NCAA Bubble Talk

[JAKEPEAVY21]

Speaking of the Pitt Panthers, if they don't get in, then the whole thing is a sham and travesty and they should just get rid of the NCAA tournament altogether. the panthers beat the ACC champion NC ST wolfpack not once, but twice! and also beat UVA and DOOK!......and while we are at it, the Mountain West should only be a 2 - 3 bid league MAX! their teams always get their asses kicked in the tournament (sans SDST run last year) and most of their top teams can only win at home and are absolute dog shit on the road!

Manster, think you are wrong here...let's see how the Mtn West teams fare this year

[Enkhbat]

Indiana State should have been in there.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

Indiana State should have been in there.

I like the Manster suggestion. Here would be my revision:

1) Qualify the conferences by One-bid leagues and Multi-bid leagues:
...For the bottom 8 Conferences, you don't guarantee a bid for the Reg Season champ.
...For the remaining Conferences, the Reg Season champ gets a bid and is exempt from the Conf tourney.

2) The Conf Tourney becomes a play-in Tournament for the remaining teams.

3) Expand to 80 teams. # of At-Large teams is reduced. You play 16 games on Tues/Wed to get down to 64.

How does that sound? Give merit to the Regular Season, and get the disinterested teams out of the Conf Tourn pool.

[franz555]

Ya, Manster. Flaws in the system.

I'm actually not a big believer in KenPom. I LOVE IT when I see a KenPom rating that I view as flawed.

I'm not sure they get it right. Used to be that winning the REGULAR SEASON in a Tier 2 conference was a De Facto ticket in. Indiana St was 17-3 in Conf, that has to count for something.

Who is better then KenPom ?

I use his ratings a fair bit to weight schedule strength etc. I find his gradings to be fairly accurate

Appreciate any other site you might have that's better. Thanks

[bjb7223]

This is not like college football where teams actually get left out. These schools had about 15 games to build their resume and didn’t do it. If you didn’t get in you were not good enough.

[stevenash]

Who is better then KenPom ?

Jeff Sagarin is the best.
For reasons unknown though, Sagarin didn't do NCAA hoops this year.

The Dunkel Index is excellent as well.
Jim Dunkel is the grandaddy of them all, he started all this almost 100 years ago.

The Dunkel Index | Best Sports Index, Expert Picks & Latest Rankings

Massey is just as good as Pomeroy too.

Massey Ratings - College Basketball : NCAA D1 Ratings

[franz555]

Jeff Sagarin is the best.
For reasons unknown though, Sagarin didn't do NCAA hoops this year.

The Dunkel Index is excellent as well.
Jim Dunkel is the grandaddy of them all, he started all this almost 100 years ago.

The Dunkel Index | Best Sports Index, Expert Picks & Latest Rankings

Massey is just as good as Pomeroy too.

Massey Ratings - College Basketball : NCAA D1 Ratings

I used Sagarin in the past , and still do for College Football.

Thanks for the links. Will check them out

[Da Manster!]

Manster, think you are wrong here...let's see how the Mtn West teams fare this year

Hey Jake. I would like nothing better than to see the MWC teams finally turn it around! Believe me, I'm pulling for them to have some success in the tournament. However, I'm a straight shooter and call a spade a spade. Here's a little nugget: Since 2006, MWC squads are 23-46-2 (33.3%) against the spread in the Big Dance. Just some food for thought. Take it FWIW.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

Hey Jake. I would like nothing better than to see the MWC teams finally turn it around! Believe me, I'm pulling for them to have some success in the tournament. However, I'm a straight shooter and call a spade a spade. Here's a little nugget: Since 2006, MWC squads are 23-46-2 (33.3%) against the spread in the Big Dance. Just some food for thought. Take it FWIW.

Mtn West very strong top to bottom this year. Not sure how much that stat has to do with the here and now except for maybe very recent history. Could end up with pie on my face but think that the conference will show well in the tourney this year.

[stevenash]

Mtn West very strong top to bottom this year. Not sure how much that stat has to do with the here and now except for maybe very recent history. Could end up with pie on my face but think that the conference will show well in the tourney this year.

Incredibly strong conference this year, I noticed that last month as well.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

Wow, Nevada with one of the worst chokes that i can remember in the tournament.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

The mtn west flopped, I was dead wrong...cheers manster