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  • Joe Dogs
    SBR MVP
    • 07-20-09
    • 1931

    #1
    Linux 101
    I've been reading up on Linux and the different variety's of the OS. I would like to give Linux a test drive.I would appreciate some feed back from Linux veterans on what is the best entry point to this program. I am a complete novice.I could be wrong here,but it seems to me,Linux programs have one thing in common,the "command line"or"Shell".It seems reasonable that if one can grasp the prompst for the "command line",one would have a good grasp on all variety's of Linux.





    Thanks for any feedback.
  • hubie69
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 09-16-10
    • 7329

    #2
    Originally posted by Joe Dogs
    I've been reading up on Linux and the different variety's of the OS. I would like to give Linux a test drive.I would appreciate some feed back from Linux veterans on what is the best entry point to this program. I am a complete novice.I could be wrong here,but it seems to me,Linux programs have one thing in common,the "command line"or"Shell".It seems reasonable that if one can grasp the prompst for the "command line",one would have a good grasp on all variety's of Linux.
    Thanks for any feedback.
    I'm a Linux Server Admin/Cisco Network Admin for a livinig. A Couple of things first.

    1.) Are you wanting a gui or are you comfortable working on a command line?
    2.) What kind of hardware are you wanting to put Linux on?
    3.) Are you wanting to keep windows in a dual boot type of scenario or perhaps in a VM type scenario or is this going to be a stand alone type of system?
    4.) Linux distros really come down to personal preference. I prefer a distro called Debian. For beginners a good place to start is Ubuntu, which is a fork of Debian, and is designed for beginners.

    Thanks,
    Hubie
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    • Joe Dogs
      SBR MVP
      • 07-20-09
      • 1931

      #3
      hubie69,thanks for your reply.Im a total beginner as far as Linux OS goes.I just recently started reading,about Linux online.It seems to me there is allot to wrap your head around as a true beginner.As far as your questions go,a gui might be the way for me to go right now.Correct me if I'm wrong but isnt working from the command line the best way to get the most out of Linux?......I have a new HP 23'' Touchsmart Touch Screen Computar,this is where I will Install the new OS.....Gonna probably go dual boot so if I fall on my ass,I can still use Windows.
      Ubuntu,seems like the right place to start,and perhaps move up after my learning curve.....Can Linux be installed on a tablet? Or does Android 4.1 bang heads with Linux.


      Thanks again for your response

      Joe
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      • Joe Dogs
        SBR MVP
        • 07-20-09
        • 1931

        #4
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        • Juicy Juice
          SBR Hustler
          • 09-14-13
          • 65

          #5
          Originally posted by Joe Dogs
          hubie69,thanks for your reply.Im a total beginner as far as Linux OS goes.I just recently started reading,about Linux online.It seems to me there is allot to wrap your head around as a true beginner.As far as your questions go,a gui might be the way for me to go right now.Correct me if I'm wrong but isnt working from the command line the best way to get the most out of Linux?......I have a new HP 23'' Touchsmart Touch Screen Computar,this is where I will Install the new OS.....Gonna probably go dual boot so if I fall on my ass,I can still use Windows.
          Ubuntu,seems like the right place to start,and perhaps move up after my learning curve.....Can Linux be installed on a tablet? Or does Android 4.1 bang heads with Linux.


          Thanks again for your response

          Joe
          Linux is used mostly for administrators that manage servers. That being said, download Linux backtrack and try to crack your own wi fi password using a usb dongle. At least it will give you something to do instead of looking at a boring gui.
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          • Boner_18
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 08-24-08
            • 8301

            #6
            Tried it. Whether its too late for me or whether a sleak gui is superior I went back to W7. Dual boot and try it out.
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            • Sam Odom
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 10-30-05
              • 58063

              #7
              Since we are locked down

              Try Elementary OS

              Especially if you like Mac

              Been test driving it for 3 days... so far so good

              The Packaged Browser is Dog Doo but with only scant knowledge of Linux you can add most any browser you like
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              • jjgold
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 07-20-05
                • 388179

                #8
                Rookie thread just get yourself a raspberry pi 4 much simpler
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                • Sam Odom
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 10-30-05
                  • 58063

                  #9
                  Originally posted by jjgold


                  Rookie thread just get yourself a raspberry pi 4 much simpler




                  Elementary OS = Operating System -- It's free (unless you want to donate) to DL
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                  • Sam Odom
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 10-30-05
                    • 58063

                    #10
                    Been a week... only minor grievances. But those are 'fixable' if you know Linux

                    Going to pound the OS this weekend giving it the biggest test run
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                    • gauchojake
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 09-17-10
                      • 34108

                      #11
                      Riveting...
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                      • Sam Odom
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 10-30-05
                        • 58063

                        #12
                        Originally posted by gauchojake


                        Riveting...

                        apparently
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                        • jjgold
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 07-20-05
                          • 388179

                          #13
                          Rasberry costs $120 approx

                          Very fast

                          Linux based
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                          • gauchojake
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 09-17-10
                            • 34108

                            #14
                            Originally posted by jjgold
                            Rasberry costs $120 approx

                            Very fast

                            Linux based
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                            • clockwise1965
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 10-01-13
                              • 6753

                              #15
                              Or go to open source and get an older version for free. If your just getting started it's a good and free alternative.
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                              • Jimmy Beamish
                                SBR Hustler
                                • 09-06-11
                                • 78

                                #16
                                hahaha just realized this is an old thread
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                                • Sam Odom
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 10-30-05
                                  • 58063

                                  #17
                                  New old thread...

                                  Post #7 new
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                                  • turtledoves
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 08-27-17
                                    • 3398

                                    #18
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                                    • jjgold
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 07-20-05
                                      • 388179

                                      #19
                                      Linux is tremendous


                                      All the pros run it
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                                      • KVB
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 05-29-14
                                        • 74817

                                        #20
                                        How can Linux help my business?

                                        I am seriously all ears.

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                                        • Sam Odom
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 10-30-05
                                          • 58063

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by jjgold


                                          Linux is tremendous


                                          All the pros run it

                                          and most hackers run it and/or a Unix-like OS
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                                          • jjgold
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 07-20-05
                                            • 388179

                                            #22
                                            rookies=windows
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                                            • turtledoves
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 08-27-17
                                              • 3398

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by KVB
                                              How can Linux help my business?

                                              I am seriously all ears.

                                              Hard to say without knowing the technical aspects of your business. You can probably do almost anything in Windows or Linux. File operations is the big advantage for me.

                                              Better overall performance
                                              Can handle folders with large number of files better
                                              Faster reading and writing of files
                                              Good scripting support for installing things and making configuration changes
                                              Supported on cloud and virtual machines
                                              Good vpn command line tools available making it easy to switch IPs


                                              If you are building custom software using popular programming languages, it can run on any environment pretty much. If you are developing custom software or scripts, Linux is a good environment. The magic is in the custom software and scripts though, not the operating system.
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                                              • Sam Odom
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 10-30-05
                                                • 58063

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Sam Odom


                                                Since we are locked down

                                                Try Elementary OS

                                                Especially if you like Mac

                                                Been test driving it for 3 days... so far so good

                                                The Packaged Browser is Dog Doo but with only scant knowledge of Linux you can add most any browser you like

                                                Been little over two weeks of running Elementary OS daily

                                                It's for real... not as bulky as Ubuntu and runs well on older computers

                                                Give it a try
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                                                • peacebyinches
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 02-13-10
                                                  • 1112

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by turtledoves
                                                  Hard to say without knowing the technical aspects of your business. You can probably do almost anything in Windows or Linux. File operations is the big advantage for me.

                                                  Better overall performance
                                                  Can handle folders with large number of files better
                                                  Faster reading and writing of files
                                                  Good scripting support for installing things and making configuration changes
                                                  Supported on cloud and virtual machines
                                                  Good vpn command line tools available making it easy to switch IPs


                                                  If you are building custom software using popular programming languages, it can run on any environment pretty much. If you are developing custom software or scripts, Linux is a good environment. The magic is in the custom software and scripts though, not the operating system.
                                                  These are definitely where linux shines. Knowing more than just how to point and click on icons can allow you to accomplish things that you thought would be impossible otherwise.
                                                  Want to set up your computer to automatically compress .jpg files larger than 100 kb but smaller than 500 kb created in the last 3 days and move them to your work computer at 4 am every night? No problem. Want to search for every text file with the text "sports book" and replace the 8th occurrence with "Sportsbook"? Sure. Want to connect to your stock broker using their API and buy some $AMZN if it goes below $2100 but don't want to wake up before noon? You got it.

                                                  You of course could do these things on windows but in a clunkier way that would take longer to get working properly. Just my 2 cents.
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                                                  • jjgold
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                    • 388179

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by peacebyinches
                                                    These are definitely where linux shines. Knowing more than just how to point and click on icons can allow you to accomplish things that you thought would be impossible otherwise.
                                                    Want to set up your computer to automatically compress .jpg files larger than 100 kb but smaller than 500 kb created in the last 3 days and move them to your work computer at 4 am every night? No problem. Want to search for every text file with the text "sports book" and replace the 8th occurrence with "Sportsbook"? Sure. Want to connect to your stock broker using their API and buy some $AMZN if it goes below $2100 but don't want to wake up before noon? You got it.

                                                    You of course could do these things on windows but in a clunkier way that would take longer to get working properly. Just my 2 cents.
                                                    Basically a great summary
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                                                    • Sam Odom
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 10-30-05
                                                      • 58063

                                                      #27
                                                      Linux fanboys/geeks

                                                      would not run Elementary OS , Sammy knows that

                                                      but Elementary is Great for a newbie to Linux

                                                      fanboys would prefer Arch or a spinoff like Manjaro
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                                                      • Rocco Rossi
                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                        • 10-03-15
                                                        • 171

                                                        #28
                                                        Sam, is this really you posting or is it Rodrigo? This is geeky for a 70 year old man.
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                                                        • Sam Odom
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 10-30-05
                                                          • 58063

                                                          #29
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                                                          • jjgold
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 07-20-05
                                                            • 388179

                                                            #30
                                                            Linux for pros
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                                                            • peacebyinches
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 02-13-10
                                                              • 1112

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by jjgold
                                                              Basically a great summary

                                                              What an honor to have jjgold sarcastically respond to my post. I finally feel like I belong. Thank you.
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                                                              • swordsandtequila
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 02-23-12
                                                                • 9757

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by jjgold
                                                                Basically a great summary
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