"You have to be looking at the game yourself and saying this is not entertaining"
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stevenashModerator
- 01-17-11
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#1"You have to be looking at the game yourself and saying this is not entertaining"Tags: None -
ChuckyTheGoatBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 04-04-11
- 37049
#2I like Rob. But that's a pretty strange comment.
Surely the league is profitable. My only critiques would be:
1) Abandon the mid-season tournament. This isn't European Champions League.
2) Put MORE games in the post-season.
3) Put FEWER games in the Regular season.Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?Comment -
ChuckyTheGoatBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 04-04-11
- 37049
#3
1) Regular Season has too many games in a short span.
...72 games over the same time span. Lower Avg # Games per week.
...Load-mgmt is standard. Players don't have motivation to push it.
2) The 3-point shot is of your own doing.
...Curry figured it out. He crafted his game around that rule.
...Compare to the game from the 70s. Used to be a big-man's game. Not the same now.
3) Expand the playoffs. Those are the games that matter.
...Play-In games should be a 3-game Mini-Series. That's a good start.Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?Comment -
strSBR Posting Legend
- 01-12-09
- 11642
#4Either make it a 2 1/2 point play, move it 5-6 feet back or kill it IMO.
Seems hoops need to be more strategic than it is today. More defense and team play instead of one on one or two on two. Shorter season as well. Make it up with the playoffs.
That has to start with the kids IMO. An entire generation or two has been taught a different way to play.
Drastic for sure but who wants to watch that crap as it is. Even the 3 on 3 in the Olympics looked terrible too me. I’m probably in the minority though. Old school for me.
The younger people should decide I guess.Comment -
ChuckyTheGoatBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 04-04-11
- 37049
#5str, the first two players that caught my eye were Chamberlain and Alcindor (later Kareem). Those two looked larger than life to me. Then came Walton, who seemed to never lose.Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?Comment -
IBetYouSBR Hall of Famer
- 07-03-15
- 8158
#6Either make it a 2 1/2 point play, move it 5-6 feet back or kill it IMO.
Seems hoops need to be more strategic than it is today. More defense and team play instead of one on one or two on two. Shorter season as well. Make it up with the playoffs.
That has to start with the kids IMO. An entire generation or two has been taught a different way to play.
Drastic for sure but who wants to watch that crap as it is. Even the 3 on 3 in the Olympics looked terrible too me. I’m probably in the minority though. Old school for me.
The younger people should decide I guess.Comment -
Eddy MunnySBR Posting Legend
- 08-13-13
- 15762
#7I like Rob. But that's a pretty strange comment.
Surely the league is profitable. My only critiques would be:
1) Abandon the mid-season tournament. This isn't European Champions League.
2) Put MORE games in the post-season.
3) Put FEWER games in the Regular season.
The mid-season tournament is not a problem. People may not be head over heels for it, but it ain't hurting the league.
You could shorten the regular season, I don't think 82 games are necessary, but you're not going to solve the crux of the issue when it comes to waning interest in the league. The actual mechanics of the game are at the heart of the problem, tweaking the schedule is a misdiagnosis.Comment -
DrunkHorseplayerSBR Hall of Famer
- 05-15-10
- 7719
#9Cut the season back to 60 games, eliminate the soccer tourney and take only division winners plus one wild card in each conference to the playoffs.Comment -
IBetYouSBR Hall of Famer
- 07-03-15
- 8158
#10That's no good. If a team suffers a lot of injuries during the season then they don;t make the playoffs. Then also maybe teams that were injury free through most of the season suffer them a lot at the end. Ultimately you want the best teams to have a chance in the moment.Comment -
Eddy MunnySBR Posting Legend
- 08-13-13
- 15762
#11It's not bad. People generally aren't paying attention to NBA games in December anyways so I don't understand the bellyaching about an in-season tournament. I think it at least gives players a little more pep in their step for games they might otherwise be going through the motions.Comment -
strSBR Posting Legend
- 01-12-09
- 11642
#12
1 shot technical and keep the ball.Comment -
strSBR Posting Legend
- 01-12-09
- 11642
#13More physicality on the perimeter and less in the paint and the glass.Comment -
IBetYouSBR Hall of Famer
- 07-03-15
- 8158
#14Can;t defend on 1 on 1. Imagine a team like the Grizz putting 4 guys in the corner while Morant has the ball up top. He'd get to the basket every time wouldn't he? No help defense you say? It would also be very repetitive and dull to watch. Part of what makes basketball interesting to watch is the problem solving aspect of it.Comment -
2SweeetSBR MVP
- 08-31-22
- 1176
#15Can;t defend on 1 on 1. Imagine a team like the Grizz putting 4 guys in the corner while Morant has the ball up top. He'd get to the basket every time wouldn't he? No help defense you say? It would also be very repetitive and dull to watch. Part of what makes basketball interesting to watch is the problem solving aspect of it.Comment -
IBetYouSBR Hall of Famer
- 07-03-15
- 8158
#16SGA 39pts last night in 29mins, shooting 15/21. Maybe if it were 1on1 he could go 20/21?? 21/21???Comment -
strSBR Posting Legend
- 01-12-09
- 11642
#17Can;t defend on 1 on 1. Imagine a team like the Grizz putting 4 guys in the corner while Morant has the ball up top. He'd get to the basket every time wouldn't he? No help defense you say? It would also be very repetitive and dull to watch. Part of what makes basketball interesting to watch is the problem solving aspect of it.
How about not trying to argue with me and go watch a game from the 60,s 70.s and see what you see, or don't.
Then tell me todays one on one, no defense BS is as good or team oriented as that was.Comment -
IBetYouSBR Hall of Famer
- 07-03-15
- 8158
#18
Pistons won a championship with substandard talent because they were onto the modern trend with Laimbeer, but for some reason coaches didn't catch on to the trick. No analytics teams back then.Comment -
Otters27BARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 07-14-07
- 30749
#19Less games so guys can bring it on defense every night.Comment -
strSBR Posting Legend
- 01-12-09
- 11642
#20You wrote make teams defend 1on1. By definition that means no help. Correct me if I'm wrong. I've been watching the game a long time... teams didn't know how to win back then. Nothing to do with changes in the rules as the likes of Oakley say. D'Antoni/ Nelson changed the game far more than Steph Curry. Shooters at every position. Easy to get dribble penetration; set a screen, and then help HAS to come thus threes aplenty. It's fairly simple. But they didn't have many bigs shooting threes in the old days.
Pistons won a championship with substandard talent because they were onto the modern trend with Laimbeer, but for some reason coaches didn't catch on to the trick. No analytics teams back then.
If you have watched basketball for as long as you say, you know exactly what I mean.
The thread was created because as the game exists, it is unwatchable to many. My responses have been as to a reason why it is different.
If you want to see what I am saying, go watch Nelson when he played for the Celtics. A team game. Not todays stuff.Comment -
IBetYouSBR Hall of Famer
- 07-03-15
- 8158
#21I'm not saying that the game is as entertaining as it was back then. I'm just shooting holes in the solutions that imo wouldn't work.
Didn't realise you meant non-zone... but the overwhelming majority of defense played in the NBA is not zone anyway so I don't know wtf you'd say that. Zone is generally a college basketball thing. HEAT & Mavs have had success with it over the year but for most teams it's a gimmick.Comment -
MaizeySBR High Roller
- 08-11-18
- 226
#22I like the first two ideas. The 2 1/2 is a little tough to implement logistically, so I'd opt for moving the line further out. I don't even think it needs to be 5-6 feet back. 3 feet is probably enough to eliminate it as a strategic option for the vast majority of players.Comment -
RavensFan2k3SBR Posting Legend
- 08-18-12
- 17378
#23I like Rob. But that's a pretty strange comment.
Surely the league is profitable. My only critiques would be:
1) Abandon the mid-season tournament. This isn't European Champions League.
2) Put MORE games in the post-season.
3) Put FEWER games in the Regular season.Comment -
HoleWreckerSBR High Roller
- 10-12-24
- 208
#24The mid season tournament is retarded.Comment -
Steelers05SBR High Roller
- 12-12-24
- 220
#26Too much to say on the topic, new NBA is just idiotic. Nothing will change because all of them are making ridiculous money, role players signing 4 year 80 million dollar deals is stupid. I pray the money drys up, otherwise nothing will change.Comment -
mjsuax13Moderator
- 03-14-15
- 25029
#27Truth. There’s no reason to give a shit really. You get $100 million for being mediocre. You can play part time too.Comment -
IBetYouSBR Hall of Famer
- 07-03-15
- 8158
#28You're all missing the point. There is no change to be made. People just didn't know how to win back then. They didn't even have more than a few stretch bigs in the league back then, and the shooting in general was no where near what it is now.Comment -
IBetYouSBR Hall of Famer
- 07-03-15
- 8158
#29The '16 Thunder may have been the last team to try and win the old way. They had two of the brightest stars in the league at the time - Westbrick & Durant - and they surrounded them with three non-shooters that could defend/ scrap (Roberson/ Ibaka/ Adams). Poor idea. Lost to a Warriors team that should have lost to the Spurs in the earlier round, and did lose in the finals.Comment -
IBetYouSBR Hall of Famer
- 07-03-15
- 8158
#30If you want to watch old-style basketball, then watch WNBA. They're about 10 years behind. Lots of post-play because the shots from the perimeter don't go in. You'll love it.Comment -
Steelers05SBR High Roller
- 12-12-24
- 220
#31Call me crazy but I liked it when teams had to slowly work for and build up an 8-10 point lead over 3-4 quarters because it was so competitive back and forth and defense was being played by all. The 90's into the mid 00's was NBA at it's best; I miss the Pistons locking down teams and holding them to 80 pts.Comment -
k13SBR Posting Legend
- 07-16-10
- 18094
#32
All these teams suck but someone has to win.
There's nothing that has improved.
3 pt% is the same a decades ago.Comment -
strSBR Posting Legend
- 01-12-09
- 11642
#34Exactly. Someone has to win! Some glaring facts here.
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/nba...ages-by-decade
About 40% of the shots were from 3 point land.
Also sorry to miss that 136-123 Pelican/Jazz game.
100 shots taken by New Orleans and 50 were 3's.
Some serious clampdown defense in that one.Comment -
HoleWreckerSBR High Roller
- 10-12-24
- 208
#35MLB is becoming trash too.Comment
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