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    Linux 101

    I've been reading up on Linux and the different variety's of the OS. I would like to give Linux a test drive.I would appreciate some feed back from Linux veterans on what is the best entry point to this program. I am a complete novice.I could be wrong here,but it seems to me,Linux programs have one thing in common,the "command line"or"Shell".It seems reasonable that if one can grasp the prompst for the "command line",one would have a good grasp on all variety's of Linux.





    Thanks for any feedback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Dogs View Post
    I've been reading up on Linux and the different variety's of the OS. I would like to give Linux a test drive.I would appreciate some feed back from Linux veterans on what is the best entry point to this program. I am a complete novice.I could be wrong here,but it seems to me,Linux programs have one thing in common,the "command line"or"Shell".It seems reasonable that if one can grasp the prompst for the "command line",one would have a good grasp on all variety's of Linux.
    Thanks for any feedback.
    I'm a Linux Server Admin/Cisco Network Admin for a livinig. A Couple of things first.

    1.) Are you wanting a gui or are you comfortable working on a command line?
    2.) What kind of hardware are you wanting to put Linux on?
    3.) Are you wanting to keep windows in a dual boot type of scenario or perhaps in a VM type scenario or is this going to be a stand alone type of system?
    4.) Linux distros really come down to personal preference. I prefer a distro called Debian. For beginners a good place to start is Ubuntu, which is a fork of Debian, and is designed for beginners.

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    hubie69,thanks for your reply.Im a total beginner as far as Linux OS goes.I just recently started reading,about Linux online.It seems to me there is allot to wrap your head around as a true beginner.As far as your questions go,a gui might be the way for me to go right now.Correct me if I'm wrong but isnt working from the command line the best way to get the most out of Linux?......I have a new HP 23'' Touchsmart Touch Screen Computar,this is where I will Install the new OS.....Gonna probably go dual boot so if I fall on my ass,I can still use Windows.
    Ubuntu,seems like the right place to start,and perhaps move up after my learning curve.....Can Linux be installed on a tablet? Or does Android 4.1 bang heads with Linux.


    Thanks again for your response

    Joe

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    bump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Dogs View Post
    hubie69,thanks for your reply.Im a total beginner as far as Linux OS goes.I just recently started reading,about Linux online.It seems to me there is allot to wrap your head around as a true beginner.As far as your questions go,a gui might be the way for me to go right now.Correct me if I'm wrong but isnt working from the command line the best way to get the most out of Linux?......I have a new HP 23'' Touchsmart Touch Screen Computar,this is where I will Install the new OS.....Gonna probably go dual boot so if I fall on my ass,I can still use Windows.
    Ubuntu,seems like the right place to start,and perhaps move up after my learning curve.....Can Linux be installed on a tablet? Or does Android 4.1 bang heads with Linux.


    Thanks again for your response

    Joe
    Linux is used mostly for administrators that manage servers. That being said, download Linux backtrack and try to crack your own wi fi password using a usb dongle. At least it will give you something to do instead of looking at a boring gui.

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    Tried it. Whether its too late for me or whether a sleak gui is superior I went back to W7. Dual boot and try it out.

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    Since we are locked down

    Try Elementary OS

    Especially if you like Mac

    Been test driving it for 3 days... so far so good

    The Packaged Browser is Dog Doo but with only scant knowledge of Linux you can add most any browser you like

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    Rookie thread just get yourself a raspberry pi 4 much simpler

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post


    Rookie thread just get yourself a raspberry pi 4 much simpler




    Elementary OS = Operating System -- It's free (unless you want to donate) to DL

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    Been a week... only minor grievances. But those are 'fixable' if you know Linux

    Going to pound the OS this weekend giving it the biggest test run

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    Quote Originally Posted by gauchojake View Post


    Riveting...

    apparently

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    Rasberry costs $120 approx

    Very fast

    Linux based

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Rasberry costs $120 approx

    Very fast

    Linux based
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    Or go to open source and get an older version for free. If your just getting started it's a good and free alternative.

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    hahaha just realized this is an old thread

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    New old thread...

    Post #7 new

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    Linux is tremendous


    All the pros run it

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    How can Linux help my business?

    I am seriously all ears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post


    Linux is tremendous


    All the pros run it

    and most hackers run it and/or a Unix-like OS

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    rookies=windows

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    How can Linux help my business?

    I am seriously all ears.

    Hard to say without knowing the technical aspects of your business. You can probably do almost anything in Windows or Linux. File operations is the big advantage for me.

    Better overall performance
    Can handle folders with large number of files better
    Faster reading and writing of files
    Good scripting support for installing things and making configuration changes
    Supported on cloud and virtual machines
    Good vpn command line tools available making it easy to switch IPs


    If you are building custom software using popular programming languages, it can run on any environment pretty much. If you are developing custom software or scripts, Linux is a good environment. The magic is in the custom software and scripts though, not the operating system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post


    Since we are locked down

    Try Elementary OS

    Especially if you like Mac

    Been test driving it for 3 days... so far so good

    The Packaged Browser is Dog Doo but with only scant knowledge of Linux you can add most any browser you like

    Been little over two weeks of running Elementary OS daily

    It's for real... not as bulky as Ubuntu and runs well on older computers

    Give it a try

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    Quote Originally Posted by turtledoves View Post
    Hard to say without knowing the technical aspects of your business. You can probably do almost anything in Windows or Linux. File operations is the big advantage for me.

    Better overall performance
    Can handle folders with large number of files better
    Faster reading and writing of files
    Good scripting support for installing things and making configuration changes
    Supported on cloud and virtual machines
    Good vpn command line tools available making it easy to switch IPs


    If you are building custom software using popular programming languages, it can run on any environment pretty much. If you are developing custom software or scripts, Linux is a good environment. The magic is in the custom software and scripts though, not the operating system.
    These are definitely where linux shines. Knowing more than just how to point and click on icons can allow you to accomplish things that you thought would be impossible otherwise.
    Want to set up your computer to automatically compress .jpg files larger than 100 kb but smaller than 500 kb created in the last 3 days and move them to your work computer at 4 am every night? No problem. Want to search for every text file with the text "sports book" and replace the 8th occurrence with "Sportsbook"? Sure. Want to connect to your stock broker using their API and buy some $AMZN if it goes below $2100 but don't want to wake up before noon? You got it.

    You of course could do these things on windows but in a clunkier way that would take longer to get working properly. Just my 2 cents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peacebyinches View Post
    These are definitely where linux shines. Knowing more than just how to point and click on icons can allow you to accomplish things that you thought would be impossible otherwise.
    Want to set up your computer to automatically compress .jpg files larger than 100 kb but smaller than 500 kb created in the last 3 days and move them to your work computer at 4 am every night? No problem. Want to search for every text file with the text "sports book" and replace the 8th occurrence with "Sportsbook"? Sure. Want to connect to your stock broker using their API and buy some $AMZN if it goes below $2100 but don't want to wake up before noon? You got it.

    You of course could do these things on windows but in a clunkier way that would take longer to get working properly. Just my 2 cents.
    Basically a great summary

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    Linux fanboys/geeks

    would not run Elementary OS , Sammy knows that

    but Elementary is Great for a newbie to Linux

    fanboys would prefer Arch or a spinoff like Manjaro

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    Sam, is this really you posting or is it Rodrigo? This is geeky for a 70 year old man.

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    Linux for pros

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Basically a great summary

    What an honor to have jjgold sarcastically respond to my post. I finally feel like I belong. Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Basically a great summary

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