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  • DwightShrute
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 01-17-09
    • 102500

    #1
    Tush Push bye bye
    The tush push of the #Eagles will likely be banned today per the Athletic

  • johnnyvegas13
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 05-21-15
    • 27845

    #2
    Agree w this
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    • Getch13
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 07-13-18
      • 6860

      #3
      Not today boys. It's still in play. Meetings have ended, not enough votes to carry.
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      • ChuckyTheGoat
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 04-04-11
        • 36863

        #4
        It actually should be dis-allowed:

        1) It's not in the spirit of the game.
        2) Wait until you have a Def Tackle paralyzed. If they're handling the weight of four guys, one of these DTs is going to get laid out in a big way.
        Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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        • stevenash
          Moderator
          • 01-17-11
          • 65267

          #5
          Originally posted by Getch13
          Not today boys. It's still in play. Meetings have ended, not enough votes to carry.
          Yeah, two votes short of banning 'the push'.

          I never liked the push to begin with.

          If leapfrogging over a lineman to block a place kick is a penalty, then the 'push' should also be penalized.
          It's the same damn principle.

          Most of these RBs like Barkley, JT, CMC, Derrick Henry, and others are built like Peterbilts, do they really need a push from behind?
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          • ChuckyTheGoat
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 04-04-11
            • 36863

            #6
            Originally posted by stevenash

            Yeah, two votes short of banning 'the push'.

            I never liked the push to begin with.

            If leapfrogging over a lineman to block a place kick is a penalty, then the 'push' should also be penalized.
            It's the same damn principle.

            Most of these RBs like Barkley, JT, CMC, Derrick Henry, and others are built like Peterbilts, do they really need a push from behind?
            Aiding a runner used to be a penalty. That was a rule for a long time. Should not be allowed.
            Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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            • homie1975
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 12-24-13
              • 15450

              #7
              Dwighter stick to politics

              Your sports jacket is flapping in the wind
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              • ByeShea
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 06-30-08
                • 8057

                #8
                Originally posted by stevenash

                Yeah, two votes short of banning 'the push'.

                I never liked the push to begin with.
                20 years ago pushing a ball carrier was a penalty. And NOBODY had an issue with the rule.

                If anything the game should be evolving away from rugby, not towards it.

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                • brock
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 01-07-08
                  • 8098

                  #9
                  Hurts fantasy football play still in tacked.
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                  • johnnyvegas13
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 05-21-15
                    • 27845

                    #10
                    Originally posted by brock
                    Hurts fantasy football play still in tacked.
                    So is eagles Super Bowl repeat
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                    • DwightShrute
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 01-17-09
                      • 102500

                      #11
                      Originally posted by DwightShrute
                      The tush push of the #Eagles will likely be banned today per the Athletic

                      The Athletic is full of shit!

                      It was close and I was hoping it would be banned. It looks like a rugby scrum. I hate it.
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                      • 2Sweeet
                        SBR MVP
                        • 08-31-22
                        • 1149

                        #12
                        Originally posted by DwightShrute
                        The tush push of the #Eagles will likely be banned today per the Athletic

                        Wrong again survey says? XXX
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                        • 2Sweeet
                          SBR MVP
                          • 08-31-22
                          • 1149

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
                          It actually should be dis-allowed:

                          1) It's not in the spirit of the game.
                          2) Wait until you have a Def Tackle paralyzed. If they're handling the weight of four guys, one of these DTs is going to get laid out in a big way.
                          Stfu guy and go shine JV's Cocck no1 has ever been hurt on the play. PPL like u r lucky there are forums.
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                          • stevenash
                            Moderator
                            • 01-17-11
                            • 65267

                            #14
                            Push on


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                            • stevenash
                              Moderator
                              • 01-17-11
                              • 65267

                              #15
                              By: Michael Silver
                              -The Athletic


                              Start greasing the light poles. Or, as Philadelphia Eagles fans would have it, go lubricate the lampposts with the tears of their vanquished rivals.

                              Once again, in the City of Brotherly Shove, it’s celebration time.

                              The Eagles, fresh off their dominant victory over the Kansas City Chiefs in Super Bowl LIX, secured an unlikely triumph in a suburban Minneapolis hotel ballroom Wednesday, staving off a strong push to ban the team’s signature short-yardage play.

                              The tush push, also known as the Brotherly Shove, lives to fight another season.

                              And the Eagles — who brought retired center Jason Kelce to the NFL’s spring meeting as an A-list advocate and whose owner, Jeffrey Lurie, spent half an hour making an impassioned plea for the play’s survival — can exhale, at least for another 10 months or so.

                              This was the right outcome, even if there are good reasons for getting rid of the play and eliminating the pushing and pulling of ball carriers in general. Before 2005, none of that was allowed, and many of us would be fine going back to the way it was. Though there’s no overwhelming evidence that the Brotherly Shove (or its less-ballyhooed cousin in Buffalo) has had negative health-and-safety ramifications, it’s fair to assess whether it could eventually lead to a catastrophic injury.

                              However, invoking this ban now would have been a bad, bad look, not to mention a motivational gift to the league’s most talented team. For all the talk about how the tush push doesn’t look like a football play, the optics of depriving the Eagles of a competitive advantage they worked hard to craft were far ghastlier.

                              The Eagles’ rivals for NFL supremacy would have looked like sore losers. And it would have been hard to convince people otherwise.

                              Yet heading into Wednesday’s pre-vote discussion, the belief was that at least 24 owners (the three-quarters threshold for a rule change) were willing to absorb that stigma.

                              Then Kelce walked in with Lurie, intent on pulling off an unlikely comeback in the final seconds. Both men hurled their share of hyperbole.


                              The six-time first-team All-Pro center insisted to the owners, “If I could run 60 tush pushes a game, I’d come back.” That seems at odds with some of Kelce’s past depictions of the act, including his admission during the 2023 season to Fox’s Laura Okmin that he habitually yelled “F— my life!” while being propelled to the bottom of the pile.

                              Lurie, in making his case, called the tush push “the safest play in the history of the game.”

                              The kneeldown would like a word (unless Greg Schiano is involved).

                              Significantly, the NFL’s chief medical officer, Dr. Allen Sills, was not at Wednesday’s meeting to offer his assessment. That dubious decision was one reason nine other owners sided with Lurie and voted against the proposal — officially submitted by the Green Bay Packers, with a not-so-subtle push from commissioner Roger Goodell — leaving it two votes short of passage.

                              Some owners believed they were being railroaded, which was one of several objections to the overall process. The publicly owned Packers, the only club without a nominal owner, seemed to have been strategically chosen by the commissioner. In the end, their top decision-makers had the right to feel exploited.

                              The Packers won’t be able to channel that into some sort of “Us Against the World” mantra that permeates their locker room. However, had the vote passed, the defending champs could have. Even after molly-whopping Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs in New Orleans last February, the 2025 Eagles would have had reason to cast themselves as aggrieved outcasts on a mission to vanquish their avengers.

                              Think the 2007 New England Patriots — or the January 2015 through February 2018 Patriots — but without the scandal.

                              Heck, perhaps newly extended coach Nick Sirianni will be able to use the attempted banning of the Brotherly Shove as a call to action.

                              In defending the Eagles’ honor, it’s important to remember that gamesmanship — and the search for a competitive advantage — is part of pro football. A decade ago, after signing Tim Tebow, the Eagles proposed a rule change that would have (in part) moved 2-point conversion attempts from the 2-yard line to the 1. I’m sure it was a total coincidence that Tebow’s skill set aligned with the proposal; alas, it didn’t pass, and Tebow was cut before the start of the 2015 season.

                              This time, Philly finessed the existing rules and came up with a nearly unstoppable play. Taking that away seems punitive, especially in the wake of a championship. However, if and when we enter an offseason in which the Eagles aren’t the reigning Lombardi-hoisters, getting rid of the tush push won’t bother me nearly as much.

                              For one thing, its aesthetics are awful. Further, if a center (or other player) suffers a severe injury while buried under hundreds of pounds’ worth of bodies, it’ll be hard to look back and say we couldn’t have seen it coming.

                              Lastly, in relation to the ongoing (and increasingly skewed) yin/yang of offense vs. defense, pushing sometimes feels like an unfair advantage.

                              When defensive players shove back a ball carrier, the whistle blows almost immediately and the player is given forward progress to the point of contact. And in that context, any defensive player who comes in hard risks incurring an unnecessary roughness penalty for contact deemed too harsh, even if the whistle hasn’t yet blown.

                              Conversely, in recent seasons, we’ve seen a rise in plays in which ball carriers (usually outside the hashmarks) have their progress halted but get pushed from behind by one or more teammates — and the play is allowed to continue for several seconds, with significant yards added on.

                              Moments like that make me want all pushing taken out of the game, and I don’t think I’m alone. Until then, if nothing else, the league needs to direct its officials to stop doing this. If a ball carrier’s progress is stopped, stop the play; let it work both ways.

                              Though I’m all for tweaking the rules to make the game better — and safer — getting rid of the tush push now would not have been forward progress. Rather, it would have reeked of hastiness, convenience and sloppy logic. Worst of all, it would have seemed vindictive.

                              The Eagles earned this advantage, just as they earned that Lombardi. Let them have their moment.


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