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  • ThaTopMoron
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    #1
    People are asking why the Ravens are -1 on the road v Cowboys, let's discuss
    Why? because NFL teams, especially perennial playoff teams who trip over themselves into a 0-2 start or get unlucky or just lose to good teams or lose because the QB is injured for weeks 1 or 1 and 2... LOVE to win week 3

    The Cowboys won week 1 but that was the Browns being similar to the Colts by being unprepared to properly open the season - while Dallas was pumped up to win after Dak got paid apparently and took advantage of the Browns and a rusty Watson

    But what happened? they got destroyed by the Saints and couldn't make proper changes to slow them down and stay in the game... very bad look on the coaches

    Ravens need to avoid 0-3... Dallas can survive 1-2 because they have the Giants 4 days later on TNF and then get 10 days to prepare for the Steelers so they can easily get to 3-2 with 2 road victories where they will be favored

    More likely to see both teams at 1-2 following this game

    Books didn't want to hang Ravens at +money for a lot of reasons here

    Ravens ML -118 and -1 -112 are auto plays here, great spot to lay a team for a 2 units instead of 1

    Look at how the Bengals scratched and clawed their way to a week 3 win last season on MNF... after losing to divisional rivals Browns and then by 3 to Ravens they found a way to win 19-16 week 3 v the Rams

    RAVENS -1 is the play... you can hope for the line to swing towards Dallas later on and possibly get Ravens ML closer to +100 but who knows... DK shows the money being 64% v 36% towards the Ravens

    This is a spot bet to me, a situational play on a team who coming off a sad AFCCG loss... a loss to KC because a guy's shoe size was too big by an inch... and a 10 point 4th quarter lead at home letdown and loss because a tight end couldn't come up with a clutch catch on the sideline with 1 second left to setup a 50 something yard field goal attempt to get to OT - the Raiders pull off that comeback about 5% to 10% of the time they play out that 13-23 4th quarter scenario.

    Dallas let the Saints score on drive, after drive, after drive... lost by 25. Same old Dak who doesn't have a lot if you shutdown Lamb... no Pollard at RB and same defense that is capable of getting turnovers v sloppy QB play but is prone to being undersized and run over and also gives up big plays. Gave up 170 rushing and multiple 50+ yard TD's while Dak threw 2 picks. Dallas isn't scary at all here.

    HOW do you even come up with valid reasons to bet on the Cowboys here other than the fact they are at home and basically sitting at +100. That's betting the number and not the situation at hand.

    Side note here: Lamar Jackson has a great record v NFC teams

    home teams lose all the time... the Eagles just lost at home because Saquon couldn't catch a pass and score or go down for a first down to essentially end the game

    Ravens are an auto play here and I will also be parlaying them with the Jets ML on TNF as the Jets are at home coming off a late game win v Titans coming up clutch versus the Patriots who were up 20-17 late v Seattle and folded and ended up losing in OT. Teams going in opposite directions here.

    Ravens ML/Jets ML = +149

    Patriots made a big push to get to an unexpected 2-0 start but they fell short and will tire out v the Jets late after the OT loss. Jacoby v Rodgers and no disrespect to Jacoby but I watched him play almost two full seasons for the Colts in 2017 and 2019 and while he is capable of having random "good games" and making some plays, I cannot back him in this spot. He is easily adjusted too at half time by opposing defensive coordinators and that has been his calling card.

    The Jets won last season 17-3 to end the season and it was Bill's final game as coach of the Patriots, what a way to go out. Losing to Trevor Siemian who only passed for 70 yards but getting run over by B.Hall.

    The Jets win again here and start a win streak v the Patriots which they have been looking forward too for a long time.

    Same situation as the Bills beating the Patriots a bunch once Brady was gone. The Bills following 2019 went 6-1 in a 7 game stretch v the Patriots including a 30 point playoff wildcard win and are 7-2 overall v Patriots since Brady left.

    Now, if this goes according to plan... we will be setup to back the 0-2 Bengals at home on MNF v the Commanders. The Bengals are -8 for a reason here people. The 0-2 Bengals were in the same exact spot last season at home on MNF v a 1-1 team... but a harder spot in reality as Burrow was still getting into form from injury. Here, he is 0-2 because of the defense failing to get a stop on 4th and 16 and the Patriots getting up to win week 1 in the first game playing under new HC J. Mayo.

    So, if you really like going for a larger +money bet based off 3+ game ML parlays then week 3 is a decent spot for a +200 or better 3-team ML bet here.

    Ravens currently -118 @ Cowboys who just gave up 44
    Jets currently -285 at home on TNF v Patriots who just lost at home in OT
    Bengals currently -395 at home on MNF v Commanders with a rookie QB who just barely beat a BAD Giants team

    Parlay these together and you get +212 at DK and I bet some of you can find slightly better numbers if you shop around or have boosts to add.

    +212 with 2 0-2 teams that have QB's who can win v anyone and have played a lot of playoff games and a 1-1 team at home v a team on short rest + lost in OT at home after leading 20-17 late? Please, give me that bet.

    Look what the Rams did after having a 3 pt lead late v the Lions week 1 before losing in OT... they couldn't stop Arizona at all and the game was over after the first quarter!

    So to recap, NFL week 3 will give us some heavy ML winners after a week where lots of dogs won outright, the Packers, the Bucs, the Saints, the Falcons... the Browns and some favorites failed to cover, KC and Houston

    Ravens ML/-1
    Jets TNF ML/Ravens Sunday 4:25 ML parlay = +149
    Jets TNF ML/Ravens ML/Bengals at home MNF to avoid 0-3 (just like last season) parlay = +212
  • edawg
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    #2
    Because they are a better football team.
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    • Mac4Lyfe
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      #3
      Great write up TTM. I like the Ratbirds as well. Although I wouldn’t mind seeing them go 0-3.
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      • ChuckyTheGoat
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        • 04-04-11
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        #4
        Originally posted by edawg
        Because they are a better football team.
        One Ravens angle. I'm a little surprised by Tucker's downturn.

        *Maybe this is natural @ his age. He's now struggling on kicks > 50. Believe he's missed 7 of his L8 > 50.

        Not taking a shot @ Tucker. Just that when the Ravens played, I used to count on 1 or 2 pts in kicking-edge b/c Tucker was so good.
        Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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        • ChuckyTheGoat
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          #5
          And the DALL kicker (Aubrey) doesn't miss.
          Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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          • johnnyvegas13
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            #6
            Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
            And the DALL kicker (Aubrey) doesn't miss.
            He prob passed Tucker as best now
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            • DwightShrute
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              #7
              I loved seeing the Cowboys get their asses kicked.

              Huge game Sunday. Going 0-3 is almost unrecoverable. Its gonna be tense. Go Ravens?
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              • Slurry Pumper
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                #8
                I hate to bet games involving Dallas, they screw me either way almost every time.
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                • k13
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                  #9
                  Dallas is the play regardless who wins.
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                  • ChuckyTheGoat
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
                    One Ravens angle. I'm a little surprised by Tucker's downturn.

                    *Maybe this is natural @ his age. He's now struggling on kicks > 50. Believe he's missed 7 of his L8 > 50.

                    Not taking a shot @ Tucker. Just that when the Ravens played, I used to count on 1 or 2 pts in kicking-edge b/c Tucker was so good.
                    I actually think there's something to this. The Kicker angle.

                    Ravens are 0-2, Cowboys home off an embarrassing home loss vs NO. I don't think there's a motivational edge either way.

                    Harbaugh has an excellent ATS record as a Dog. Believe that BALT is 20-6 ATS as Dog in L6 years. I regularly bet Balt as a dog, and one reason was that I felt like I was getting a Kicker edge every time.

                    Tucker could make kicks that the opposing kicker couldn't. That is (sadly) no longer the case. He makes the routine kicks but struggles on FG > 50.

                    The Dallas kicker Aubrey is making everything. In a close game that's a big factor. If the line stretches out a little, I'll be looking at DALL as a Home Dog b/c of the kicker edge.
                    Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                    • Easy-Rider 66
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                      #11
                      BAL is the play irrespective of who wins? Do you see Balt 0-3 and Dallas 2-1? I don't. more likely they are both 1-2
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                      • unde0087
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by k13
                        Dallas is the play regardless who wins.
                        this guy kills me
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                        • darrell74
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                          #13
                          Ravens ml
                          It's just a lean,
                          and I'm probably gonna lay off this one as their are plenty of other games I'm interested in.

                          Down to coaching, take Harbaugh over McCarthy

                          Vegas Raiders are a little underrated, and they edged the Ravens out.

                          Cowboys got exposed.
                          Derek Carr stretched the field.
                          But then again, can Lamar Jackson stretch the field?
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                          • Tomatero
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                            #14
                            When the line look to easy, play the order side.
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                            • Madison
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                              #15
                              Is there a more phony group than the Cowgirls over the last 10 years or so? Sorry ladies (PC).

                              I'd bet 25% have proxy accounts in LV.

                              Fawk them!!
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                              • Madison
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Slurry Pumper
                                I hate to bet games involving Dallas, they screw me either way almost every time.
                                See above.
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                                • JIBBBY
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                                  #17
                                  Same old Cowboys, defense is suspect at times and the offense and DAK can flutter also. Sometimes they look like world beaters and then look like basement dwellers in the next game. I can't bet on that team this year.
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                                  • ThaTopMoron
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Slurry Pumper
                                    I hate to bet games involving Dallas, they screw me either way almost every time.
                                    I had a rule for 3 or 4 years where I wouldn't allow myself to involve Dallas in a bet to win a game or even put them in a parlay or teaser! They killed a huge parlay I had one year for 8 or 9 NFL/College games where the return was 5 digits. They went on the road as big favorites over a horrible Jets team and lost because they couldn't play defense v bum QB, called stupid speed options on 4th downs... missed field goals... gave up what was basically a hail mary on a 3rd and forever... it was a HORRIBLE experience watching it unfold when I only needed Dallas and one other leg after which was the SNF game I remember that and the SNF play hit...

                                    FAWK DALLAS

                                    if they win Sunday. SO BE IT. I wouldn't put a penny on Dak.
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                                    • Headsterx
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                                      #19
                                      The Athletic:

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                                      • mjsuax13
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                                        #20
                                        Two desperate teams but I agree with the Ravens here.
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                                        • mjsuax13
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Slurry Pumper
                                          I hate to bet games involving Dallas, they screw me either way almost every time.
                                          Like MLB Yankees for me. They always find a way to screw me.
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                                          • asiagambler
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                                            #22
                                            Ravens OL is really really really bad

                                            I would bet the Cowboys
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                                            • ThaTopMoron
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by asiagambler
                                              Ravens OL is really really really bad

                                              I would bet the Cowboys
                                              nah, Parsons is just 1 guy and Lamar can run away from him (hopefully)
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                                              • asiagambler
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by ThaTopMoron
                                                nah, Parsons is just 1 guy and Lamar can run away from him (hopefully)
                                                I would try to see if you can get any information on any changes to who's starting/getting majority of snaps on OL

                                                If still Faalele at RG then I would seriously consider getting out of the bet
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                                                • rhb04100
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                                                  #25
                                                  Fade cowboys is the perma play
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                                                  • lakerboy
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                                                    #26
                                                    McCarthy unemployment soon?
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                                                    • Optional
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                                                      #27
                                                      Dallas OL just being monstered
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                                                      • darrell74
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                                                        #28
                                                        Listening to Brady is like Listening to someone who can't sing, sing your favorite songs
                                                        He's on auto-mute for the rest of the season on my t.v.
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                                                        • Easy-Rider 66
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by darrell74
                                                          Listening to Brady is like Listening to someone who can't sing, sing your favorite songs
                                                          He's on auto-mute for the rest of the season on my t.v.
                                                          so Darrell you are saying Brady not worth 37 Million a year? LOL
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                                                          • darrell74
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66
                                                            so Darrell you are saying Brady not worth 37 Million a year? LOL
                                                            Trade him out with Gronk in the studio
                                                            Or whatever

                                                            Shouldn't get game of the week with Burkehardt
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                                                            • ThaTopMoron
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                                                              #31
                                                              nice 4th quarter...

                                                              I legit told my buddies when it was 28-6 that this is the point of the game where you cashout of your bets involving the Ravens (because of the big 4th Q choke last week) and based on what % you get, you put what you're "giving up" on the live Cowboys spread since they are a home team down 3 scores and the NFL loves close finishes for the drama.

                                                              so here we are and the Ravens let it get to a 3 point game and then they finished it off with a fake jet sweep QB keeper.

                                                              Ravens up 28-6. Ravens win 28-25.

                                                              Take ALL OF THIS INTO ACCOUNT. A team on the road needing to avoid 0-3... they get it done, but they got up BIG, 3 scores up 28-6 and then relaxed etc and all of a sudden it became a 10 pt game... then 3 point game.

                                                              CASH OUT and then take the LIVE spread of the home team that is down 3 scores.

                                                              Cashing out of bets on the Panthers to win and then taking the Raiders live spread at a score of 33-7... or even 27-7 would've worked out because the Raiders were around +18.5 live when down 7-27... lost 36-22, scored 15 in the 4th quarter at HOME.




                                                              so, Ravens ML cashes

                                                              Ravens ML/Jets ML cashes

                                                              Now, waiting for the Bengals to avoid 0-3 at home tomorrow night (have no idea if they will cover -7) just need a win to cash Ravens ML/Jets ML/Bengals ML parlay

                                                              I LOVE NFL WEEK 3 SPOT BETS!!!

                                                              --- not surprised one bit that the Bucs 2-0 didn't show up at home v 0-2 Broncos
                                                              --- not surprised that the Texans got blown away on the road as their price kept dropping all week just like Tampa
                                                              --- not surprised that the Browns lost... NEVER trust the Browns people
                                                              --- surprised that the Titans didn't play better but then I didn't factor in that the Packers QB was a Titan last season.... tells me a lot about the Titans coaching staff as well.
                                                              --- Surprised that the Niners choked away a win v the Rams but AGAIN....

                                                              The Rams were another 0-2 desperate team playing at home. They pulled it off after the Niners missed that 55-yard FG

                                                              If Carolina surprised you just remember the QB change isn't just something that affects 1 player. A new QB and a veteran who has won lots of games inspires "belief" in the rest of the team and the other star players to give it 100% knowing they NOW have a chance to compete. Raiders also had the letdown after pulling off the big 4th quarter rally v Ravens

                                                              Today was a classic example of the NFL at it's finest in it's current form.

                                                              Low scoring first half? Bet the 2nd half over.

                                                              High scoring first half that goes over? Bet the 2nd half under and you win better than 50% of the time imo.

                                                              GL tonight people... be wary of the 2-0 Chiefs on the road... 2 years ago they lost week 3 in Indy to Matt Ryan who had ZERO offensive line protection.

                                                              Line has dropped on KC for a reason but on the other hand I suspect the Chiefs may be ready to compete because of this game being on prime time and not a 1 pm game.
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                                                              • ChuckyTheGoat
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                                                                #32
                                                                I heard the Dallas post-game. Dak said that he's giving back 20% of his raise because of play below the acceptable standard.
                                                                Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                                                • Eddy Munny
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
                                                                  I heard the Dallas post-game. Dak said that he's giving back 20% of his raise because of play below the acceptable standard.
                                                                  Giving it back to Cowboys bettors?
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                                                                  • johnnyvegas13
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Dak is waiting to send his $100 bill back after he wins a Super Bowl like the movie draft day
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                                                                    • ThaTopMoron
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      who bet on the cowboys? come on...you can tell us

                                                                      what did you learn today?

                                                                      what we learned is that the Cowboys are close to a to win @ home v the Lions on October 13th... just kidding.

                                                                      we have to suffer through the Cowboys being on TNF and on SNFx2 between today and October 27th but at least the Cowboys have a bye on 10-20 to give us a break from having to watch Dak play

                                                                      Last edited by ThaTopMoron; 09-23-24, 01:34 AM.
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