My Bookie robbed me of $8K

**2Sweeet** · 2025-07-16T19:15:35+00:00

Some places paid some didin't. I personally think it should be a Push. I don't think most books were aware this was going to happen if the game was tied.

**Chiefs83** · 2025-07-16T20:17:56+00:00

I had the All star game at about 8 diff books, pre & live i bet. All my wagers were graded. Would of loved the bets to be Voided as my biggest play was NL -1.5

What other books Voided

**Farm_Life** · 2025-07-16T20:23:50+00:00

Originally posted by 2Sweeet

Some places paid some didin't. I personally think it should be a Push. I don't think most books were aware this was going to happen if the game was tied.

So a book should randomly void a bet that’s tied after 9inn after they specifically confirm they won’t void it in parentheses?

**stevenash** · 2025-07-16T20:29:56+00:00

I had the AL runline; it was graded a no-action push.
I'm fine with that decision.

**Optional** · 2025-07-16T20:49:34+00:00

If the market says (inc extra innings) as shown in the screenshot, how can there be any argument that it should be graded a winner?

What am I missing?

**Farm_Life** · 2025-07-16T21:01:46+00:00

Originally posted by Optional

If the market says (inc extra innings) as shown in the screenshot, how can there be any argument that it should be graded a winner?

What am I missing?

Thank you for the response!

If there was zero language on the slip, I would still consider it pretty goofy to grade it no action unless specified ties after 9 are void. But to have it say it includes extra innings and then have it cancelled just smells to high heaven. Especially after them grading it a win originally for an hour or two.

All I wanted from the supervisor is give me one scenario where (incl. extra innings) comes into play.

**Optional** · 2025-07-16T21:16:41+00:00

Originally posted by Farm_Life

Thank you for the response!

If there was zero language on the slip, I would still consider it pretty goofy to grade it no action unless specified ties after 9 are void. But to have it say it includes extra innings and then have it cancelled just smells to high heaven. Especially after them grading it a win originally for an hour or two.

All I wanted from the supervisor is give me one scenario where (incl. extra innings) comes into play.

It might be worth using email instead of live chat and ask if it can be escalated to a supervisor to double check. I'm not sure how any manager who knows how betting works could argue with you.

**pavyracer** · 2025-07-16T21:23:38+00:00

Originally posted by Farm_Life

Thank you for the response!

If there was zero language on the slip, I would still consider it pretty goofy to grade it no action unless specified ties after 9 are void. But to have it say it includes extra innings and then have it cancelled just smells to high heaven. Especially after them grading it a win originally for an hour or two.

All I wanted from the supervisor is give me one scenario where (incl. extra innings) comes into play.

Try to find out how they graded the AL win bets. Because if they graded yours as push and the AL wins as loss it's very concerning.

**unde0087** · 2025-07-16T23:17:19+00:00

Originally posted by 2Sweeet

Some places paid some didin't. I personally think it should be a Push. I don't think most books were aware this was going to happen if the game was tied.

Have to agree with you on this one. It seems this book wasn't even aware the MLB was implementing new rules for just this game, which is pretty mickey mouse if you ask me. I will say a push after how that game went down would be a satisfactory conclusion to me. A home run derby to declare winner was a coin toss at best. I don't really understand how someone fires off several thousand dollar bet on a glorified exhibition game to begin with but to each their own.
Since the book can probably just claim they weren't aware of rule changes they can pretty much grade however they see fit. The only way you win this is having a screenshot of prior rules they had posted on extra innings scenario.
I know one thing. If this was me and the book doesn't give me a satisfactory answer or conclusion to this situation, A) remaining balance would be withdrawn that day B) would never get a single bet from me ever again

**Optional** · 2025-07-17T00:46:59+00:00

Originally posted by unde0087

Have to agree with you on this one. It seems this book wasn't even aware the MLB was implementing new rules for just this game, which is pretty mickey mouse if you ask me. I will say a push after how that game went down would be a satisfactory conclusion to me. A home run derby to declare winner was a coin toss at best. I don't really understand how someone fires off several thousand dollar bet on a glorified exhibition game to begin with but to each their own.
Since the book can probably just claim they weren't aware of rule changes they can pretty much grade however they see fit. The only way you win this is having a screenshot of prior rules they had posted on extra innings scenario.
I know one thing. If this was me and the book doesn't give me a satisfactory answer or conclusion to this situation, A) remaining balance would be withdrawn that day B) would never get a single bet from me ever again

Someone please explain to me what I have wrong to think stating (extra innings included) on the market offering is in any way ambiguous for the purposes of grading?

I admit baseball is my weakest sport knowledge and I often ask for a second opinion when it comes to baseball grading disputes. But I am confused as hell as to why so many regulars think the book may be correct here.

C'mon someone, help me out and explain why like its Baseball Betting For Dummies.

**unde0087** · 2025-07-17T01:57:39+00:00

Originally posted by Optional

Someone please explain to me what I have wrong to think stating (extra innings included) on the market offering is in any way ambiguous for the purposes of grading?

I admit baseball is my weakest sport knowledge and I often ask for a second opinion when it comes to baseball grading disputes. But I am confused as hell as to why so many regulars think the book may be correct here.

C'mon someone, help me out and explain why like its Baseball Betting For Dummies.

There isn't much to explain. A typical baseball game would have extra innings until someone wins. The weird thing about the All Star game this year was they implemented this new system. I am guessing because people didn't want to see a tie anymore. I don't disagree that since they had the homerun derby to see who won that technically that should give this guy a win. On the other hand it isn't how any other baseball game would be decided so I can see where the books, especially if they weren't aware of this, would just grade it as a tie. No one actually scored a run to win the game, like you would see in any other baseball game. This is why you don't fire off a big wager on games like this where it is an exhibition game and the rules are different. It obviously became a shit show grading. I would assume books will have a different take next time around so they don't get caught with their pants down again. The guy should have a win but I can see where books will try to use this one weird occurrence as a scapegoat.

**Optional** · 2025-07-17T08:57:14+00:00

Originally posted by unde0087

There isn't much to explain. A typical baseball game would have extra innings until someone wins. The weird thing about the All Star game this year was they implemented this new system. I am guessing because people didn't want to see a tie anymore. I don't disagree that since they had the homerun derby to see who won that technically that should give this guy a win. On the other hand it isn't how any other baseball game would be decided so I can see where the books, especially if they weren't aware of this, would just grade it as a tie. No one actually scored a run to win the game, like you would see in any other baseball game. This is why you don't fire off a big wager on games like this where it is an exhibition game and the rules are different. It obviously became a shit show grading. I would assume books will have a different take next time around so they don't get caught with their pants down again. The guy should have a win but I can see where books will try to use this one weird occurrence as a scapegoat.

Thanks Unde. Appreciate you helping me understand the situation better.

**ProSportsEdge** · 2025-07-17T10:18:02+00:00

Originally posted by 2Sweeet

Some places paid some didin't. I personally think it should be a Push. I don't think most books were aware this was going to happen if the game was tied.

yeah i agree, felt like a surprise twist no one saw coming most books seemed just as confused as the rest of us.

**Optional** · 2025-07-17T11:48:46+00:00

If I was advocating for this guy I would still be arguing that an official result was declared and the bet slip clearly shows that the odds were offered with a result required, even if extra innings are needed. Any sort of shoot out or tie break decider the league chooses meets the intent of that bet offering. It's disingenuous to say a home run derby as the extra innings either changes the bet odds or causes any palpable confusion for bettors.

**Chiefs83** · 2025-07-17T12:51:48+00:00

Please list ALL books that Voided this bet, trying to recoup some money if the book graded there results as a Void & a Loss

Did anyone have the run line Voided, & at which bookie???

**pavyracer** · 2025-07-17T13:25:34+00:00

What they needed to do is have different rules for this game as it was just a single game. Like in the parenthesis (incl. extra innings) should have said (all bets voided if tie after 9 innings). But maybe this was done intentionally to refund winners and collect from losers. This is what needs to be investigated and if true avoid this book at all costs.

**2Sweeet** · 2025-07-17T20:06:50+00:00

I had one book BetmGM grade it as a push I had another Book Bet105 grade it as a loss I had AL.

**2Sweeet** · 2025-07-17T20:07:56+00:00

I no FD and DK graded it as a winner or a loser from ppl I no.

**Chiefs83** · 2025-07-17T20:39:03+00:00

BallyBet graded my NL wager Run Line wager -1.5 a loss
BetRivers graded my Live bet AL +2.5 a winner