can see how these politicians are fukking it up. The US needs to be run more like a business rather than how its being run to the ground.

he's running for president because of power and ego. it's the same reason a coach who has a kushy college job would take an nfl job. you don't think he sits awake at night jerking off to the thought of being called "president trump" instead of "mr. trump?" that's the number 1 reason he's trying to be president. then well after that, perhaps all the things you say are a distant second.

**Snowball** · 08-13-15, 07:35 AM

Originally posted by grease lightnin

You said he lied--And he did structure a collar in Yahoo stock to lock in his profit. Then when he sold it, he put it all in treasuries right before greenspan lowered interest rates, treasuries soared in the next few years. Just a couple of years ago, he refinanced ~$400 million of debt in the yen right before the BOJ started buying bonds and stocks-- the yen devauled bigtime in months, then he paid it off in dollars. Basically cut the debt in half. He is a master of gaming the system. It doesn't make him a liar. And he was cleared of insider trading.

He's not as bad as Icahn, but whether or not he was a liar is a judgement call.
He did insider trade, but got away with it because he spent millions on lawyers
who did a good job defending him. I remember him in the 90's as a brash pumper
with a temper and a talent for getting people excited when I'm sure all he was thinking
of was dumping his stock on the gullible.
Maybe pump and dump is not lying, but I don't think he's in any position to criticize
other people because the origin of his wealth is only in luck and pump/dump.
The primary way he made his money was by exaggerating the value of Broadcast.com,
which at the time of sale only had 22 million in revenues and was losing 16 million a year,
but Yahoo bought them in stock for 5.7 billion. Of course he knew it all was baloney,
all the times he talked up his Broadcast.com, and tried to get people to buy it was
nothing but a ploy to write stock and dump it on the public.
Yahoo stock lost 90% of its value in the dot com crash.

**rkelly110** · 08-13-15, 07:44 AM

Originally posted by texhooper

he's running for president because of power and ego. it's the same reason a coach who has a kushy college job would take an nfl job. you don't think he sits awake at night jerking off to the thought of being called "president trump" instead of "mr. trump?" that's the number 1 reason he's trying to be president. then well after that, perhaps all the things you say are a distant second.

That's what I see also. He's done his homework on how the American people feel and is exploiting that.
Now he needs to come up with plans on how to make happen the shit he's spewing. (if he can)